Nuclear deal with Iran.good deal or a bad deal?Why Israel is'nt happy with it? (166)
Conrad73: Really doesn't matter what they call me,as long as they don't call me late for Supper!
I am glad you re not pissed Uncle.I respect you.You know too much.
You could be''The Man who Knew Too much''
whereforeartthou: It has been saying that for quite a long time;
"Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago.
1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon.
1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV.
1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000.
1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.
"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." Joseph Goebbels
"Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago.
1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon.
1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV.
1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000.
1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.
"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." Joseph Goebbels
Yep,better remember those words of Herr Göbbels!
Seems you like his methods!
RayfromUSA: The word "fundamentalist" should be reserved for people who hold to the basic fundamental precepts of a religion. The people you're speaking about here are certainly not "fundamentalists" in that sense.
The dogma you speak of here is "Dispensationalism" and there's really nothing "fundamental" about it. It's a heresy that has invaded Christianity in the US, with the help of Jewish Zionism.
Essentially, dispensationalism has invaded and perverted American Christianity in the same way that Phariseeism invaded and perverted the original Abrahamic religion of Palestine.
It's no accident that the most extreme wackos of Christianity refer to themselves as Christian Zionists. That's their ideological bloodline.
The dogma you speak of here is "Dispensationalism" and there's really nothing "fundamental" about it. It's a heresy that has invaded Christianity in the US, with the help of Jewish Zionism.
Essentially, dispensationalism has invaded and perverted American Christianity in the same way that Phariseeism invaded and perverted the original Abrahamic religion of Palestine.
It's no accident that the most extreme wackos of Christianity refer to themselves as Christian Zionists. That's their ideological bloodline.
and,of course,it is all the Fault of those Joos,ain't it?
Even those Christian Fundies are,hmm?
organicfeelin: Ray,
We are the Good Guys They are the bad guys.
I also would like to know What happens to us in the Armageddon?
Do we stand and watch?
Are we involved?
I am askin you because you christians know better this kinda things.
Except the secret Jew Conrad:))
We are the Good Guys They are the bad guys.
I also would like to know What happens to us in the Armageddon?
Do we stand and watch?
Are we involved?
I am askin you because you christians know better this kinda things.
Except the secret Jew Conrad:))
Those who think they are the good guys are the worst of all.
As for what happens at Armageddon, I dunno, the description is pretty vague. I have no plans to get involved.
RayfromUSA: Those who think they are the good guys are the worst of all.
As for what happens at Armageddon, I dunno, the description is pretty vague. I have no plans to get involved.
As for what happens at Armageddon, I dunno, the description is pretty vague. I have no plans to get involved.
Ray you are somekind of person like those French speaking terrorist in an American movie trying to blow up soemthing in USA and viewers never understand why you wanna do such thing.
Do you know what i am sayin?
I don t understand your motive.
organicfeelin: Ray you are somekind of person like those French speaking terrorist in an American movie trying to blow up soemthing in USA and viewers never understand why you wanna do such thing.
Do you know what i am sayin?
I don t understand your motive.
Do you know what i am sayin?
I don t understand your motive.
You got me totally wrong.
I don't wanna blow anything up.
That's an American tradition that doesn't interest me.
That's why they have over 7000 nukes.
They like bombing people.
Just as long as the others can't bomb them back.
Can you understand their motives?
whereforeartthou: "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." Joseph Goebbels
Yes. When official lies are so omni-present, and so often reinforced, even if the individual knows they are lies, it just becomes a matter of convenience to go with the flow and accept the delusion.
And over time it becomes second nature to suspend logic and adhere to the lie.. particularly when there is an element of pride or other gratification associated with the delusion. It's easy to convince people that they are superior to others.. more intelligent, more just, more industrious, more cultured, etc etc.
People enjoy believing such lies.
And then, if such lies become the basis for atrocities, there is also a negative reinforcement. As long as one believes the lies the atrocity was justified. But if one doubts the lie there is intense guilt and shame.
That's how entire populations get locked into mass delusion that lead to war and death for millions. And all for the benefit of a few rich manipulators who profit from it all.
RayfromUSA:
People enjoy believing such lies.
People enjoy believing such lies.
Ray, you said recently that Bali was done with a mini-nuke. How can anyone take that seriously?
RayfromUSA: Yes. When official lies are so omni-present, and so often reinforced, even if the individual knows they are lies, it just becomes a matter of convenience to go with the flow and accept the delusion.
And over time it becomes second nature to suspend logic and adhere to the lie.. particularly when there is an element of pride or other gratification associated with the delusion. It's easy to convince people that they are superior to others.. more intelligent, more just, more industrious, more cultured, etc etc.
People enjoy believing such lies.
And then, if such lies become the basis for atrocities, there is also a negative reinforcement. As long as one believes the lies the atrocity was justified. But if one doubts the lie there is intense guilt and shame.
That's how entire populations get locked into mass delusion that lead to war and death for millions. And all for the benefit of a few rich manipulators who profit from it all.
And over time it becomes second nature to suspend logic and adhere to the lie.. particularly when there is an element of pride or other gratification associated with the delusion. It's easy to convince people that they are superior to others.. more intelligent, more just, more industrious, more cultured, etc etc.
People enjoy believing such lies.
And then, if such lies become the basis for atrocities, there is also a negative reinforcement. As long as one believes the lies the atrocity was justified. But if one doubts the lie there is intense guilt and shame.
That's how entire populations get locked into mass delusion that lead to war and death for millions. And all for the benefit of a few rich manipulators who profit from it all.
So,how come you and your new Friend are using those very Tactics you so decry?
Conrad73: Maniacs tried and are succeeding of getting hold of Nuclear Devices!
Yep, Obummer's got 7000 of 'em.
RayfromUSA: Yep, Obummer's got 7000 of 'em.
yes agree .and russia got many too.And they r alcoholics.There r more chance that russians get drunk and throw a nuke somewhere than Iranians get crazy to do so.
Talks are going to be extended for months. It's not something celebrated by the countries worried by nuclear proliferation in Middle Eastern.
Wouldn't be surprised if Netanyahu tried to bomb Iran now that the deal hasn't happened.
America would have to back him if he did.
America would have to back him if he did.
Leo_7: me love you?As a person or as a country? well as a person,i m not into men and as a country,i dont like the mullah regime.I just hope one day Iran will get rid of sharia laws and a mullah regime to become a democratic state.
Yeah the old good Scia of Persia
fleurdelis16: Imagine yourself to live in the territory where only your enemies live and you really feel threaten ... even one of the neighbor posses nuclear weapon... how would you feel?
Sorry Leo, I absolutely understand Israel and its worries as for their life and daily existence in the Middle East!
I am against the fact any of brainwashed group of world population can have nuclear weapon indeed!
Sorry Leo, I absolutely understand Israel and its worries as for their life and daily existence in the Middle East!
I am against the fact any of brainwashed group of world population can have nuclear weapon indeed!
But is it ok for other countries like: USA, France, UK, etc.....to have nuclear weapons ?
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It has been saying that for quite a long time;
"Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago.
1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon.
1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV.
1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000.
1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.
"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." Joseph Goebbels