Junie is probably an "active avoider" who fears commitment, and Malcolm is her tool to ensure she never has to make one. Malcolm is probably secretly attracted to Junie and merely waiting for her to realize he is "The One." Therefore, of course Junie does not effort to properly balance the male friendship with the male love interests, as the status quo is fulfilling her immediate needs. And, of course Malcolm is going to voraciously gobble up all intimate information Junie provides about his competition.
Of course everything outside is relevant. Of course humans have a more universally accepted defintion of love. Of course it is best to be truthful to ourselves....BUT
NOTHING OUTSIDE ONE'S HEAD IS RELEVANT WHEN ONE IS ALTERING HIS OR HER OWN MIND,
THE UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED DEFINITION OF LOVE IS IRRELEVANT WHEN ONE IS ENGAGING IN ALTERING ONE'S OWN MIND,
WHETHER OR NOT AN INDIVIDUAL IS TRUE TO HIMSELF IS IRRELEVANT WHEN ONE IS ENGAGING IN ALTERING HIS OR HER OWN MIND.
I never stated that whatever exists outside one's head is irrelevant to the contents of one's own mind. I never claimed that holding a false view does not affect one's life. How many warm tequillas did you enjoy? I suggested a single shot - not the bottle
I said that whatever truth exists outside one's mind is irrelevant IN RELATION TO self altering one's mind. Example: When willing onself to fall in or out of love, that individual's definition of love is the only one relevant, regardless of how distorted the rest of the world views it to be.
Now, you know Jeff that I could never allow forum posting to interfere with something as important as costume construction. I am actually waiting for the dealership to change the oil in my car, and the only available reading material is Golf Digest.
By the way, who is Linda? I believe my name to be Saphira, and therefore it IS Saphira.
Apparently I'm not clearly making my point. What constitutes "love" is another subject altogether. I am responding only to the question posted.
The ENTIRE debate about "love" being TRUE or REAL or ABSOLUTE or UNDENIABLE or WARM or FUZZY or RED or GREEN or BLUE, etc., is irrelevant to the point. WHATEVER is in one's head is REAL/TRUE to that individual, and that individual has the ability to alter it. He or she may not possess the knowledge or the desire to do it, but it is possible based on what we know about the human brain.
It is NOT like telling the self that the self can hit a baseball a hundred miles. Hitting a baseball is an act performed OUTSIDE one's head and involves physical conditions/attributes. The TRUTH inside one's head is abstract and extremely subjective. That the world was once flat was believed by many to be TRUE. Of course we now know it was not true. BUT, AT THAT TIME IN HISTORY, INSIDE THE HEAD WHO BELIEVED IT, WHATEVER MIND ALTERATIONS WERE POSSIBLE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL WERE BASED ON THAT INDIVIDUAL'S REALITY/TRUTH/BELIEF, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEIR "TRUTH' HAD ANY BASIS IN FACT.
IF I BELIEVE IT IS LOVE, MY REALITY/TRUTH IS THAT IT IS LOVE. If any mind altering regarding the subject of love is going to transpire in MY head, it is going to be based on what I believe to be LOVE. The actual objective truth or what other's believe is true is irrelevant to the task at hand, i.e., altering MY mind's belief/truth/reality.
WHAT I BELIEVE IS MY REALITY. WHETHER OR NOT IT IS TRUE TO ANYONE EXISTING OUTSIDE MY HEAD IS IRRELEVANT.
BnaturAl wrote: Well ,I think we're closer than your friend just as matter of degrees and defintion. In another thread I was speaking about removing the characteristics of a subject,that that profoundly changes that thing to become something else. It is no longer the orginal subject when we do that. When we start dissecting love or applying 'kinds' and 'sub-kinds' , we have changed the very essence of that love, the subject in this case.
Tangeantial discrepencies never solve the orignal subject when an effective result is required to understand it. Love is generally a difficult subject when it's definition is not clearly defined and accepted as such. Add it's affects as a noun, or a verb, adverb- and confusion is imminent.
Logically, we can effectively stop pinning for someone, stop wanting them as a matter of desire, but I don't see how how we can stop love if it was there. I also don't think we can create love in the first place, it is somehow just a matter of course that we have no control over.
Whether or not love was actually "there" is irrelevant. All that matters is that the individual doing the self mind altering BELIEVED it was there. Love is subjective. Although many aspects of "love" are agreed upon by the masses, each individual applies his or her own details to the definition, such as criteria, characteristerics, conditions, manifestations, etc. Whether or not one's definition of love meets another's does not matter, as any attempted alteration to one's mind is going to be based on what love is and means to that individual alone.
the claim about the human mind having that potential is rather contestable
It is not a claim. It is a fact.
maybe I could be a serial killer if I truly wanted to, but is it possible that I could ever truly want to?
Your desire or lack of desire to be a serial killer is irrelevant. The question regarded whether willing oneself is possible. IT (mind alteration) may not be desirable, but IT is possible.
You'd have to desire something strongly, in other words, to go through the mind-numbing tedium that you describe , Linda, and it's far from clear that it is even possible for you to have that strong desire.
Yes, one would definitely have to desire something strongly to sustain the mental effort necessary to alter one's mind in such a manner. Apparently it IS possible to have that strong a desire, given the processes your friend and other posters to your thread indicated they pursued in their efforts toward mind altering.
The bottom line is that while not everyone will be able to accomplish IT, not everyone will desire IT enough to make the effort to accomplish IT, and certainly many things are never desirable for IT (i.e., serial killer), but IT is possible.
I would much rather discuss what each of us is going to wear for Halloween, but okay...okay....
Your friend is correct because the human mind has that potential. My question is....Why would one want to work THAT hard? There are enough potential love prospects available to negate the need for such tedius mental effort. I would rather spend that energy finding a fabulous Halloween costume.
My fiance has MANY similarities to my fabulous brother, who died in 1999 (same body style, sweetness, interests, sense of humor...) Their birthdays are even 2 days apart. Fortunately, all the similarities are good ones. I recall commenting to friends several times over the years how wonderful it would be if I could find a man like my brother....and I did. Well, I prefer to believe my brother SENT him to me, the clue being that my fiance first emailed me ON my brother's birthday. In my case, I don't find it creepy in any way.
I have 6,000 pieces of antique/vintage jewelry and have been wearing the same pair of earrings since 2001 because too many choices is too overwhelming.
There are situations/people that no other word can more accurately describe. At these times, the F word is absolutely beautiful, and I use it without hesitation or guilt.
If you want to be brave And reach for the top of the sky And the farthest point on the horizon Do you know who you'll meet there Great soldiers and seafarers, Artists and dreamers Who need to be close, close to the light They need to be in danger of burning by fire And I, I want to get there I, I want to be one One who is touched by the sun, One who is touched by the sun
Often I want to walk The safe side of the street And lull myself to sleep And dull my pain But deep down inside I know I've got to learn from the greats, Earn my right to be living, Let my wings of desire Soar over the night I need to let them say "She must have been mad" And I, I want to get there I, I want to be one One who is touched by the sun, One who is touched by the sun
I've got to learn from the greats, Earn my right to be living, With every breath that I take, Every heartbeat And I, I want to get there I, I want to be one, One who is touched by the sun, One who is touched by the sun.
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RE: Name something powerful that a man can do for a woman...
The most treasured gift a man can give me is the freedom to be myself - the good, bad, and ugly.