Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism (204)

Jan 2, 2014 8:18 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
MADDOG69: 5'9" for men my age is about average in this country.
Well, then. Hardly surprising I'm looking up at my two sons then, is it?
Jan 2, 2014 8:18 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
tinyfangs: I would really just like to put forward the question to women - if you want a taller male - why?

Is it because we like to look up to our males? Because we wish to have them towering over us as it makes us feel all warm inside and ready to submit to them? What other reason could it be? And I hear this specific requirement of the male being taller a lot from women.

But if we do wish to look up to our males physically, does this not entale that we overall wish to look up to them? That we want to know they are strong, capable, ready to protect us...

How can we want that if same time we want to be all 'equal'? Should that not mean we want males just same height as us? Or maybe shouldn't care what height they have compared to us, as we are all so equal.. how can something as silly as taller or shorter even cross our minds? o.O

It just puzzles me somehow..
Whats puzeling is the fact of what women are genitcally made up of and what drives them and then how they have been brainwshed by the media to believe, its a conflict of emotions, they have been told they don't need men but when something breaks they do, they have a choice between career and family and theres confusion of what to do, we all have inherited drive or goals in our genes usualy to pass it on and when people are told the opposite thats what causes the confusion.
Jan 2, 2014 8:23 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
tinyfangs
tinyfangstinyfangsunder a rock, Leitrim Ireland26 Threads 4 Polls 1,034 Posts
LadyBlackAdder: Personally, I don't care what height a man is. I had a wonderful time with a man the very same height as myself. I have also dated one man who was shorter but an absolute darling. However, I have found that most men who ask me out are actually taller than me but that isn't strange since I am the average height for a woman in Ireland at 5'4" and the average height for a man is 5'7".

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I believe that with you, but how many females out there clearly do state they want a male taller?
And what if a male would be a head shorter? Would it take some consideration? More consideration than if the same male would be a head taller?

btw, I clearly want a male taller than me, I wish to look up physically, same as I long to look up to my male in other regards too (height actually being the least important)
Jan 2, 2014 8:28 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
tinyfangs: I believe that with you, but how many females out there clearly do state they want a male taller?
And what if a male would be a head shorter? Would it take some consideration? More consideration than if the same male would be a head taller?

btw, I clearly want a male taller than me, I wish to look up physically, same as I long to look up to my male in other regards too (height actually being the least important)
I understand what you mean about looking up at your mate in other regards but I think that means feeling respect for him. I also want to have him respect me so again there has to be some kind of equality there, at least in the way we perceive each other.
Jan 2, 2014 8:29 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
So divorce is keeping families together and getting married isent, so by not getting married keeps a family together as man and wife.All these man desert estates are the way forward I assume a country of no marriage and half families, love wears of as you know and thats when the design of marriage came into it to keep a solid foundation in society. I wonder would so many women divorce desert their families if they dident get rewarded for marriage failure.
Jan 2, 2014 8:33 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
modermen: So divorce is keeping families together and getting married isent, so by not getting married keeps a family together as man and wife.All these man desert estates are the way forward I assume a country of no marriage and half families, love wears of as you know and thats when the design of marriage came into it to keep a solid foundation in society. I wonder would so many women divorce desert their families if they dident get rewarded for marriage failure.
Do you regard the end of a marriage as a failure for the woman? Or would you agree that it's a mutual failure for both the man and the woman?

Legalities never made a marriage work nor ever kept a family together happily.
Jan 2, 2014 8:41 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
LadyBlackAdder: Do you regard the end of a marriage as a failure for the woman? Or would you agree that it's a mutual failure for both the man and the woman?

Legalities never made a marriage work nor ever kept a family together happily.
If a woman deserts her family as hapens in 70% per cent of the cases and she gets half a farm or more or even a busines {and yes some men do the same I will admit}just for signing her name and taking a vow or oath for richer or poorer til death do us part and she benifits massivley and theres no denying that it is the man who suffers and not only the man its the kids who get traumatised, you see this is where you are wrong its the legalities which are causing or encouraging the break up because in years gone by they had to stick it out, if you think todays society with all these marriage failures and man deserts are the way forward in todays world society then jazus were all in trouble.
Jan 2, 2014 8:43 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
tinyfangs
tinyfangstinyfangsunder a rock, Leitrim Ireland26 Threads 4 Polls 1,034 Posts
LadyBlackAdder: I understand what you mean about looking up at your mate in other regards but I think that means feeling respect for him. I also want to have him respect me so again there has to be some kind of equality there, at least in the way we perceive each other.

Fully agreed, but if we have certain requirements for respecting our males (and it seems that a lot of these have to do with how we have developed evolutionary), I'd say it makes fair sense our males will have their requirements the same, and we should aim to fulfill them too.

What could those requirements be that males need fulfilled from us? (and I am not talking cup size here *rolls eyes already in advance* :P)
Jan 2, 2014 8:45 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
sirLarryIII
sirLarryIIIsirLarryIIIClump, Kildare Ireland72 Threads 9 Polls 2,016 Posts
LadyBlackAdder: Do you regard the end of a marriage as a failure for the woman? Or would you agree that it's a mutual failure for both the man and the woman?

Legalities never made a marriage work nor ever kept a family together happily.


Love the way you conveniently veared away from Moderman's point in your response.Go girlfriend golaugh
Jan 2, 2014 8:45 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
tinyfangs: Fully agreed, but if we have certain requirements for respecting our males (and it seems that a lot of these have to do with how we have developed evolutionary), I'd say it makes fair sense our males will have their requirements the same, and we should aim to fulfill them too.

What could those requirements be that males need fulfilled from us? (and I am not talking cup size here *rolls eyes already in advance* :P)
Well if your cup size is small Tiny fangs I will have to stop talking to youlaugh
Jan 2, 2014 8:56 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
tinyfangs
tinyfangstinyfangsunder a rock, Leitrim Ireland26 Threads 4 Polls 1,034 Posts
modermen: Well if your cup size is small Tiny fangs I will have to stop talking to you

If that was an attempt to get measurements, I shall first ask you to show me you can make fire with sticks batting laugh hug
Jan 2, 2014 9:01 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
modermen: If a woman deserts her family as hapens in 70% per cent of the cases and she gets half a farm or more or even a busines {and yes some men do the same I will admit}just for signing her name and taking a vow or oath for richer or poorer til death do us part and she benifits massivley and theres no denying that it is the man who suffers and not only the man its the kids who get traumatised, you see this is where you are wrong its the legalities which are causing or encouraging the break up because in years gone by they had to stick it out, if you think todays society with all these marriage failures and man deserts are the way forward in todays world society then jazus were all in trouble.
I don't know where you get the statistic of 70% of women deserting their families. Are you mixing it up with the fact that it is reported that more women instigate separation than men? That doesn't mean they desert their families. In the main, the women take the children with them or they have the man move out of the family home. Not in all cases though. You will, no doubt, be pleased to discover that in a lot of cases now, the men are managing to hide a lot of their assets in legalities too. Three of my friends husbands went from successful businessmen to humble P.A.Y.E. workers during the period of their separations. Strangely enough their businesses still exist, they just don't officially own them any more. However, all 3 of them still have new cars outside their doors and plenty of money to holiday with while giving their ex wives the minimum amount legally possible to help support THEIR children. One friend, whose husband walked out after an affair - his decision - gives her a fairly good allowance under the proviso that his son goes to a private school. All the allowance goes on paying for the school and their 2 daughters don't get a look in at all. All of my separated friends have to work and provide childcare themselves and all but one of them were left by their husbands and in that case she threw him out after he had a baby with a neighbour. None of my separated friends benefitted in any financial way from their separations, so whatever reports you are reading may not be reflecting the true situation on the frontline, so to speak.
Jan 2, 2014 9:02 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
tinyfangs: If that was an attempt to get measurements, I shall first ask you to show me you can make fire with sticks
The best way to make a fire is to put a big log in the back of the fire place ie the big fire places, then place coal or big sticks down first and then lighter thiner layers on top, light the fire at the top and let it burn down not from the bottom up, always works better and leaves out having to feed the fire for up to an hour, the fire then slowly burns into the big back log in the fire place, have to keep the woman warm get what I want then laugh
Jan 2, 2014 9:06 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
tinyfangs: Fully agreed, but if we have certain requirements for respecting our males (and it seems that a lot of these have to do with how we have developed evolutionary), I'd say it makes fair sense our males will have their requirements the same, and we should aim to fulfill them too.

What could those requirements be that males need fulfilled from us? (and I am not talking cup size here *rolls eyes already in advance* :P)
I completely and fully agree with you that there are criteria that we must fulfil to be worthy of our men, but knowing that a lot of women want and need different things from their men, I appreciate that men also want and need different things from their women. Being kind and compassionate, supportive, helpful and loving would be basics but many men leave their women even when they fulfil those criteria, just as many lovely, decent men are left by women who don't appreciate them.
Jan 2, 2014 9:15 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
tinyfangs
tinyfangstinyfangsunder a rock, Leitrim Ireland26 Threads 4 Polls 1,034 Posts
modermen: The best way to make a fire is to put a big log in the back of the fire place ie the big fire places, then place coal or big sticks down first and then lighter thiner layers on top, light the fire at the top and let it burn down not from the bottom up, always works better and leaves out having to feed the fire for up to an hour, the fire then slowly burns into the big back log in the fire place, have to keep the woman warm get what I want then

hmm.. you definitely sound like you at least know how to keep a fire going well flirty *debates with self whether to send him her cup size now* roll eyes innocent


@ LadyBlackAdder
Those are sad fates you describe, and indeed wrong doings are by no means one sides in regards to gender.
Jan 2, 2014 9:19 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
LadyBlackAdder: I don't know where you get the statistic of 70% of women deserting their families. Are you mixing it up with the fact that it is reported that more women instigate separation than men? That doesn't mean they desert their families. In the main, the women take the children with them or they have the man move out of the family home. Not in all cases though. You will, no doubt, be pleased to discover that in a lot of cases now, the men are managing to hide a lot of their assets in legalities too. Three of my friends husbands went from successful businessmen to humble P.A.Y.E. workers during the period of their separations. Strangely enough their businesses still exist, they just don't officially own them any more. However, all 3 of them still have new cars outside their doors and plenty of money to holiday with while giving their ex wives the minimum amount legally possible to help support THEIR children. One friend, whose husband walked out after an affair - his decision - gives her a fairly good allowance under the proviso that his son goes to a private school. All the allowance goes on paying for the school and their 2 daughters don't get a look in at all. All of my separated friends have to work and provide childcare themselves and all but one of them were left by their husbands and in that case she threw him out after he had a baby with a neighbour. None of my separated friends benefitted in any financial way from their separations, so whatever reports you are reading may not be reflecting the true situation on the frontline, so to speak.
24 grand a month ceaser millan has to pay hes ex for the rest of hes life for her divorcing him, a friend of mine was married for a year and were together for 6 of those months and she got half of hes farm, half a farm for what? the courts or secret courts are totaly biased to men and automaticaly favour women over men and she can come back later for more by going to the courts which again and again favour women. Most divorces are made by women and thats fact .In fact we have very little rights in comparison to women. Please tell me why a woman who says I do at the alter should get half of my friends farm that has been in the family for generations for being with him for 6 months and they dident even have kids
Jan 2, 2014 9:20 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
tinyfangs
tinyfangstinyfangsunder a rock, Leitrim Ireland26 Threads 4 Polls 1,034 Posts
LadyBlackAdder: I completely and fully agree with you that there are criteria that we must fulfil to be worthy of our men, but knowing that a lot of women want and need different things from their men, I appreciate that men also want and need different things from their women. Being kind and compassionate, supportive, helpful and loving would be basics but many men leave their women even when they fulfil those criteria, just as many lovely, decent men are left by women who don't appreciate them.

Indeed, matching is not easy, and the media bombarding us with lots of unrealistic imagery does not help either. We are all left to feel inadequate due to it, and many will also end brainwashed into forever feeling there is 'better' out there, solely dependant on looks. Few nowadays still know harmonic contentment, within themselves, their relationships and about everything else in regards to life blues
Jan 2, 2014 9:27 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
tinyfangs: Indeed, matching is not easy, and the media bombarding us with lots of unrealistic imagery does not help either. We are all left to feel inadequate due to it, and many will also end brainwashed into forever feeling there is 'better' out there, solely dependant on looks. Few nowadays still know harmonic contentment, within themselves, their relationships and about everything else in regards to life
The media, government layers and business have women right where they want them playing to their fears and desires, you only have to look at the adverts on t.v a woman opens her cupboard and theres a hundred pairs of shoes and even that Hello magazins or in other words look what we got or all these superficial super models and again all the feminist propaganda but I think as most women get into their forties they kinda cop it on, well some of them.
Jan 3, 2014 2:59 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
tinyfangs: I'd suggest good martial arts clubs over gym work, but good clubs are not always easy to find, and state interferance has made it even harder


You could be right but I think a lot of the modern clubs are pretty useless. I used to train with a Japanese guy on Gardiner St who was old school and that was tough training. He's whack you with a bo (stick) for the smallest thing. I don't think that would be allowed today to the precious rainbow children


Train hard, fight hard. Train soft, get the crap kicked out of you someday wink
Jan 3, 2014 3:17 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
LadyBlackAdder: Well, then. Hardly surprising I'm looking up at my two sons then, is it?

I'm sure they look up to Mommy in their own way. hug
Jan 3, 2014 3:43 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
fifitrixibelle
fifitrixibellefifitrixibellegalway, Galway Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 4,629 Posts
Jaysis Face, you`re like a jehovahs witness with all the threads you have now.....
Jan 3, 2014 3:46 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
facetowardsfront: Hate is when you knowingly tell lies about a group in order to make people hate them.


hehehehe
Jan 3, 2014 3:47 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
fifitrixibelle
fifitrixibellefifitrixibellegalway, Galway Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 4,629 Posts
WadeWilson: hehehehe
thumbs up grin
Jan 3, 2014 3:49 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
WadeWilson: hehehehe



thumbs up
Jan 3, 2014 3:56 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
tinyfangs
tinyfangstinyfangsunder a rock, Leitrim Ireland26 Threads 4 Polls 1,034 Posts
facetowardsfront: Train hard, fight hard. Train soft, get the crap kicked out of you someday

Agreed, but some are just not lucky enough to have received the right training in time, and then maybe those who know how to fight back need jump in to avoid the worst, but of course we are also now raised to look away and not care.

*is rambling off topic and wanders away, mind occupied with something else*
Jan 3, 2014 3:59 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
tinyfangs: Agreed, but some are just not lucky enough to have received the right training in time, and then maybe those who know how to fight back need jump in to avoid the worst, but of course we are also now raised to look away and not care.

*is rambling off topic and wanders away, mind occupied with something else*


I didn't think I was lucky at the time but it was the only way to deal with the mutts from Conquer Hill laugh

Over and out for tonight wave
Jan 3, 2014 4:46 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
tinyfangs: Yes, people aren't freely coosing what they want to be at all, but are manipulated into choosing without even noticing it. And many males noawdays have even grown afraid of the challenges of being male. They are beginning to enjoy being soft of body and weakened of mind, through that creating a new gender in my view, for I can not call them male, even though I know this sounds harsh, I can not help that.

All the while females believe they have 'gained freedom' from some 'oppression', when in truth all of us are more shackled and tied then ever, and we females are now forced to grow stronger, due to the lack of males about still able or willing to protect and shelter a female, and none of this makes us happier. The system tells males as well as us what a 'good male' is all about, and I hear males everywhere proclaiming how 'nice and kind and considerate' they are - and then they wonder why females do not activate to them, and females wonder why hearing such doesn't get them all excited either.

The forefathers once ruled this world, supported by the foremothers, leaders once led from the front, not from the shadows, and love wasn't just something performed on TV screens by perfect faces and bodies, but had its place among real males and females, who still knew how to combine their evolutionary differences to the best benefit for their unions.

I just hope humanity will wake before it is too late, and that at least those of the future will be able to live again in natural freedom, instead of just existing as pawns used by the ones truly oppressing them.


The beginnings of a cult and it all started here on CS.

What will it be called? The Tiny Face Race? laugh

Go for it guys, I'd support you.

I wont join you though...I'd never fit in.
Jan 3, 2014 4:48 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
fifitrixibelle
fifitrixibellefifitrixibellegalway, Galway Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 4,629 Posts
Fraya: The beginnings of a cult and it all started here on CS.

What will it be called? The Tiny Face Race?

Go for it guys, I'd support you.

I wont join you though...I'd never fit in.
thumbs up match made in..... grin
Jan 3, 2014 4:53 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
fifitrixibelle: match made in.....


Yes and its nice to see.

Now if you could just get yourself closer to that odd shaped quick witted willy call larry laugh
Jan 3, 2014 4:55 PM CST Are you in favour of men's rights or Feminism
Fraya: Yes and its nice to see.

Now if you could just get yourself closer to that odd shaped quick witted willy call larry


<knock knock> Hello Ma'am, do you have 5 minutes to talk about the Patriarchy? grin

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