the thing about pakistan and im being generous here when I say: its complicated.
american drones fire missles into the country and then circle around and fire at the first responders. this is not a thing I have to deal with vis a vis the Americans
funbucket: the thing about pakistan and im being generous here when I say: its complicated.
american drones fire missles into the country and then circle around and fire at the first responders. this is not a thing I have to deal with vis a vis the Americans
Such laws are not unique to Pakistan. They are standard throughout the Islamic world. The real issue is the barbarism, insanity and oppression of Islam.
The notion that God can be blasphemed is totally ridiculous. The notion that he can get his/her "feelings" hurt by anything we do or say is a blasphemy in itself. Not that a God would care one iota.... These laws are concocted by the powers that be as they decide what might hurt Gods feelings. Purely for control and power. Man kind stands blasphemed,,,
Carl96190: Such laws are not unique to Pakistan. They are standard throughout the Islamic world. The real issue is the barbarism, insanity and oppression of Islam.
by oppression of Islam i take it you mean practiced in the name of Islam?
Dadude62: The notion that God can be blasphemed is totally ridiculous. The notion that he can get his/her "feelings" hurt by anything we do or say is a blasphemy in itself. Not that a God would care one iota.... These laws are concocted by the powers that be as they decide what might hurt Gods feelings. Purely for control and power. Man kind stands blasphemed,,,
GUZMAN1: In these cases pakistani laws are not the problem but pakistani fanatical crowds. Dangerous to be a Christian in Pakistan, or a non-Muslim, or just a moderate Muslim.
The good news is that the Imam who promoted these persecutions against Christians (which caused hundreds of refugees who have needed to flee for their lives) will be charged with blasphemy because it was he who mixed the Koran pages in the papers that the Christian girl used to light a fire in her kitchen.
Nothing new: false rumors to kill or persecute religious minorities.
She didnt burn Quran pages delibrately some fundamentalist islamicist has mixed those pages in her ordinary pages,police has arrested that fundamentalist and witness from muslims also seen him doing that.Trial is going on i hope she will be released and that man will be sentenced.
Jack68: Pakistan has many problems which i also face every day but what about the rapes,robberies and discrimination going on in the west
What about them? IN most countries in the West there is no death penalty for "blasphemy". I can burn the Quran, Bible and whatever flag I want in this country and people will just laugh at me. If I make it a large public thing I might get done for causing minor civil unrest. There is some law here for blasphemy that probably carries a typically limp wristed sentence. But I won't get the death penalty for it.
You'd do well to be a man and stop defending the indefensible and agree that this death penalty provision is wrong. You'll get more respect for that. So be a man. And stop trying to deflect the argument. It shows bad.
Entusiasmo: None of this occurs in Pakistan I suppose.
Every thing happened here but problem is that stronge people buy law and justice here and get rid off from being punished but in rich west countries such things happened there but people get punished
MADDOG69: What about them? IN most countries in the West there is no death penalty for "blasphemy". I can burn the Quran, Bible and whatever flag I want in this country and people will just laugh at me. If I make it a large public thing I might get done for causing minor civil unrest. There is some law here for blasphemy that probably carries a typically limp wristed sentence. But I won't get the death penalty for it.
You'd do well to be a man and stop defending the indefensible and agree that this death penalty provision is wrong. You'll get more respect for that. So be a man. And stop trying to deflect the argument. It shows bad.
I am not defending and i dont want a death penalty for that just trying to say that she was an innocent girl and she will get released soon.
almera03: This thread isn't about the West, it's about Pakistans actions on Blasphemy and now why a young girl has been framed it seems.
COURT HAS HEARING ABOUT THAT GIRL ON 7 AND 14 SEPTEMBER WITH OTHER MUSLIM PEOPLES WHO WERE INVOLVED,I THINK EVEDINCE ARE QUITE CLEAR THAT SHE WILL BE RELEASED
charliejapartee: eh? how does that relate to the poll question?
Being an American that was my question also...and he has proof of this? Photos documents ect ect?
Getting away from the question myself, I wonder sometimes if everyone tends to butt in to things we do not understand? Some of these things may seem backwards to us but make perfect sense to those that live there. I am speaking in general now, sure it is not cool to be locking folks up over opinions, however, that in itself is an opinion meaning; in that country those are the rules and everyone is aware of those rules good,bad or indifferent. If one does not like the rules attempt to change them at a higher level, or better yet, find a way to get out. But no where is perfect, no where....
Jack68: COURT HAS HEARING ABOUT THAT GIRL ON 7 AND 14 SEPTEMBER WITH OTHER MUSLIM PEOPLES WHO WERE INVOLVED,I THINK EVEDINCE ARE QUITE CLEAR THAT SHE WILL BE RELEASED
Still more time in prison, for a Downs Syndrome child, who should not have been sent there in begining.
Entusiasmo: Still more time in prison, for a Downs Syndrome child, who should not have been sent there in begining.
I feel sorry for her,the ex governor of punjab Mr Salman Tassir have been already killed by his body gaurd trying to change this law he was a good pakistani muslim.
Ok guys see you latter i am going to watch cricket between Australia and Pakistan i just tried to convince you that the young lady will get justice and will be released soon.
butterfly0123: She shouldn't have been put in prison in the first place, she's 12! I agree.
I agree with you but you have to release those illegal immigrants in your country who were trying to go to west EU.There are many under age person and families if you declare amnesty for them we can give them residence perimit here also
Jack68: I agree with you but you have to release those illegal immigrants in your country who were trying to go to west EU.There are many under age person and families if you declare amnesty for them we can give them residence perimit here also
Why do we have to realese them, and from where? They're free to go if they want.
Jack68: I agree with you but you have to release those illegal immigrants in your country who were trying to go to west EU.There are many under age person and families if you declare amnesty for them we can give them residence perimit here also
What do you suggest? something like a prisoner exchange? the girl in exchange for residence permits?
I said I don't know the Pakistani laws but it's true this reflects much how is a large part of its citizens.
A little girl who does not know what she does in prison can not be compared with anything you say, the problems of Pakistan and all.
And the possibility of death penalty for her!!!!
And what means these emoticons: coming from a muslim????
Jack68: Pakistan has many problems which i also face every day but what about the rapes,robberies and discrimination going on in the west
Funny you should mention that. Most of the crime in Western Europe is being committed by non-white immigrants, such as Pakis. In the USA figures published by the US Justice Department show that 85% of serious violent crime is committed by the roughly 3% of the population who fit the description of 'young black male' and most of the remaining 15% of crimes are committed by Mestizo invaders. Here in Australia the 1.5% of the population who are MIddle Eastern Muslims account for an estimated 50% of organised crime, according to the New South Wales Police Crime Intelligence Unit. Organised crime and claiming welfare are the only things at which the Middle Eastern Muslims are overachievers.
It reflects Very badly on its citizens. Blasphemy Law passed in Ireland by the Last government. Never been so ashamed to be Irish, and this is coming from a country where Our Government drove us into an IMF bailout by gaurenteeing the banks and all their bondholders which has totally crashed our economy. Religious zealots should be kept away from all governments no matter what their religion.
GUZMAN1: What do you suggest? something like a prisoner exchange? the girl in exchange for residence permits?
I said I don't know the Pakistani laws but it's true this reflects much how is a large part of its citizens.
A little girl who does not know what she does in prison can not be compared with anything you say, the problems of Pakistan and all.
And the possibility of death penalty for her!!!!
And what means these emoticons: coming from a muslim????
Due to wars in most muslim countries the number of refugees are entering into europe and the population of muslims is rapidly increasing in europe because of immigrants and those muslim immigrants produce many children.Some experts statics in europe shown concern that the number of muslim population in EU will be in majority by 2050
Carl96190: Funny you should mention that. Most of the crime in Western Europe is being committed by non-white immigrants, such as Pakis. In the USA figures published by the US Justice Department show that 85% of serious violent crime is committed by the roughly 3% of the population who fit the description of 'young black male' and most of the remaining 15% of crimes are committed by Mestizo invaders. Here in Australia the 1.5% of the population who are MIddle Eastern Muslims account for an estimated 50% of organised crime, according to the New South Wales Police Crime Intelligence Unit. Organised crime and claiming welfare are the only things at which the Middle Eastern Muslims are overachievers.
You must not forget the history how the British brought to your forefathers in Australia from prisions
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