Are you really innocent till proven guilty when you sit in a prison for years waiting on trial ? (15)
Legally in the UK you are, but I doubt it feels like you're being treated as if you're innocent.
At least you still might have hope if you're morally innocent as well.
I'm not sure what the time limit is in the UK for being imprisoned while awaiting trial. I've just googled, I'm not knowledgeable enough to not be confused, but it depends upon the offence with a maximum in the order of about a year. If the trial has not been started by then, the accused is automatically entitled to bail.
At least you still might have hope if you're morally innocent as well.
I'm not sure what the time limit is in the UK for being imprisoned while awaiting trial. I've just googled, I'm not knowledgeable enough to not be confused, but it depends upon the offence with a maximum in the order of about a year. If the trial has not been started by then, the accused is automatically entitled to bail.
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MrRick77: Are you really innocent till proven guilty when you sit in a prison for years waiting on trial ?
In many cases, when the trial finally comes up and the defendant is found or pleads guilty, the punishment is TIME SERVED.
It's not punishment if the defendant is found not guilty.
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Dadude62: In many cases, when the trial finally comes up and the defendant is found or pleads guilty, the punishment is TIME SERVED.
It's not punishment if the defendant is found not guilty.
It's not punishment if the defendant is found not guilty.
It might not be labelled 'punishment', but it is in effect the same as time served.
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MrRick77: Are you really innocent till proven guilty when you sit in a prison for years waiting on trial ?
Well, unfortunately in this country, everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law!!
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jac379: Legally in the UK you are, but I doubt it feels like you're being treated as if you're innocent.
At least you still might have hope if you're morally innocent as well.
I'm not sure what the time limit is in the UK for being imprisoned while awaiting trial. I've just googled, I'm not knowledgeable enough to not be confused, but it depends upon the offence with a maximum in the order of about a year. If the trial has not been started by then, the accused is automatically entitled to bail.
jacs after 9/ 11 Blair brought in legislation that allows the home secretary to detain people considered a threat to the state some have been in Belmarsh Prison for more then a decadeAt least you still might have hope if you're morally innocent as well.
I'm not sure what the time limit is in the UK for being imprisoned while awaiting trial. I've just googled, I'm not knowledgeable enough to not be confused, but it depends upon the offence with a maximum in the order of about a year. If the trial has not been started by then, the accused is automatically entitled to bail.
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GoDaniel: Well, unfortunately in this country, everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law!!
Law and Justice so oft confused.
Or we could a la witch trial;
If he drowns he's innocent
If he floats, drown him
or trial by social media
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Dadude62: In many cases, when the trial finally comes up and the defendant is found or pleads guilty, the punishment is TIME SERVED.
It's not punishment if the defendant is found not guilty.
It's not punishment if the defendant is found not guilty.
How can being in prison not be a punishment?
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Tomcats2: jacs after 9/ 11 Blair brought in legislation that allows the home secretary to detain people considered a threat to the state some have been in Belmarsh Prison for more then a decade
You're kidding me?
Off to google...
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jac379: You're kidding me?
Off to google...
im almost certain unless new legislation has been passed since last year Reprieve had it on their website last year i could b wrongOff to google...
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GoDaniel: Well, unfortunately in this country, everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law!!
And what would be unfortunate about that? I don't find the idea of posthumous proven innocence appealing and rather untimely.
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Tomcats2: thanks for that yeah ive wondered that we could charge him for inciting racial and religous hatred and i bet if it was a christian fundaklmentalist he would have been charged by now, we really neeed to extradite him to set an example that religous intolerance will not be excepted in the Uk
Extradite him for what, Tom?
He hasn't been charged with anything.
Not even for inciting racial, or religious hatred.
Given the men detained without charge for prolonged periods appear to be all Islamic, or of Eastern origin and given the media reporting which provides no evidence for its assumed hostility, I think it might be us Brits who are guilty of blatantly inciting racial and religious hatred.
A bit of a sticky situation that, eh?
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jac379: Extradite him for what, Tom?
He hasn't been charged with anything.
Not even for inciting racial, or religious hatred.
Given the men detained without charge for prolonged periods appear to be all Islamic, or of Eastern origin and given the media reporting which provides no evidence for its assumed hostility, I think it might be us Brits who are guilty of blatantly inciting racial and religious hatred.
A bit of a sticky situation that, eh?
Jordan want him for terrorist charges over thereHe hasn't been charged with anything.
Not even for inciting racial, or religious hatred.
Given the men detained without charge for prolonged periods appear to be all Islamic, or of Eastern origin and given the media reporting which provides no evidence for its assumed hostility, I think it might be us Brits who are guilty of blatantly inciting racial and religious hatred.
A bit of a sticky situation that, eh?
and yes we do incite racial hatred over here you just have to look at the so called English defence League, but unlike Qutada they have been charged for it guess wer going to have to disagree on this one jac
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Tomcats2: yeah you you are right and actually goes against my beliefs which you are are aware of but Jordainan gov have given assurance that torture evidence will not be used and thata neautral government will make sure that it is not used a fornot being a democraccy The uk is not we never voted into power the Con lib government but they are acting like they have a mandate to cut and slash and cause hardship for people who did not cause the financial meltdown is the demnocracy?
as i said well have to disagreee on this my friend
as i said well have to disagreee on this my friend
This is true, we're not a true democracy.
And its showing.
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MrRick77: Are you really innocent till proven guilty when you sit in a prison for years waiting on trial ?
sounds more like guilty until proven innocent!!!
we should be very certain that ppl are guilty if were to take away their freedom...but every system has its flaws/mistakes and occasionally an innocent will suffer as a result.
on the other hand...can we take the risk of letting violent criminals walk the streets while awaiting trial??? many cases where these kind were out on bail only to commit even worse crimes while out and about!!!
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Glatlol: How can being in prison not be a punishment?
It's not considered punishment by the court, if found not guilty.
Of course it is punishment,,,
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