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RE: women, what type of perfume is your favorite ?

sorry, meant to wuote you there

RE: women, what type of perfume is your favorite ?

oh, I used to have some of that - it was amazingly beautiful

RE: women, what type of perfume is your favorite ?

personally, Im partial to the scent/perfume of a man

RE: Who can actually cook in here ?

ooh, for sausages I like choritho - dont know if I spelt that right

RE: Who can actually cook in here ?

yes, is it still considered cuisine though - oh flippin ec - not by me - maybe my palette is too uneducated

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

Hiya Gra - I actually really enjoy these God threads - gives me a chance to get it all out

Its surprising the amount of people one encounters in everyday life who call themselves a christian or whatever - and they have no real idea of what they are actually saying - sometimes all I percieve are automata

Gimme a ring Gra, theres a party at Marks on saturday

RE: Who can actually cook in here ?

Yep - I can cook - apple pies to make yr mouth water - curries from basic spices - and a sunday lunch to die for - not bad at Italian - ok at Chinese too - but I draw the line at Japanese Suschi - is that actually classed as 'cooking'?

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

and maybe even worse is the stuff the various Popes have burned over the centuries - all that knowledge suppressed and kept from us - they decided we couldnt have it and that was that - the Gnostic Gospels prove this goes on if anybody doubted

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

I dont know who knows Kid cos they sure aint telling - but we will get there Im sure - too much of a hurry is probably not such a good thing after all

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

I wonder why nobody has anyhting to say about the Bible passages I mention - it took me ages to find them - oops, better stop with the humour

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

I havent really read much on Newton Ray but be assured I will be doing and thanks.

This is what I meant by the the abuses of intelligence, many such things have been kept from people, if not in a direct form (as in banning various authors works) then in a more indirect or even covert manner - when will people see this for themselves and stop thinking a person who sees differently to them is a source of harm

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

would you like me to cut the humour now or what - I can assure you, it gets much, much, and even more much, worse

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

oh no....... spare me the prayers, I wanna go to hell when I go - I believe they have much more fun there

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

thanks Ray, actually, my sense of humour has been more than dampened by these discussions. I find the whole thing extremely sad.

I feel that basic theories of learning and intelligence have been abused for many yrs

And I see the results in the world around me every day

I know there is no proof of the theory being expounded

This makes me fearful and therein lies the seeming losss if humour























but really - I is a party gal hahahahahahahaha

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

TWELVE UTAH CHRISTMASES
Parody of "The Twelve Days of Christmas"
Lyrics by M. Spaff Sumsion and Robert Lund

PERFORMED BY ROBERT LUND
From the CD Workin' the Glory BUY @ $10.99
Also appears on Elves Gone Wild! BUY @ $10.99
Sample/Download from the Mad Music Archive


On my first Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Popcorn popping on the apricot tree

On my second Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Two years on a mission
And the Smart family on my TV

On my third Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Three Jell-o salads
Two years in Australia
And a First Amendment controversy

On my fourth Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
4-A high school roundball
Three Sunday meetings
Two years in Korea
And that business with the SLOC

On my fifth Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
FIVE-QUART ICE CREAMS
Four firing squads
Three scrapbooks
Two years in Peru
And a movie that's G or PG

On my sixth Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Six kids and counting
FIVE YEARS OF DROUGHT
Four quilting bees
Three meth labs
Two years in Japan
And a reservoir that's almost empty

On my seventh Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Seven singing Osmonds
Six kids and counting
FIVE TOM GREEN WIVES
Forbidden love
Three spudnuts
Two years in Brazil
And a single poli-tickle party

On my eighth Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Eight cups of Postum
Seven kids and counting
Six beehive hairdos
FIVE MONTHS OF SNOW
Forty private clubs (for members)
Three-two beer
Two years in Taiwan
And a salty lake that's really stinky

On my ninth Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Nine percent minorities
Eight kids and counting
Seventies in Conference
Sixteen to start dating
FIVE FEET OF SLUSH (Oh my heck!)
Forgeries for sale
Three-piece suits
Two years in Ukraine
And a fiancée in Happy Valley

On my tenth Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Ten bucks for parking
Nine kids and counting
Eight missing off-ramps
Seven guns per person
Six famous golfers
UTAH BY FIVE
Fourteen ski resorts
Three fault lines
Two years in Detroit
And a minivan or SUV (or both, plus a station wagon)

On my eleventh Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Eleven Mormon temples
Ten kids and counting
Nine NuSkin neighbors
Ate at Chuck-a-Rama
Theven thpecial thpiritth
Six Jell-o salads
FIVE ORRIN TERMS (Oh my Hatch!)
Forecast is cold
Three Eubanks (three?)
Two years in Tibet
And an uncompleted Legacy
(Highway)

On my twelfth Utah Christmas, my true love gave to me
Twelve-year-old deacons
Eleven kids and counting
Ten percent tithing
Nine zillion seagulls
Ate a bunch of crickets
Seven Peaks in Provo
Six hours to Vegas
FIVE PRO SPORTS TEAMS (if you count indoor football)
Four standard works
Three Nephites
Tooele ROCKS!


And a Robert Lund Christmas CD!
(Elves Gone Wild!)

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

SUNDAY I'M IN CHURCH
Parody of The Cure's "Friday I'm in Love"
Lyrics by M. Spaff Sumsion

I've got Cubs on Tuesday nights
Wednesday, Thursday, P.P.I.'s
Friday, packing camp supplies
And Sunday I'm in church

Wednesday it's the quilting bee
Tuesday night, H.F.P.E.
On Monday, genealogy
And Sunday I'm in church

Saturday - Scouts
Bust some service projects out
Store some food in case of drought

Tuesday's always temple day
Wednesday, Thursday, M.I.A.
Friday night, High Priest soiree
And Sunday I'm in church

Wednesday, work the welfare farm
Thursday, help the Elder's Qarm
On Friday night I'll wash the garm
-ents, Sunday I'm in church

Saturday's - when
Sunday's talks get planned again
And Conference for the brether-en

On Sunday I thrive
There's meetings till five
And then I wait - till home teachers arrive
I'm a Temple Square guide
I make refreshments with pride
I'm in the road show - and the fireside
My eternal reward
Is to never be bored
I teach the youth how to serve the ward
It's such uplifting work
That I'm going berserk
All Sunday I'm in church!

Thursday after basketball
Decorate the cultural hall
Friday night's the singles' ball
And Sunday I'm in church

Wednesday, Thursday, choose the right
Tuesday, mix some punch with Sprite
Monday's always fam'ly night
And Sunday I'm in Church!

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

ok, humour - on this Socrates postulates - hahaha, no noly kidding


MICHAEL MOORE IS COMIN' TO TOWN
Parody of "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town"
Lyrics by M. Spaff Sumsion

PERFORMED BY ROBERT LUND

You better watch out
You better all flee
You better phone threats to UVSC
Michael Moore is comin' to town

He's gonna get booed
He's gonna get pissed
He's gonna say Bush is Satan's right fist
Michael Moore is comin' to town

He'll see lines of protestors
From campus to the mall
He'll probably face a firing squad
This is Utah after all

So -
You better store food
And drinks you don't like
We're 'bout to get hit by Hurricane Mike
Michael Moore is comin' to town

He knows he won't win converts
He knows it's hardly worth
The search for nonconformists here
In the reddest state on earth

Oh -
You better watch out
You better pray hard
You better renew your NRA card
Michael Moore is comin' to town!

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

A DAY IN THE EXODUS
Parody of The Beatles' "A Day in the Life"
Lyrics by M. Spaff Sumsion

PERFORMED BY RICK CORMIER

I led the Jews today, oh boy
Up to this mount - I think it's "Cyanide"
And oh the Jews were rather bad
But I just raised my staff
And smashed their golden calf

It blew my mind, that hand of God
I never knew he wore a pinkie ring
The crowd was read his new Top Ten
They sure complained a lot
Nobody was really sure if they'd obey one Thou Shalt Not

I saw a plague today, oh boy
The Egypt army, smacked with bugs and frogs
The cows and people puked all day
But I just held my nose
Said: Yo Pha-ra-oh
Dude let my
Peo...
ple...
Go...

[An awesome sonic crescendo orchestrates the even awesomer parting of the Red Sea.]

[Then an alarm clock jars Moses into this flashback:]

Got born
Got near erased
Rode the Nile - a basket case
Found by Pharaoh's daughter, what a shock
I learned to walk
Like an Egyp-ti-an

I was Prince, but whacked a creep
Jumped my bail, moved in with sheep
Stayed for forty years there, holy smoke
A burning bush spoke
And I thought I'd gone insane:

"Sla-a-a-aves...
Free the SLA-a-a-aves..."
(etc.)

MEANWHILE, BACK AT CAMP...

I led the Jews today - oy vey -
Right through a hole; the Red Sea disappeared
The armies came and it refilled
We'll test their swimming skill
Best of all, the lot was caught on tape by Cecil B. DeMille

I'd love to
Reach...
Zi...
on...

[The parting of the Red Sea is such a crowd pleaser that the scene is repeated here. (No, it's not parted twice in the Bible, but this is Hollywood.) At the peak of the sea-parting crescendo, the water walls fall in on the Egyptian army to the sound of a final, sustained chord.]

[And there is much rejoicing.]

RE: Hi i'm Linsi

Hello and Welcome

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

It amused me too Ray

I think its frowned on because it suggests non-compiance - but Im beggared if I know with what

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

1. Do you suffer from delusions of grandeur to assume that your faith intimidates me? I am not an easily intimidated person Gnome, especially when it comes to issues in which I have plenty of self confidence – such as this. Actually, that hits on one of the cornerstones of my abhorrence, yes, abhorrence of Christianity – its use of intimidation - this is evident throughout most of the Bible.

I just did a search of the book you mention and found the contents quite commendable, however, I have found many such others in my searching’s which are not based on Christianity – there are many such people in the world nowadays, thankfully, and many such quests to address issues such as spiritual emptiness, egocentric leadership, extreme poverty, pandemic disease, and illiteracy. Or is this another claim of yours for which Christianity gets the gold cup?

I must here mention how happy it makes me that education is nowadays in the hands of the people as opposed to, in the hands of the church and although still in its infancy, it pleases me immensely to see the many changes which are afoot.



2. Please, by the same token, do not assume that all who do not pray do not do good deeds – what a crazy notion. I have never dug a well or cared for an orphan but have done lots of voluntary works in different areas – as have many of us who don’t need to depend on piety as a means of self worth.

3. Christian conspiracy of world domination, hahaha, nope, that day has long since passed, the chance was there and they blew it – people are seeing through the lies, the calls to arms and the world domination bullsh--. To each their own is a much more friendly concept – it may be too late though – we will see.

Yes, the infighting with the various Christian denominations, quite troubling isn’t it – where does it all stem from do you think?

I think it may have a lot to do with the base upon which the church is built – personally.


4. You think that man has little lasting impact on nature? Tell that to the people from Chernobyl or Nagasaki. Better still, tell it to Bush, he speaks with God you know – maybe he will be on our side in the next war if GW tells him to.

Nuclear fallout damages for years - Significant immunological alterations noted include: (i) attrition of T-cell functions, as reductions in mitogen-dependent proliferation and interleukin-2 (IL-2) production; (ii) decrease in helper T-cell populations; and (iii) increase in blood inflammatory cytokine levels.

These findings suggest that A-bomb radiation exposure perturbed one or more of the primary processes responsible for T-cell homeostasis and the balance between cell renewal and survival and cell death among naïve and memory T cells. Such perturbed T-cell homeostasis may result in acceleration of immunological aging. Persistent inflammation, linked in some way to the perturbation of T-cell homeostasis, is key in addressing whether such noted immunological changes observed in A-bomb survivors are in fact associated with disease development.

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

How the heck can people say these things were not written by men

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

Hey, Gnome - I concede - you were possibly right about Mark Twain wasting his breath


Mass Killing



Then I saw a vision of the Lord standing beside the altar. He said, "Strike the tops of the Temple columns so hard that the foundation will shake. Smash the columns so the roof will crash down on the people below. Then those who survive will be slaughtered in battle. No one will escape! "Even if they dig down to the place of the dead, I will reach down and pull them up. Even if they climb up into the heavens, I will bring them down. Even if they hide at the very top of Mount Carmel, I will search them out and capture them. Even if they hide at the bottom of the ocean, I will send the great sea serpent after them to bite and destroy them. Even if they are driven into exile, I will command the sword to kill them there. I am determined to bring disaster upon them and not to help them." (Amos 9:1-4 NLT)

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

Women are Subordinate to Men

But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ. Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; for indeed man was not created for the woman's sake, but woman for the man's sake. Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. (1 Corinthians 11:3-10 NAS)


Children Punished for Their Father's Sins

Please, Lord, prove that your power is as great as you have claimed it to be. For you said, "The LORD is slow to anger and rich in unfailing love, forgiving every kind of sin and rebellion. Even so he does not leave sin unpunished, but he punishes the children for the sins of their parents to the third and fourth generations." (Numbers 14:17-18 NLT)


Plagues for Nonbelieving Nations

And the LORD will send a plague on all the nations that fought against Jerusalem. Their people will become like walking corpses, their flesh rotting away. Their eyes will shrivel in their sockets, and their tongues will decay in their mouths. On that day they will be terrified, stricken by the LORD with great panic. They will fight against each other in hand-to-hand combat; Judah, too, will be fighting at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the neighboring nations will be captured – great quantities of gold and silver and fine clothing. This same plague will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the other animals in the enemy camps. In the end, the enemies of Jerusalem who survive the plague will go up to Jerusalem each year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Shelters. And any nation anywhere in the world that refuses to come to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, will have no rain. And if the people of Egypt refuse to attend the festival, the LORD will punish them with the same plague that he sends on the other nations who refuse to go. Egypt and the other nations will all be punished if they don't go to celebrate the festival. (Zechariah 14:12-19 NLT)

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In light of the above, I think a few angry thoughts which some of us share towards this brainwashing - are quite well justified

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

is this the Bible you mean Gnome?




Young Widows are Bad News

The younger widows should not be on the list [for financial support from the Church], because their physical desires will overpower their devotion to Christ and they will want to remarry. Then they would be guilty of breaking their previous pledge. Besides, they are likely to become lazy and spend their time gossiping from house to house, getting into other people's business and saying things they shouldn't. So I advise these younger widows to marry again, have children, and take care of their own homes. Then the enemy will not be able to say anything against them. For I am afraid that some of them have already gone astray and now follow Satan. (1 Timothy 5:11-15 NLT)

Nations Saved for Target Practice

The LORD left certain nations in the land to test those Israelites who had not participated in the wars of Canaan. He did this to teach warfare to generations of Israelites who had no experience in battle. These were the nations: the Philistines (those living under the five Philistine rulers), all the Canaanites, the Sidonians, and the Hivites living in the hill country of Lebanon from Mount Baal-hermon to Lebo-hamath. These people were left to test the Israelites – to see whether they would obey the commands the LORD had given to their ancestors through Moses. (Judges 3:1-4 NLT)


Destroy Towns of Nonbelievers

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


Murder in Gods Name

Solomon heard that Shimei had left Jerusalem and had gone to Gath and returned. So he sent for Shimei and demanded, "Didn't I make you swear by the LORD and warn you not to go anywhere else, or you would surely die? And you replied, 'The sentence is fair; I will do as you say.' Then why haven't you kept your oath to the LORD and obeyed my command?" The king also said to Shimei, "You surely remember all the wicked things you did to my father, King David. May the LORD punish you for them. But may I receive the LORD's rich blessings, and may one of David's descendants always sit on this throne." Then, at the king's command, Benaiah son of Jehoiada took Shimei outside and killed him. So the kingdom was now firmly in Solomon's grip. (1 Kings 2:41-46 NLT)

RE: The force was with Me..................

woohoo - well done Congratulations

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

not - he is younger than my son for wisdoms sake

RE: God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.

From Nexus magazine - July 2007.

The Forged Origins of The New Testament

In the fourth century, the Roman Emperor Constantine united all religious factions under one composite deity, and ordered the compilation of new and old writings into a uniform collection that became the New Testament.



The Church claims that "the resurrection is the fundamental argument for our Christian belief" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xii, p. 792), yet no supernatural appearance of a resurrected Jesus Christ is recorded in any of the earliest Gospels of Mark available. A resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ is the sine qua non ("without which, nothing") of Christianity (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xii, p. 792), confirmed by words attributed to Paul: "If Christ has not been raised, your faith is in vain" (1 Cor. 5:17).

The resurrection verses in today's Gospels of Mark are universally acknowledged as forgeries and the Church agrees, saying "the conclusion of Mark is admittedly not genuine ... almost the entire section is a later compilation" (Encyclopaedia Biblica, vol. ii, p. 1880, vol. iii, pp. 1767, 1781; also, Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. iii, under the heading "The Evidence of its Spuriousness"; Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. iii, pp. 274-9 under heading "Canons"). Undaunted, however, the Church accepted the forgery into its dogma and made it the basis of Christianity.

The trend of fictitious resurrection narratives continues. The final chapter of the Gospel of John (21) is a sixth-century forgery, one entirely devoted to describing Jesus' resurrection to his disciples. The Church admits: "The sole conclusion that can be deduced from this is that the 21st chapter was afterwards added and is therefore to be regarded as an appendix to the Gospel" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. viii, pp. 441-442; New Catholic Encyclopedia (NCE), "Gospel of John", p. 1080; also NCE, vol. xii, p. 407).

"The Great Insertion" and "The Great Omission"

Modern-day versions of the Gospel of Luke have a staggering 10,000 more words than the same Gospel in the Sinai Bible. Six of those words say of Jesus "and was carried up into heaven", but this narrative does not appear in any of the oldest Gospels of Luke available today ("Three Early Doctrinal Modifications of the Text of the Gospels", F. C. Conybeare, The Hibbert Journal, London, vol. 1, no. 1, Oct 1902, pp. 96-113).

Ancient versions do not verify modern-day accounts of an ascension of Jesus Christ, and this falsification clearly indicates an intention to deceive.

Today, the Gospel of Luke is the longest of the canonical Gospels because it now includes "The Great Insertion", an extraordinary 15th-century addition totalling around 8,500 words (Luke 9:51-18:14). The insertion of these forgeries into that Gospel bewilders modern Christian analysts, and of them the Church said: "The character of these passages makes it dangerous to draw inferences" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Pecci ed., vol. ii, p. 407).

Just as remarkable, the oldest Gospels of Luke omit all verses from 6:45 to 8:26, known in priesthood circles as "The Great Omission", a total of 1,547 words. In today's versions, that hole has been "plugged up" with passages plagiarised from other Gospels. Dr Tischendorf found that three paragraphs in newer versions of the Gospel of Luke's version of the Last Supper appeared in the 15th century, but the Church still passes its Gospels off as the unadulterated "word of God"

("Are Our Gospels Genuine or Not?", op. cit.)

RE: CS women and mindfful

cheers hun, may your day be all you wish for too

RE: Alcohol

ooooh - Im glad I didnt find that version then - thanks for the info Conrad