PJ1961 Forum Posts (905)

RE: Should the commander and chief of the military "President" have served in the military

partly correct, Bush Jr primarily bailed out on his Natl Guard Service, but Bush Sr is a Vet of WWII.

List of Presidents of the United States by military service

RE: Should the commander and chief of the military "President" have served in the military

looking at the track record - military Presidents have done no favors for the world or tax payers with perpetual increases in military spending....

RE: Should the commander and chief of the military "President" have served in the military

There's already too much emphasis on military in the US political paradigm. A Prez with a military background doesn't add anything new or unique to the WH.

It would be amazing if future Presidents came with a track record of success in philanthropy, education, or medical fields instead of law or military.

RE: FUTURE OF THE EURO

Interesting social comment in that second article:

I go even further in my views than Mises. I maintain, and have tried to provide evidence of this in many different ways in my writings, that it is democracy which is causally responsible for the fatal conditions afflicting us now. The number of productive people is constantly decreasing, and the number of people parasitically consuming the income and wealth of this dwindling number of productive people is increasing steadily. This can’t work in the long run."

Hence the cause of illegal immigrants "taking" the jobs of citizens in say, the USA... def a global phenomenon

RE: Obama says Government isn't listening to our phone calls.

The question I always ponder about the NSA/CIA/DARPA spy programs ... so what exactly can they do to a person with information they gathered? Presuming that person is a law abiding citizen whose interests lead them to looking for information via google or to join in discussion groups in forums, or pass information legally found via twitter? So they Bbuild a profile? Then what? Big brother has most everybody's shopping preferences already via those little plastic cards for grocery stores and other outlets that track your purchases. And the surveys you fill out. Some of us have all family members in the big DB due to one family member's activities. My feeling, oh well. I'm not doing anything illegal.

It's one big shopper's mall of mostly useless data, unless you're in the business of selling goods. Living simply avoids that pitfall.

RE: Obama says Government isn't listening to our phone calls.

Why listen to phone calls when they've got Facebook?
Facebook, the CIA, DARPA, and the tanking IPO
Facebook And It's Connections To The CIA And DARPA

RE: A quote by Lao Tzu

(snip)What the great teachers of the past would say today…

Isn’t for them to say

It has been handed to us now: here and now,
To stand up and make our way into truth.

Because we don’t have wings, yet we can help each other fly.

A Personal Tao can be a gift to make a difference.
The gift to simply say: “Hey, just be yourself :) ”.
It’s enough to make one fly.
It’s enough to change the world.(snip)

source:

RE: A quote by Lao Tzu

students and newcomers to the way are often known to pose questions and if in the posing of a question one "violates" some sense of how the water flows, how the emptiness washes over an initiate, how the bowl's rim sings, there is an irony that a violation of one's sense of the way one might follow the path of learning - how does one judge the learning path of another?

(snip)Unlike any other system taught in human history: Taoism accepts no final definition other than the Tao. The Tao by definition is indefinable.

Yet being human, we do define it. Human nature seeks answers and embraces truth towards our place in a seemingly larger universe. We are colorful beings and that means we live to the heart. The human heart leads this journey towards completeness, as each person uniquely finds meaning for their life. (snip)
source:

The rule I found in your comment was that there are certain things one does not do in discussing the Tao. I find your imposition rather humorous for it was a rule imposed. If I read it as a rule it is not because I make a rule in the reading, but because of the way in which the comment was made and I found it to be very similar to the teachings outside of Taoism of other orders.

(snip)Truth and Taoism

Truth is an interesting topic, one which needs to be talked about from several angles.

Lets start here:

Humans love definition. Definition implies we can find an answer for everything. The problem is making the assumption that an absolute truth exists to every definition. This is not the case. Taoism teaches that from human perspective no absolute truth, no absolute falsehood can be defined or embraced by a person. By human nature we are a smaller part of the larger whole. When examining something, looking for answers, finding a statement: every such examination will contain both truth and falsehoods.

Even more confusing, the mixture of truth and falsehood is relative to each observer.
Even more confusing, the mixture of truth and falsehood will shift for each person over time as they change.

So when you look at anything, as a Taoist you accept a view of the world being a mixture of perception. Within that perception there will be elements of truth and falsehood. (snip)

RE: FUTURE OF THE EURO

reminds me of bitcoin... hot fast effective engulfing

RE: A quote by Lao Tzu

this made me laugh. I'm thinking, what a great thread, a wonderful opportunity for people to explore the ideas of Lao Tzu, a safe place to question, to ponder, to awaken... and then...

a RULE is imposed

RE: Enter two words that often go together or work together

ubiquitous influence

RE: A quote by Lao Tzu

Besides reading other texts I noted above - you might try being with people who are already on that path - find a meditation retreat perhaps...

RE: A quote by Lao Tzu

It may also be helpful to read other texts - try the Tao Te Ching, Laozi (Lao Tzu) , Confucius ...

Gotta Love Twitter Tweeters

aha! you got trapped... did I say how I felt about that? No. I just said gotta love twitter tweeters. U still don't know me.

RE: Name a Greek word,which comes to mind, in your own language.

oh, to see that in my lifetime ... what fun that would be - might have some blockbuster flicks!!!

Gotta Love Twitter Tweeters

A must see...

RE: Is Christianity based on Myth? Or did Jesus ever exist?

Truth indeed. All else is still just belief.

RE: The Lord is supposed to return for the rapture when the sun is seven times brighter than normal. Is

You are absolutely correct ooby.

RE: Is Christianity based on Myth? Or did Jesus ever exist?

What if it, this thing people call God, isn't at all what you've been told to think it is?

I mean, why are so many scholarly and historic texts hidden or destroyed? What is there to hide in the vault of the Vatican or elsewhere?

Me, I think "it" is a formless energy that exists between and within each of us. It is not some external being or myth, "it" exists here, now, everywhere. That would explain why psychics/mediums/occultists/readers/and others are able to "see" and relate "events" to the rest who don't have that "gift" developed. And this would explain why the Church is so afraid of telling everyone the real story. They don't want you to know you have the power to do great things (it's a control issue).

Something to contemplate....

RE: Is Christianity based on Myth? Or did Jesus ever exist?

RE: Is Christianity based on Myth? Or did Jesus ever exist?

okay, so, in one of these recent threads on the return of Jesus one stated that there's science proving Jesus existed... they haven't been back to answer my request for that scientific source. An all too common issue with the debate on J - when it comes to real proof there is none. So.... I'm no longer waiting on the science, that'd be like waiting for the return of Jesus. Silly of me ...

RE: Name a Greek word,which comes to mind, in your own language.

these are popping up in other CS threads lately

evangelists!

RE: The Lord is supposed to return for the rapture when the sun is seven times brighter than normal. Is

Still waiting on the science....

RE: What condition will the earth be in when Jesus returns for the saved?

Would love to see the science on the theory... anyone?

RE: What condition will the earth be in when Jesus returns for the saved?

As long as corporations wield more influence over gov than consumers do, there will be no justice for the people. Toluene and Benzene combined are certainly not safe and I certainly won't be holding my breath in waiting on any agencies to be fully transparent about any chems approved for sale without sufficient labeling. As long as the economic factor is involved, US agencies will not be helping citizens, unless that citizen is say czar Jeff Immelt or czar John P. Holdren or czar Michael Taylor or, haha, Twitter's top attorney just appointed privacy czar, Nicole Wong....

RE: What condition will the earth be in when Jesus returns for the saved?

more clarity on this machine - 36" inch commercial mower, the big kind:

RE: What condition will the earth be in when Jesus returns for the saved?

The only way I can explain why I disagree with this assessment or concept of the EPA is by relating my experience with Monsanto's RoundUp and the subsequent run around I got from authorities and the medical system.

In '86 my landscape supervisor showed me how to use RoundUp in the 5 gal backpack sparyer which has a hole int he cap to manage the pump/spray pressure. As I put the sparyer om my back after putting inthe water and the RoundUp, the mix splashed on my back. I said, it just splashed on my back, he said, don't worry about it you'll get used to it. I was young and dumb so I didn't think anything much about it, but it kept splashing on my back as I walked around spraying and I began telling my bosses I didn't like that much, they said, design a system to divert it away from your back.

As a crew leader I didn't really have time for that and all of my other responsibilities. So, about three weeks or so into the stuff splashing on my back I had a wild electrical shock syndrome in my arms form my hands up, painfully strong zaps and loss of strength in my hands. I went to my super, told him how I almost ran down a young tree in the landscape because I couldn't use my hands to shut the machine off and he sent me to the doctor. The Doc said, it looks like carpal tunnel, sent me home, told me to rest for a week. That was a Friday. That weekend I had the most exhausting bout of a crazy full-body bronchial attack that lasted more than week. I wasn't able to go back to work for several months and when I did go back, my hands began acting up again.

Long story short - the EPA found that Monsanto had allowed a rep from Monsanto in the IBT test labs during tests of RoundUp and they found that many of the tests conducted were fraudulent. The EPA tossed out the test results, did not cause Monsanto to have the tests redone and allowed RoundUp to be put on the shelves of US stores with no special announcements about its insufficient testing. Because there was no evidence of RoundUp's seriously foul ingredient on the "inert ingredients" (as noted in a letter to me by the WA state epidemiologist in 1993 or 94) the medical profession's responses were, oh, RoundUp can't do that to you.

It's all documented in an article published in The Progressive June or July 1987. So, I don't have any faith that the EPA has done right by consumers and am not at all confident that they will with Monsanto fully represented in the big house.

RE: What condition will the earth be in when Jesus returns for the saved?

Thank You, Daytona... we can agree to disagree, but it does concern me that you've used several time snow that lake of fire concept. It's really a waste of your typing time since it has no bearing on my reality and only causes me to think you are too caught up in the myth. So, have a great evening or whatever it is for you.

RE: What condition will the earth be in when Jesus returns for the saved?

Well, maybe that Pres ought to have ordered the EPA to wear steel teeth and not be pushed around by corporations who now own them .. cough cough... I was thinking about the vile, mean spirited bumper stickers at the Repug tables at fairs when I wrote that. Just plain mean.

RE: What condition will the earth be in when Jesus returns for the saved?

amazing, there you go again - shame now. whatever happened to respecting a person's right to believe other than what you believe? fitting right into that intolerance mode.

You aren't going to cause me to tremble or feel shame because you aren't able to accept that we disagree.

A poem I wrote some years ago:

Lead me not
Lead me not into your stain glassed
room perfectly littered with circumscribed
pews, ascribed with dead and bloodied
images of one whose Father left Him to
those who kill for power and fame,
putting in motion the endless notion
that might begets righteous claim.

Lead me not into your desolate, and
gilded bloom for hate suffocates those
who subjugate truth for their own -
schilling contaminated words to masses
who believe they know what is right,
for they’ve donned cocked crown
of man’s God in His majestic light.

Lead me not into your Holy House
while blind minions blame and grouse
beseeching thee to come to Thy Glory
of God whose hands lay idle, broken
and loath for you have burned His words
in cruelty.

Lead me not.

I'm not a believer of religious cult rhetoric/propaganda and you will never convince me I ought to be. I don't threaten you because you believe in something I don't believe in. You have not once asked me exactly what I do believe. You seem to think I'm an atheist. Maybe I am, but Maybe I'm Not. So please stop with your silly and empty threats.