BEST VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE U.S.A. (53)
CHOLENA: Oh my goodness, what naivety. Men like that are in it for the power and just to feed their massive egos. His only incentive is to make a better world for his children and ours? And adult human being with an IQ over 70 actually believes this?
I think you are jumping in at the tale end of a conversation and are taking that remark out of context.
"Naive" is people voting for a candidate with ZERO qualifications just because he made a few pretty promises.
I gather you are one of them.
WhatUwish4: I think you are jumping in at the tale end of a conversation and are taking that remark out of context.
"Naive" is people voting for a candidate with ZERO qualifications just because he made a few pretty promises.
I gather you are one of them.
How stupid is this? To make an assumption about who I voted for or what I am for because I called you on your lack of clear thinking. But not surprising as that lack of ability to think with any depth would lead one to make more baseless assumptions. You've got the little world you live in and can't see or understand anything beyond it."Naive" is people voting for a candidate with ZERO qualifications just because he made a few pretty promises.
I gather you are one of them.
CHOLENA, I don't have much time for twits so I'm going to step away from this little cat fight.
Good luck finding another outlet for your anger.
Good luck finding another outlet for your anger.
CHOLENA: How stupid is this? To make an assumption about who I voted for or what I am for because I called you on your lack of clear thinking. But not surprising as that lack of ability to think with any depth would lead one to make more baseless assumptions. You've got the little world you live in and can't see or understand anything beyond it.
Rumple4skin: I liked it when Ryan said something about college graduates staring up at fading Obama posters in their childhood bedrooms.
Well, this is little problem for graduates whom do a real, hard course like engineering or medicine, instead of cop-out courses like media & social science.
If you're mediocre you shouldn't be going to University at all you should be working down a mine. This is what a real Conservative should of said.
Well, this is little problem for graduates whom do a real, hard course like engineering or medicine, instead of cop-out courses like media & social science.
If you're mediocre you shouldn't be going to University at all you should be working down a mine. This is what a real Conservative should of said.
There is a enlighten European view. Send the troggs to the mines. Get them out of sight. Remember eventually the troggs rebelled. Kind of reminds me of China and 3m prisoners digging rare earth metals for iPods.
But back to the comment that "99% of politician are to bland' for Rumple4skin. Americans like bland politicians. They keep the country from breaking out into rebellion and civil war. The 1% extremist politicians would have blood in the street and bodies hanging on the light polls. Oh.....now that sounds alot like Sadam Hussien and Bashar Assad.
For those that doubt Ryan's abilities. See him at work. A 32 minute video of his presentation at the Bush Foundation on the 4% solution, taxes and economic stimulating the small business sector.
As you .....ask yourself the question. Which America better pays back the the 2t in foreign debt that owed. One with a 4% growth rate or one with a > 2% growth rate. One with a big government or one with a small and lean government......
As you .....ask yourself the question. Which America better pays back the the 2t in foreign debt that owed. One with a 4% growth rate or one with a > 2% growth rate. One with a big government or one with a small and lean government......
Here is the incumbent one!
Conrad73: Here is the incumbent one!
Over and over again he puts 
Conrad73: another one who is quite good at it!
Thank gud for the First Amendment or we'd all have our heads on the chopping block...
Let's see if R & R implement their projects on Taxes.
ttom500: For those that doubt Ryan's abilities. See him at work. A 32 minute video of his presentation at the Bush Foundation on the 4% solution, taxes and economic stimulating the small business sector.
As you .....ask yourself the question. Which America better pays back the the 2t in foreign debt that owed. One with a 4% growth rate or one with a > 2% growth rate. One with a big government or one with a small and lean government......
As you .....ask yourself the question. Which America better pays back the the 2t in foreign debt that owed. One with a 4% growth rate or one with a > 2% growth rate. One with a big government or one with a small and lean government......
It would take far more than what the Republicans have planned to obtain real growth.
Keynes once said that to owe someone a £1000 then you have a problem, but to owe someone a million then they have the problem.
However, this, and pretty much all Keynesian thinking today(which would be rejected by Keynes himself)is rendered useless by the fact that we are dependent upon those we owe money to just to survive in real terms. If America had the domestic production to ensure its own survival then it would be of little consequence that you owe money to foreigners.
A fierce program of protectionism, be it socialistic or capitalistic, is the only way of providing the nation with the self-sufficiency required to both negate the intensification of global competition and the scale of debt itself.
Rumple4skin: It would take far more than what the Republicans have planned to obtain real growth.
Keynes once said that to owe someone a £1000 then you have a problem, but to owe someone a million then they have the problem.
However, this, and pretty much all Keynesian thinking today(which would be rejected by Keynes himself)is rendered useless by the fact that we are dependent upon those we owe money to just to survive in real terms. If America had the domestic production to ensure its own survival then it would be of little consequence that you owe money to foreigners.
A fierce program of protectionism, be it socialistic or capitalistic, is the only way of providing the nation with the self-sufficiency required to both negate the intensification of global competition and the scale of debt itself.
Keynes once said that to owe someone a £1000 then you have a problem, but to owe someone a million then they have the problem.
However, this, and pretty much all Keynesian thinking today(which would be rejected by Keynes himself)is rendered useless by the fact that we are dependent upon those we owe money to just to survive in real terms. If America had the domestic production to ensure its own survival then it would be of little consequence that you owe money to foreigners.
A fierce program of protectionism, be it socialistic or capitalistic, is the only way of providing the nation with the self-sufficiency required to both negate the intensification of global competition and the scale of debt itself.
Pssst...I would be willing to bet they have some very big, constructive things planned but they are not going to tip their hand and give Obama a chance to sabotage. I suspect Romney intends to shoot out the gate and assume the lead in a big way.
Just a hunch.
At least if they are smat they will. It would be a classic public relations move that would forever damage perceptions of the democratic party's abilities.
WhatUwish4: Pssst...I would be willing to bet they have some very big, constructive things planned but they are not going to tip their hand and give Obama a chance to sabotage. I suspect Romney intends to shoot out the gate and assume the lead in a big way.
Just a hunch.
Just a hunch.
You'll be relieved to know i'm not a betting Man.
But here's to your optimism.
I know...it's just a hunch. And it's what I would do in his shoes. He has the connections to make big things happen, and we all know companies have been sitting on their cash for fear of what Obama will do next. It would be fairly easy to work behind the scenes putting together a grand plan to be announced right after inaguration.
And what a statement it would make to be able to come out creating jobs on the very first day...
Then again, that's my optimistic P.R. brain churning.
And what a statement it would make to be able to come out creating jobs on the very first day...
Then again, that's my optimistic P.R. brain churning.
Rumple4skin: It would take far more than what the Republicans have planned to obtain real growth.
Keynes once said that to owe someone a £1000 then you have a problem, but to owe someone a million then they have the problem.
However, this, and pretty much all Keynesian thinking today(which would be rejected by Keynes himself)is rendered useless by the fact that we are dependent upon those we owe money to just to survive in real terms. If America had the domestic production to ensure its own survival then it would be of little consequence that you owe money to foreigners.
A fierce program of protectionism, be it socialistic or capitalistic, is the only way of providing the nation with the self-sufficiency required to both negate the intensification of global competition and the scale of debt itself.
Of Course Keynes would ask,Did I Di That?Keynes once said that to owe someone a £1000 then you have a problem, but to owe someone a million then they have the problem.
However, this, and pretty much all Keynesian thinking today(which would be rejected by Keynes himself)is rendered useless by the fact that we are dependent upon those we owe money to just to survive in real terms. If America had the domestic production to ensure its own survival then it would be of little consequence that you owe money to foreigners.
A fierce program of protectionism, be it socialistic or capitalistic, is the only way of providing the nation with the self-sufficiency required to both negate the intensification of global competition and the scale of debt itself.
Yep,Keynie,you dooded!
WhatUwish4: I know...it's just a hunch. And it's what I would do in his shoes. He has the connections to make big things happen, and we all know companies have been sitting on their cash for fear of what Obama will do next. It would be fairly easy to work behind the scenes putting together a grand plan to be announced right after inaguration.
And what a statement it would make to be able to come out creating jobs on the very first day...
Then again, that's my optimistic P.R. brain churning.
And what a statement it would make to be able to come out creating jobs on the very first day...
Then again, that's my optimistic P.R. brain churning.
Some companies do.. but actually the rest of the debt in society dwarfs the national debt and the GDP. The UK's financial debt alone acounts for over 600% of our GDP, it's little wonder I want all them all dead.
But ignore me, i'm just something of an anti-hero when it comes to P.R.
Conrad73: Of Course Keynes would ask,Did I Di That?
Yep,Keynie,you dooded!
Yep,Keynie,you dooded!
Everything comes from Keynes in one way or another, including Friedman and Mises.
It's not the fault of Keynes that his disciples are fools. I'm sure if he was alive today he'd have better ideas than anybody else.
Rumple4skin: Some companies do.. but actually the rest of the debt in society dwarfs the national debt and the GDP. The UK's financial debt alone acounts for over 600% of our GDP, it's little wonder I want all them all dead.
But ignore me, I'm just something of an anti-hero when it comes to P.R.
But ignore me, I'm just something of an anti-hero when it comes to P.R.
Bite your tongue, young man!!!
There is nothing more powerful (and beneficial) than good PR (especially when it's in my talented hands!). 
Rumple4skin: It would take far more than what the Republicans have planned to obtain real growth.
Keynes once said that to owe someone a £1000 then you have a problem, but to owe someone a million then they have the problem.
However, this, and pretty much all Keynesian thinking today(which would be rejected by Keynes himself)is rendered useless by the fact that we are dependent upon those we owe money to just to survive in real terms. If America had the domestic production to ensure its own survival then it would be of little consequence that you owe money to foreigners.
A fierce program of protectionism, be it socialistic or capitalistic, is the only way of providing the nation with the self-sufficiency required to both negate the intensification of global competition and the scale of debt itself.
Keynes once said that to owe someone a £1000 then you have a problem, but to owe someone a million then they have the problem.
However, this, and pretty much all Keynesian thinking today(which would be rejected by Keynes himself)is rendered useless by the fact that we are dependent upon those we owe money to just to survive in real terms. If America had the domestic production to ensure its own survival then it would be of little consequence that you owe money to foreigners.
A fierce program of protectionism, be it socialistic or capitalistic, is the only way of providing the nation with the self-sufficiency required to both negate the intensification of global competition and the scale of debt itself.
Let us first get the numbers right. A 4% growth per year of a 4 year Administration term is what? A total growth of 16% over the 4 years, yes? If we can agree there. Then we can do the math.
Today total US GNP amounts to $15.06t A 4% annual growth is $624b and 16% increase of that is 2.4t that Romney and Ryan wants to expand the US economy by. That is a taxable US economy of 17.46t at the end of their term.
624b increase in the GNP is also 109b in new tax revenues (35% of .5 of 624b) from business and 78b new tax revenues from individuals annually. Without raising the tax rate on either. Total new tax in the four years would equate to 748b in new tax revenue. Assuming a 50/50 split of individual to business tax. That is 748b for ? Debt repayment? For the Medicare voucher? For increase DoD spending?
I don't know how they would use the increased revenues. Agreed alone they don't cover the 16t debt. But Ryan budget to bring the government back 25% of the GNP from the 42% is the biggest piece of that fiscal puzzle.
That is 17% of todays 1.6t FEDERAl government going to debt repayment. Or is 272b annually in debt repayment. That is 1.2t knock down in four years. That is little under 1/2 of our foreign debt of around 2.5t
They are not going to knock down a 16t debt in four years. They are not saying that. Nor is Obama.
Compared to Obama's balanced solution.
He (via Bill Clinton last night) say that with a government that is consuming 11% of the countries 15t GNP, he is going to knock down the debt by 4t in 10 years. A government that has seen a 8% annual increase in his firm term. That with a government that is spending 38cent of every dollar on debt recovery. He can keep the benefits to 46m food stamp program and the 26m unemployed program running. And add a 1.6t tax based ACA health care program in 2014.
Which do you think is the more realistic plan?
Economic growth and prosperity out of the 16t debt hole or a tax based repayment of the debt with a expanding government? Were any failure of either plan means devaluation and austerity for the country? These are big decisions with no easy answers and long term consequences for the country.
Europeans say Kynesian like its it a dirty word. But the fact is Obama not been using Kynesian economic planning for the last 4 years. Were did it get us? Kynes has some stuff right on the money. You cannot discount his work on the supply side and demand side influencing price and inflation.
Obama increase in the price of gas products is a classic example of using Knyesian economic to get social change. He forces the country to go green by keeping the price of gas high, with high demand and high government taxes. So Obama knows his Kynesian economics as well. He just not use it for economic planning.
By the way...my Dad says the same about owing (L1000 or L1000000) that Kynes did. He never had a college econ course in his lifetime.
Just my opinion. I think that the answer is a compromise of the two plans. Not something that they do well in Washington. But of the two plans, I like grow and prosper better.
GreenBoots: I predict Paul Ryan as VP.
He's young and virile.
No one would vote for the other
guy who looks old and tired just like...
What was his name?... Oh yeah, McCain.
He's young and virile.
No one would vote for the other
guy who looks old and tired just like...
What was his name?... Oh yeah, McCain.
Yes, you're right: Old people shoud not run for public office. Let's just put them out to pasture. Or better yet, like in A BRAVE NEW WORLD, when they get old, looking old and tired and gray, let's just euthanize them.
ttom500: Just my opinion. I think that the answer is a compromise of the two plans. Not something that they do well in Washington. But of the two plans, I like grow and prosper better.
I'm glad your Dad said the same thing. I think people with common sense understand the economy better than the academics, at times. Some of the ideas that crashed the economy into the ground? These ideas won the Nobel Prize; it's very rare to find an intellectual who is smart.
As for Obama & Romney I really do not care what the plans are. The numbers mean nothing, being constantly revised as reality dawns upon the wild & exuberant claims of hypocrisy.
I'm far more interested to see where you are, where we all are, another four years from now. I predict a mainstream split.
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Oh my goodness, what naivety. Men like that are in it for the power and just to feed their massive egos. His only incentive is to make a better world for his children and ours? And adult human being with an IQ over 70 actually believes this?