Fraya: Yes. Post 93 where Tiny says she wants men to have more priviledges because of their role as protectors. I think thats a very brave statement in this climate.
y3ah im just gonna go ahead with what i believe you meant by it
Fraya: Your initial "coming out" post of a few pages back was brave. I admire that. The content I do not agree with. Bravo all the same
Not agree sounds odd, Fraya, not able to relate more like it maybe?
As for this thread - I share certain vies with the OP, alas due to different experiences no doubt, still some of the conclusions are the same. Why should we not be allowed to exchange about this subject? I spent a lot of time turning this subject over in my mind, others might rather prefer to discuss their favourite soap or even legs, over..under..positioned... and when they do so I tend to just shrug and accept that to them such matters, as other things matter to me.
I do not voice my views to attract random 'screwing' - I rather take my chances with that time machine having some screws loose
Fraya: This one: "Did I read this correctly? You are desperate for a protective patriarch? I am sincerely trying to understand."
Mmmm Do you see me as a protector?
You are touching on quite serious business there, all jokig aside for a moment.
I have found in today's world, that I have crossed path with far more powerful females than males. Many of them very capable protectors, and even little lost I have risen rather than males when a situation of injustice arose.
Are you female Fraya? Tell me you are not and make my day
IWILLTEASEYOU: sure urself and fraya would love that
Can I hand in a petitition for her to grow them please? Those things look uncomfortable in pants (and that's just so selfish of me, I know, sozzy Fraya!!!!!!!! *begs for forgiveness (but still writes the petitition )*
tinyfangs: You are touching on quite serious business there, all jokig aside for a moment.
I have found in today's world, that I have crossed path with far more powerful females than males. Many of them very capable protectors, and even little lost I have risen rather than males when a situation of injustice arose.
Are you female Fraya? Tell me you are not and make my day
tinyfangs: Can I hand in a petitition for her to grow them please? Those things look uncomfortable in pants (and that's just so selfish of me, I know, sozzy Fraya!!!!!!!! *begs for forgiveness (but still writes the petitition )*
tinyfangs: You are touching on quite serious business there, all jokig aside for a moment.
I have found in today's world, that I have crossed path with far more powerful females than males. Many of them very capable protectors, and even little lost I have risen rather than males when a situation of injustice arose.
Are you female Fraya? Tell me you are not and make my day
I'm a woman Tiny. I have spent most of my life as protector. I wonder if your desire for the big strong fire starter is more a romantic wish than a need?
LadyBlackAdder: I imagine that "patriarchy" would represent a kindly, fatherly authority to you, where a dominant male would protect his family by dealing with any exigencies the world would throw at them. And so it would be in an ideal world. However, the world is not ideal and neither the patriarch nor the matriarch can be guaranteed to always have our best interests in mind so equality of leadership is a better option and laws made to protect the vulnerable, both male and female. However, it's difficult to make laws that can take all situations into consideration and, therefore, they are subject to manipulation by unscrupulous people.
*wonders if there are unscrupulous people out there.....surely not!!
LadyBlackAdder: I imagine that "patriarchy" would represent a kindly, fatherly authority to you, where a dominant male would protect his family by dealing with any exigencies the world would throw at them. And so it would be in an ideal world. However, the world is not ideal and neither the patriarch nor the matriarch can be guaranteed to always have our best interests in mind so equality of leadership is a better option and laws made to protect the vulnerable, both male and female. However, it's difficult to make laws that can take all situations into consideration and, therefore, they are subject to manipulation by unscrupulous people.
The problem with our law system is that it too is influenced by interest, and it is reflecting the interests of those who rule our societies. Law making is a monopoly, as is basically all decision making now in regards to our lifes, and we in truth have little say in any of it.
The patriarchy you describe is one I have grown up in, and it was a very good and beneficial set-up for all of us in that family involved, but yes, it does need the right type of male for it, and I was luckyo(or doomed?) to have experienced the presence of one. No doubt many of my views are influenced by that experience, while same time also having experienced the various 'set-ups' of other families, and none seemed to work as well as the one with a strong protective male in the lead. Maybe if others could have access to this my experience, they would better understand, as I have found what I experienced to have grown very very rare.
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