Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it? (166)

Nov 26, 2013 8:01 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Leo_7: my friend ,not a good idea to flood the thread with offtopic videos.i m not going to say anything cos i have no idea about that conflict and i need more documantation from both sides to give my opinion.i cannot make a judgment on something based on some youtube clips.thank u.
if u post something about Iranian nuke deals that would be on topic.
You have stated your opinion in other threads,that the Armenian genoside, never happened.-doh grin
Nov 26, 2013 8:06 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
chris27292729: You have stated your opinion in other threads,that the Armenian genoside, never happened.-
soooooo?isnt that my right to dont believe in something that more than half of the world dont accept too?dunno
Nov 26, 2013 8:15 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
Leo_7: ur own gov havent recognized it too and u r accusing me.omg So ur gov is small and dont care.Do u think i m bigger than ur gov,or u think i should care? man thank u so much,u made me laugh alot today with ur nonsences.

Our own government has never been asked to recognise it. You're behaving like a child now. I guarantee, that if someone tabled a motion of recognition in front of our parliament, it would be passed by lunchtime. But no one has. Northern Ireland has actually, though. And since when do I become the Irish Parliament? Has Andorra passed it? Has Denmark? Nah. Cos we're small countries. Neither has anyone in Africa for example.

But so have the bigger countries. The ones that matter.

And as Erdogan brings Turkey to the abyss, and as Israel gets closer to saying "Bad Turkey", you'll see it become a bigger issue.

Oh and I don't believe for one second that you actually had any laugh. This brings no joy to you. You're know that if you admitted it, you're own government would come around and arrest you. Like they do to their own citizens. Plant drugs on them and arrest them for 'Hooliganism'. If you admitted it on a public forum with your picture up you would most likely loose your job and be arrested. Because that's what they do.
Nov 26, 2013 8:30 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
MADDOG69: Our own government has never been asked to recognise it. You're behaving like a child now. I guarantee, that if someone tabled a motion of recognition in front of our parliament, it would be passed by lunchtime. But no one has. Northern Ireland has actually, though. And since when do I become the Irish Parliament? Has Andorra passed it? Has Denmark? Nah. Cos we're small countries. Neither has anyone in Africa for example.

But so have the bigger countries. The ones that matter.

And as Erdogan brings Turkey to the abyss, and as Israel gets closer to saying "Bad Turkey", you'll see it become a bigger issue.

Oh and I don't believe for one second that you actually had any laugh. This brings no joy to you. You're know that if you admitted it, you're own government would come around and arrest you. Like they do to their own citizens. Plant drugs on them and arrest them for 'Hooliganism'. If you admitted it on a public forum with your picture up you would most likely loose your job and be arrested. Because that's what they do.
u see i dont care about armenians and about their history.Dont ask me about them cos its not intersting to me.Go force ur goverment or others.but not me.As i said i dont eat what u give me.in the future when all archives opened if there going to be enough facts to call it a gen.and whole world accept as they did about Holocaust then i ll recognize it too.but for now no one has right to push their opinions to others throats.so u r.talk to hand
Nov 26, 2013 8:37 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
chris27292729: The government has officially recognized 2 genosides,The Armenian and the Greek one on the Black Sea,so called Pontic one.- Both happened the same time 1915-1923.

I don't believe Ireland has recognised the Pontic one either.. but... that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.... just means that no one asked for it to be recognised. beer
Nov 26, 2013 9:57 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
By the way We are going to employ 1000 Greek doctors to work in Turkey.

There s a lack of Practitioners right now in Turkey.
Nov 26, 2013 10:15 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
lovemedofr
lovemedofrlovemedofrbeautiful place, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France2 Threads 1,224 Posts
Careful then !!!!!!!!!!!!!! grin grin laugh
Nov 26, 2013 10:18 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
lovemedofr
lovemedofrlovemedofrbeautiful place, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France2 Threads 1,224 Posts
it was for the greek doctors in Turkey wink tongue laugh
Nov 26, 2013 10:20 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin: By the way We are going to employ 1000 Greek doctors to work in Turkey.

Gonna be a lot of accidental medical problems in Turkey then. hole
Nov 26, 2013 10:23 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
lovemedofr: it was for the greek doctors in Turkey



Merci mademoiselle.Pour nous dir.
Nov 26, 2013 10:25 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
"But i am talkin about not the guided Historians.Real Historians as this guy.



Let the Historians decide what has happened."


Do you expect me to go to a Serbian Nationalist website to find out about Kosovo? So why would I go to a Holocaust-deny website (http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/) to find out about that?

I don't go to 'stormfront' to find out about the Jewish Holocaust either. laugh
Nov 26, 2013 10:43 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
MADDOG69: "But i am talkin about not the guided Historians.Real Historians as this guy.
the Historians decide what has happened."

Do you expect me to go to a Serbian Nationalist website to find out about Kosovo? So why would I go to a Holocaust-deny website (http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/) to find out about that?

I don't go to 'stormfront' to find out about the Jewish Holocaust either.



no i mean the historian who gives information there is an American.
So he can t be guided. You can google about his view about the case.
Nov 26, 2013 11:47 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin: no i mean the historian who gives information there is an American.
So he can t be guided. You can google about his view about the case.

Anyway. You're an interesting guy. I'd like you to explain about your views that Palestine and the Greater Levant are should be better off under the Stewardship of Ankara again. I remember you mentioned similar before, that the Arabs were better off there under that system.
Nov 26, 2013 12:50 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
MADDOG69: Anyway. You're an interesting guy. I'd like you to explain about your views that Palestine and the Greater Levant are should be better off under the Stewardship of Ankara again. I remember you mentioned similar before, that the Arabs were better off there under that system.


Well Maddog,

I think it all started by we losing the territories and English taking em.By supporting uprises and stuff.

So one Ottoman Corporal used to collect the taxes and obtain security in the area so called Israel now.

By Balfour declaration the English brought the mass Jews there.

I mean Ottoman don t really care what people believe in or what language they speak.

But controlling so great land brings some diffculties.As employing locals who may try to turn the things in their favour.

Kemal Ataturk was a very experienced guy about all those.Having been in all battlefields of 1st world war,seen the equipments and techniques used by all nations involved.He was a brilliant guy.

Not like the Young Turks who sees Arabs Greeks Armenians as low people.

To me i enjoy chatting with em.In Baghdad,Cairo,Kabul,Sarajevo and Zenica,Split,Sibenik i felt like home.

With these people we don t only share religion.We share a something we can not put it in words.

A taliban looked at my face in helmand province from 50 meters and asked me Turkiye?I said yes.he left with his motorcycyle.

Where they d cut throats i go for lunch with a full plate of goat meat.

We are Turkish so we are:
Bosnian,Greek,Azerbaijani,Arab,Afghani,Armenian,Kurd,bangladeshi,Burman.

We got a way of communicating with these people.Where ever we go.

They will greet us.That s what i ve seen in the places i ve been.
Nov 26, 2013 1:04 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
lovemedofr
lovemedofrlovemedofrbeautiful place, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France2 Threads 1,224 Posts
Nasilsin Canim ? wave
Nov 26, 2013 1:08 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
lovemedofr: Nasilsin Canim ?


tesekkürler Canim.Sen nasilsin?merci ma cherrie comment va tu?kiss
Nov 26, 2013 1:09 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
lovemedofr
lovemedofrlovemedofrbeautiful place, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France2 Threads 1,224 Posts
Cok iyiyim tesekkürlers kiss
Nov 26, 2013 3:07 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin: Conrad, what goes around comes around.

They are the ones who cut the fingers of local carpet wowers that they can t compete with English machinery cheap carpet.

So may be this time that finger will go up that butt you re mentioning.

Me thinks that the Subjects of the Ottoman "Empire" were simply fed up with Turkish Rule!
Thus the WHUPPING!
And no Erdogan will be able to put it back together again!
Nov 26, 2013 3:44 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
Conrad73: Me thinks that the Subjects of the Ottoman "Empire" were simply fed up with Turkish Rule!
Thus the WHUPPING!
And no Erdogan will be able to put it back together again!


Nobody s trying to put soemthing together.It s gonna happen by nature.Tiem will tell.

I wish from Holy God that Gives you many more years to live so that you ll witness.
Nov 26, 2013 7:39 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
organicfeelin: By Balfour declaration the English brought the mass Jews there.


In defense of the British on this point, they didn't actually bring the Jews to Palestine, Zionists organizations brought most of the Jews to Palestine in direct defiance of the British who were trying to keep them out. And they also brought the arms and explosives and launched the terror campaign to drive out the British.

Nor did the Balfour declaration give any land whatsoever to the Jews. The Zionists stole the land by a violent terror campaign.

It is true however that the British didn't try very hard to stop them from doing so.

Here's the whole Balfour Declaration. See for yourself.

It's just a note saying that the British like the idea of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. It certainly didn't give any land to anybody and it even insisted that the rights of the Palestinians should not be infringed.




Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours,

Arthur James Balfour
Nov 27, 2013 10:11 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
shiraz55: I read all your posts.You are so knowledgeable of what's going on in middle east.This agreement is good for both parts(American,Iranian people) .Israeilian zionist and Saudi Arabia are a real loser.we should remember that 300/000 persian jews are living in Israeil.many jewish people from inside are against with netanyahu policies
many people here are not aware of political games
hope our regime collapse soon and people of Iran get ride of these religious nutters.
This is a gist of persia 2500 years ago
""Cyrus the Great's - Declaration of Rights""

Why, thank you, Mr. Shiraz. tip hat

I know there are a lot of people in Iran that consider some of the traits of your theocracy as very much an Arab thing... very much contradictory to the old Persian way of things when Zoroastrian walked and the centuries after.
Nov 27, 2013 11:08 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
IIRC even Stalin set up the Jewish Autonomous area in the middle of no where, with he same implied message.
Nov 27, 2013 11:08 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
MADDOG69: IIRC even Stalin set up the Jewish Autonomous area in the middle of no where, with he same implied message.


Nov 27, 2013 11:22 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
MADDOG69: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

And Stalin,of course had a propensity of "resettling" Ethnicities as far away from Moscow as possible,at the slightest "Offense"!
Nov 27, 2013 11:23 AM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
Conrad73: And Stalin,of course had a propensity of "resettling" Ethnicities as far away from Moscow as possible,at the slightest "Offense"!

and those were the "Lucky" ones!
Nov 27, 2013 12:05 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
MADDOG69: Ahhh, but the original land purchases were legitimately bought by outside Jewish money from Arab and Ottoman landowners.


It depends on how you define the word "legitimately".

The Ottoman Turks were invaders in Palestine.
Under the terms of the Turkish surrender in WW1 all Palestinian land belonged to the people of Palestine not to Ottomans unless they actually stayed in Palestine to live there.

The land titles bought by Zionists from former Ottoman landowners were no more valid than Confederate money after the US civil war.

And even if they had been valid. Purchased land only accounted for about 5% of the land of Palestine that the Zionists occupied. The rest was stolen by force.

That's why the Zionists always insist on an eternal birthright to the land. They didn't buy it. They stole it. So they have to claim that it was somehow theirs already.
Nov 27, 2013 12:21 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
RayfromUSA: It depends on how you define the word "legitimately".

The Ottoman Turks were invaders in Palestine.
Under the terms of the Turkish surrender in WW1 all Palestinian land belonged to the people of Palestine not to Ottomans unless they actually stayed in Palestine to live there.

The land titles bought by Zionists from former Ottoman landowners were no more valid than Confederate money after the US civil war.

And even if they had been valid. Purchased land only accounted for about 5% of the land of Palestine that the Zionists occupied. The rest was stolen by force.

That's why the Zionists always insist on an eternal birthright to the land. They didn't buy it. They stole it. So they have to claim that it was somehow theirs already.

Rassinier would be proud of you,Ray!
Nov 27, 2013 12:46 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
RayfromUSA: It depends on how you define the word "legitimately".

The Ottoman Turks were invaders in Palestine.
Under the terms of the Turkish surrender in WW1 all Palestinian land belonged to the people of Palestine not to Ottomans unless they actually stayed in Palestine to live there.

The land titles bought by Zionists from former Ottoman landowners were no more valid than Confederate money after the US civil war.

And even if they had been valid. Purchased land only accounted for about 5% of the land of Palestine that the Zionists occupied. The rest was stolen by force.

That's why the Zionists always insist on an eternal birthright to the land. They didn't buy it. They stole it. So they have to claim that it was somehow theirs already.



Ray,

We are the Good Guys They are the bad guys.

I also would like to know What happens to us in the Armageddon?

Do we stand and watch?

Are we involved?

I am askin you because you christians know better this kinda things.

Except the secret Jew Conrad:))
Nov 27, 2013 12:50 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin: Ray,

We are the Good Guys They are the bad guys.

I also would like to know What happens to us in the Armageddon?

Do we stand and watch?

Are we involved?

I am askin you because you christians know better this kinda things.

Except the secret Jew Conrad:))

Well,Old Son,you have just lost your Argument!comfort comfort comfort
As for the Good Guys! LMAO
Nov 27, 2013 12:52 PM CST Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
Conrad73: Well,Old Son,you have just lost your Argument!
As for the Good Guys! LMAO


I am just kidding Uncle.I got respect for elderly people.

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