Why has Obama's popularity fallen so fast? (136)
FreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 PostsThat's so damnnnnnnnnn funny! (Carter) 
oldfoxyguy: It is actually quite simple, The man has never even run a grocery store and he was expected to run a Country? He was not qualified in any way, shape or form. He then surrounded himself with left wing radicals who's hatred for America shone like a beacon as they revealed what they wanted to do while there. They all seemed to ignore the fact that neither Socialism or Communism has been successful, long term, anywhere in the world. Even Castro has realized this and is moving Cuba in a more Entrepreneurial direction. Americans are slow to anger but Obama has waved a red flag in front of the BIG SILENT BULL and he and his gang of Lefties will be out of the ring without a shot being fired. Long Live the Ballot Box!!!!
That's just the problem. For the last couple of presidents, the ballot box has been replaced by a computer game that preselects the outcome before the people even vote.
That's how a nobody like Obama got into office. And he could "win" another "election" if those who control wanted him to.
But they are willingly letting his popularity disintegrate so I think they only want him for one term.
Politicians are like toilet paper. Once they are saturated with filth they are flushed down the drain so that the people manipulating them can keep their hands clean.
RayfromUSA:
Politicians are like toilet paper. Once they are saturated with filth they are flushed down the drain so that the people manipulating them can keep their hands clean.
Politicians are like toilet paper. Once they are saturated with filth they are flushed down the drain so that the people manipulating them can keep their hands clean.
And Obama is pretty well saturated.
ttom500: Did you see where Pres. Obama is sot talking Obamacare now? Yes....now he is back tracking on it. Hoping to give DEM canidates room to distance themselves from thier votes on it.
The problem there.....most Americans will actually think that what you say Yea and Nea to in a House or Senate vote...is actually what you think should be law for the country. So it very difficult to distance yourself from such votes.
The only way to distance yourself from a vote....is to tell the voting public....I voted for it, but was derranged the day they had the vote on it....so did not know what I was voting for. In which case they get to vote you out of office for incompetency and mental illness.
The problem there.....most Americans will actually think that what you say Yea and Nea to in a House or Senate vote...is actually what you think should be law for the country. So it very difficult to distance yourself from such votes.
The only way to distance yourself from a vote....is to tell the voting public....I voted for it, but was derranged the day they had the vote on it....so did not know what I was voting for. In which case they get to vote you out of office for incompetency and mental illness.
Or alternatively you could tell the truth: It's not the best plan in the world but it is an improvement and it was the best we could get past the hysteria generated by know nothing wing nuts.....and Fox News of course.
Fallingman: Or alternatively you could tell the truth: It's not the best plan in the world but it is an improvement and it was the best we could get past the hysteria generated by know nothing wing nuts.....and Fox News of course.
Any type of socialization of healthcare is a disaster.
Insurance is bad enough.
But government run healthcare is the worst plan imaginable.
Fallingman: Don't forget Bush W, Nixon and the great vaccuous communicator himself Reagan
Got to stop smoking that cheap stuff.
Look at the ratings for the US presidents. You won't see Reagan at the bottom.
...lots of competition
Got to stop smoking that cheap stuff.
Look at the ratings for the US presidents. You won't see Reagan at the bottom.
...lots of competition
gardenhackle: I'm still waiting to hear the argument "You just hate Obama because he's half white".
oldfoxyguy: It is actually quite simple, The man has never even run a grocery store and he was expected to run a Country? He was not qualified in any way, shape or form. He then surrounded himself with left wing radicals who's hatred for America shone like a beacon as they revealed what they wanted to do while there. They all seemed to ignore the fact that neither Socialism or Communism has been successful, long term, anywhere in the world. Even Castro has realized this and is moving Cuba in a more Entrepreneurial direction. Americans are slow to anger but Obama has waved a red flag in front of the BIG SILENT BULL and he and his gang of Lefties will be out of the ring without a shot being fired. Long Live the Ballot Box!!!!
Obama's ideological base.
Recruits into the Obama-Youth receive a recommended reading list that includes Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals". It's a step-by-step guide to the violent overthrow of the United States government.
Back in his Chicago "community organizer" days Obama followed Alinsky's program, whipping up unrest where none existed and then using the unrest as leverage to extract money from the government for "community projects" such as ACORN.
Here are a few quotes from Alinsky's book.
“The Radical does not sit frozen by cold objectivity...He is a man of decision and action. Society has good reason to fear the Radical.... He hits, he hurts, he is dangerous. Conservative interests know that while Liberals are most adept at breaking their own necks with their tongues, Radicals are most adept at breaking the necks of Conservatives."...
"Radicals precipitate social crises by action – by using power… The Radical recognizes that constant dissension and conflict is the fire under the boiler of democracy. He firmly believes in that brave saying of a brave people, 'Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!'"
"The Radical may resort to the sword but when he does he is not filled with hatred against those individuals whom he attacks.
He hates these individuals not as persons but as symbols representing ideas or interests which he believes to be inimical to the welfare of the people… "
-- Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals (Obama's hero)
Obama is just a patsy, of course.
He doesn't really decide or control anything important.
But he is a patsy who was chosen for his mastery of Alinsky's tactics of forcing "change" on the public.
I have to admit he's pretty good at pretending to be harmless when he is doing more damage to the nation than any president before him.
Recruits into the Obama-Youth receive a recommended reading list that includes Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals". It's a step-by-step guide to the violent overthrow of the United States government.
Back in his Chicago "community organizer" days Obama followed Alinsky's program, whipping up unrest where none existed and then using the unrest as leverage to extract money from the government for "community projects" such as ACORN.
Here are a few quotes from Alinsky's book.
“The Radical does not sit frozen by cold objectivity...He is a man of decision and action. Society has good reason to fear the Radical.... He hits, he hurts, he is dangerous. Conservative interests know that while Liberals are most adept at breaking their own necks with their tongues, Radicals are most adept at breaking the necks of Conservatives."...
"Radicals precipitate social crises by action – by using power… The Radical recognizes that constant dissension and conflict is the fire under the boiler of democracy. He firmly believes in that brave saying of a brave people, 'Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!'"
"The Radical may resort to the sword but when he does he is not filled with hatred against those individuals whom he attacks.
He hates these individuals not as persons but as symbols representing ideas or interests which he believes to be inimical to the welfare of the people… "
-- Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals (Obama's hero)
Obama is just a patsy, of course.
He doesn't really decide or control anything important.
But he is a patsy who was chosen for his mastery of Alinsky's tactics of forcing "change" on the public.
I have to admit he's pretty good at pretending to be harmless when he is doing more damage to the nation than any president before him.
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RayfromUSA: Well, let me tell you it doesn't work here in Europe either.
Greece was just the first of a long string of countries in serious trouble. Spain will be next and all of Europe will pass through the wringer before its over. Socialization and unification are fairly easy to sell to a population at first. Especially if the economy is bad. People think it will protect them. But what it really does is make it impossible for people to protect themselves.
It's not because of stupidity.
It's because of evil.
Socialization is a way to rob the population of entire countries.
Greece was just the first of a long string of countries in serious trouble. Spain will be next and all of Europe will pass through the wringer before its over. Socialization and unification are fairly easy to sell to a population at first. Especially if the economy is bad. People think it will protect them. But what it really does is make it impossible for people to protect themselves.
It's not because of stupidity.
It's because of evil.
Socialization is a way to rob the population of entire countries.
We finally agree on something 100%, Ray. Ok backtrcking here )).....99.9999%. Here on CS, 100% agreement is never found.
Ronald Reagon nailed it, in Berlin. Those East Berliners that heard his message had lived under socialist Communism for 3 decades, knew what socialism was about. The Poles did as well. Every country and people on the east side of the wall knew.
That is why when the wall came down in Berlin....it just spread....to use our old SE Asia anaylsis....it domino thru the WARSAW pact. Why some want to drag it up today, I will never figure out. Let it remain buried with Stalin and Lenin in Red Square.
Fallingman: the level of political debate in the US never ceases to amaze!
Americans can take a mundane political event and make a major issue.
Take a mole hill political issue and make a mountain. Take slip of a Politician's tongue and end a career. Take a political flip and flob it into a whopper.
ttom500: Americans can take a mundane political event and make a major issue.
Take a mole hill political issue and make a mountain. Take slip of a Politician's tongue and end a career. Take a political flip and flob it into a whopper.
Take a mole hill political issue and make a mountain. Take slip of a Politician's tongue and end a career. Take a political flip and flob it into a whopper.
No, it wasn't a compliment. I was referring to the rudeness and ad hominem nature of a lot of the nonsense that passes for political debate.
Fallingman: No, it wasn't a compliment. I was referring to the rudeness and ad hominem nature of a lot of the nonsense that passes for political debate.
Then I will not take it as compliment and just consider it rude when Europeans take so much interest in American politics. Specially when it was Europeans that first held to liberty and freedom, but gave it was for Sharia Law and Political Correctness.
Even the concept of a "national healthcare plan" is already accepting the idea of socialized medicine.
What business does the government have in imposing such a boondoggle on the public.
The public demand for a "healthcare plan" is like the Roman rabble crying "let Brutus be Ceasar". It shows that the public is so caught up in the prevailing paranoia that they cannot even imagine being free.
The best plan for healthcare (or anything else) is always private competition and personal thrift. It costs a lot less to save up money for one's future needs than it does to pay government to do the same thing. And one can never really trust the government to do what is needed with the money it takes.
It's too late for the public to reclaim control of their own healthcare. The spendthrift society, and the resultant huge public and private debt have already destroyed the private option. In this failing economy, if the government doesn't provide healthcare, people just won't have healthcare.
But it's a lot like asking the wolves to protect the sheep.
What business does the government have in imposing such a boondoggle on the public.
The public demand for a "healthcare plan" is like the Roman rabble crying "let Brutus be Ceasar". It shows that the public is so caught up in the prevailing paranoia that they cannot even imagine being free.
The best plan for healthcare (or anything else) is always private competition and personal thrift. It costs a lot less to save up money for one's future needs than it does to pay government to do the same thing. And one can never really trust the government to do what is needed with the money it takes.
It's too late for the public to reclaim control of their own healthcare. The spendthrift society, and the resultant huge public and private debt have already destroyed the private option. In this failing economy, if the government doesn't provide healthcare, people just won't have healthcare.
But it's a lot like asking the wolves to protect the sheep.
Last Tuesday President Obama got off the helicopter in front of
The White House - carrying a baby piglet under each arm.
The squared-away Marine guard snapped to attention, saluted and said:
"Nice pigs, sir." The President replied: "These are not pigs. These are
authentic Arkansas Razorback Hogs. I got one for Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton, and I got one for Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi."
The squared-away Marine again snapped to attention, salutes and said,
"Excellent trade, sir." Two Down......
The White House - carrying a baby piglet under each arm.
The squared-away Marine guard snapped to attention, saluted and said:
"Nice pigs, sir." The President replied: "These are not pigs. These are
authentic Arkansas Razorback Hogs. I got one for Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton, and I got one for Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi."
The squared-away Marine again snapped to attention, salutes and said,
"Excellent trade, sir."
Two Down......
In response to: The best plan for healthcare (or anything else) is always private competition and personal thrift. It costs a lot less to save up money for one's future needs than it does to pay government to do the same thing. And one can never really trust the government to do what is needed with the money it takes.
Our healthcare in the UK is 'Free at the point of delivery'. We pay for it through taxes and an additional tax 'National Insurance'. Our spending per capita and the percentage of GDP spent on health is lower than that of the USA. Private competition in the USA and the health system you have has proven to be grossly inefficient. Look at how much money the pharma giants are putting behind the anti- socialised healthcare campaigns to see the true beneficiaries.
ChasingCars: Our healthcare in the UK is 'Free at the point of delivery'. We pay for it through taxes and an additional tax 'National Insurance'. Our spending per capita and the percentage of GDP spent on health is lower than that of the USA. Private competition in the USA and the health system you have has proven to be grossly inefficient. Look at how much money the pharma giants are putting behind the anti- socialised healthcare campaigns to see the true beneficiaries.
Nothing is FREE in your Life,not even Death.The cost of that is your Life!
Conrad73: Nothing is FREE in your Life,not even Death.
The cost of that is your Life!
The cost of that is your Life!
Who said anything about anything being FREE - we pay for it through our tax system. The UKs socialised health system is far more cost efficient than the USA's 'Free-Market' health 'system' FACT.
ChasingCars: Our healthcare in the UK is 'Free at the point of delivery'. We pay for it through taxes and an additional tax 'National Insurance'. Our spending per capita and the percentage of GDP spent on health is lower than that of the USA. Private competition in the USA and the health system you have has proven to be grossly inefficient. Look at how much money the pharma giants are putting behind the anti- socialised healthcare campaigns to see the true beneficiaries.
Don't kid yourself about the American system being representative of private competition. The health insurance industry in the US has been a form of pre-socialization.
Insurance companies with enormous, and expensive work forces and shareholders who want their dividends add their entire costs onto the cost of medical care. And government passes laws to make insurance compulsory for many situations, thus driving up costs and making it impossible for individuals to simply pay for their own healthcare.
That's not private competition. It's a fascist sort of socialism.
To find real competition at work you have to look at the third world where nobody has health insurance. When I was in Indonesia and Taiwan I found the healthcare to be excellent and it was inexpensive, because you pay only for healthcare and not parasites like insurance companies, or government health administrations (the most inefficient and wasteful of all possible systems).
ChasingCars: Who said anything about anything being FREE - we pay for it through our tax system. The UKs socialised health system is far more cost efficient than the USA's 'Free-Market' health 'system' FACT.
As stated above, the US insurance-based healthcare system is no example to judge by.
But even so, I doubt your "FACT" that Britain's social medical system is more "cost effective".
A true comparison would be complicated because it would have to compare a lot of parameters. But from what I have heard from British citizens, Britain is plagued by the same problems as all socialized medical systems.
I believe that in Britain, like here in France, people have to buy supplementary health insurance to cover all the things that the government doesn't cover. The cost of such "mutuel" insurance is about as high as Americans pay for full coverage health insurance now, but the cost is over and above the already high medical taxes that are taken directly from people's paychecks.
Another endimic problem of social insurance is that general practioners are severely underpaid and hospitals are under financed.
After all every penny "wasted" on healthcare for the peons is a penny that can't be recuperated for other uses. The health administration is full of cushy executive level positions that can be given to political friends. And their high salaries can then be considered "healthcare costs".
Well when Bush won instead of Gore I was very disappointed. And then when he got reelected, the first thing I said to my Nana was I don't know if I can take him another 4 YEARS! 
And she didn't know either. He was so bloody annoying. He really got under my skin. Being in Canada we hear about your politics all the time but I guess I would hear it less if I quit watching CNN!
Even though Clinton was a dirt bay and cheated on Hilary, loved him as well. Good President.
I hope Obama gets relected!!!!
And she didn't know either. He was so bloody annoying. He really got under my skin. Being in Canada we hear about your politics all the time but I guess I would hear it less if I quit watching CNN! Even though Clinton was a dirt bay and cheated on Hilary, loved him as well. Good President.
I hope Obama gets relected!!!!
musicfreak:
Send him to Canada. We'd love to have him.
Send him to Canada. We'd love to have him.
Good idea, sending Obama to Canada would raise the average IQ of both nations by 5 points.
musicfreak: Well when Bush won instead of Gore I was very disappointed. And then when he got reelected, the first thing I said to my Nana was I don't know if I can take him another 4 YEARS! And she didn't know either. He was so bloody annoying. He really got under my skin. Being in Canada we hear about your politics all the time but I guess I would hear it less if I quit watching CNN!
Even though Clinton was a dirt bay and cheated on Hilary, loved him as well. Good President.
I hope Obama gets relected!!!!
Well,ain't that special!Even though Clinton was a dirt bay and cheated on Hilary, loved him as well. Good President.
I hope Obama gets relected!!!!
Conrad73: Well,ain't that special!
By the way.
You don't have to like Bush in order to dislike Obama.
Personally I consider them to be a matched set.
You don't have to like Bush in order to dislike Obama.
Personally I consider them to be a matched set.
RayfromUSA: Good idea, sending Obama to Canada would raise the average IQ of both nations by 5 points.
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