jbibiza Forum Posts (4,914)

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Now you´re really reaching!!!! My own views on religion would love to support this thread... but sweetie it´s a losing battle!

RE: Help.....

What am I thinking.... I went through this several years ago while I was backpacking around Europe... I was able to travel with the police report until I got back to Scotland, I took my paperwork to the passport office in Glascow and picked up my passport 3 days later on my way to the airport to fly to Singapore.

I can´t understand you having a problem.

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

It´s difficult when speaking in "general" terms to take all of these items into consideration and I do agree with your points. I think the biggest impact that higher education has on marriage statistics is that these people usually get married later in life... at an age where they are more emotionally mature, then kids getting married right out of high school.

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Information was compiled from these sources...


1 “The State of Our Unions 2004: The Social Health of Marriage in America,” The National Marriage Project, June 2004, (18 May 2005).
2 W. Bradford Wilcox, “The Cultural Contradictions of Mainline Family Ideology and Practice,” publication pending.
3 C. A. Johnson, S. M. Stanley, N. D. Glenn, P. A. Amato, S. L. Nock, H. J. Markman, & M. R. Dion (2002), Marriage in Oklahoma: 2001 Baseline Statewide Survey on Marriage and Divorce (S02096 OKDHS), Oklahoma City, OK: Oklahoma Department of Human Services, p. 25.
4 Johnson et al (2002), p. 26.

RE: Help.....

My girlfriend had a similar situation but lives in Spain with a UK passport... she was able to get an emergency passport here to travel back to Wales and they issued her a replacement passport immediately. Maybe you need to go into the office with your tickets?

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Well there was a follow up study within the study and the results shown were that people who were actually religious and followed their faith had more succesfull marriages then those who were merely affiliated with a religion, and age at the time of marriage and financial stress had much more to do with the divorce rates then religion.

Atheists on the other hand have greater percentage of people with higher education, get married later in life and have a higher income thereby making wiser decisions and reducing the stress on a marriage.

So again.... statistics can be used to prove any point... but you need all of the information that goes into compiling those stats before you can make an informed conclusion.

RE: Just a lil info...

Hey BEB... glad you caught it!!! I´ve had a couple removed and had to get additional tissue removed as well, fortunatly mine was a much smaller area then you had to have... still better a scar then cancer!! Glad you´re well sweetie! Good post, hopefully it will encourage others to get checked!

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

oooops that´s CP... Freudian slip?

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Well PC... While the statistics were correct... the religious angle really isn´t the cause. I am totally against organized religion... but in this case religion is taking a hit that isn´t necessarily correct... people in the bible belt aren´t getting divorced because they are religious but rather due to other socio economic situations more prevalent in that area then in other areas in the US.

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Hi Hugs! I guess some people are just into "trial and error"...

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Hi sweetie!!!!

I´m against any more govt. interference in peoples personal lives.... I think the govt responsibility should be in treating the cause... education, education, education!!!!

When people are well educated they, in general, make better decisions and are better able to think for themselves.... oh, but then that´s not realllllly what the govt want´s is it...?

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Well on further reading... it appears that the bible belt has some of the worst education levels and lowest income levels and this seems to have a lot more to do with divorce levels then religion does.

They seem to be trying to treat the injury rather then dealing with prevention with all these measures. If they would put a greater emphasis on education you wouldn´t have kids getting married so young and with a better education... better jobs.... less stress on the marriage due to finances....

RE: U.S. divorce rates for various faith

Taken from "The New York Times"



It has been about four years since politicians here and in several other states began to acknowledge a troubling paradox: The divorce rate in many parts of the Bible Belt is roughly 50 percent above the national average.

In Arkansas, Gov. Mike Huckabee, a Republican, declared a "marital emergency" in 1999 and vowed to halve the divorce rate by 2010. He signed a covenant marriage law last month that allows couples to choose a marital contract that, in most cases, would require a two-year waiting period before a divorce becomes final. Louisiana has enacted similar laws, as has Arizona.

Here in Oklahoma, Gov. Frank Keating, also a Republican, diagnosed divorce as a principal cause of poverty in his state. He started a much-publicized, multipronged campaign, paid for with $10 million in federal welfare money, to cut the divorce rate by one-third in 10 years.

The Oklahoma Legislature, controlled by Democrats, has all but killed the governor's proposals for covenant marriage and the removal of mutual incompatibility as grounds for divorce. But it has passed several of his other proposals, measures that call for creating a statewide network for premarital education and for training secular and religious marriage counselors.

"Seventy percent of our people go to church once a week or more," Mr. Keating said in an interview. "These divorce statistics are a scalding indictment of what isn't being said behind the pulpit."


I decided to to a search on Divorce Rates in the Bible belt.... I kind of doubted what you were saying, but if anything it would appear that the statistics were on the low side... there are pages and pages of interviews, articles, studies all supporting this information

RE: Say a Name and combine it with an Emoticon. No need for words

Have I a new nickname now? I always though of myself more like a mischievous angel... ain´t self delusion grand!

RE: Too Much Too Soon?

OMG... I got flowers from him today... I wonder if I was supposed to be 3001...

RE: Too Much Too Soon?

aahhhh you sure that´s not 1-9'00-YANK-NOW ?

Is Love really so difficult?

I agree with you Hank... I find many people don´t like to compromise or "give in" to their partner. They seem to find it demeaning to put another persons happiness before their own... simple things like going to a ball game with your guy even if you don´t like baseball... it´s a few hours and if it makes them happy, what is the issue, and even more important... that you put a good face on it, there is nothing worse then someone who agrees to do something with you or for you and then acts totally miserable!

Is Love really so difficult?

If I had to contemplate the reality of it... I would most likely have said no. We are both very sensual people and while we are both very comfortable with a bit of a cuddle and kiss, it would never go further for either of us and we would have had to go outside of the relationship to fulfill those desires. I´ve waited 18 years to find the right guy... I don´t see myself compromising that now.

Adoption is still a very difficult option for a gay man... better chance with a surrogate mother, but that can lead to a lot of heart break as well if the woman changes her mind afterwards.

Is Love really so difficult?

Hi Claire! How´s things?

Is Love really so difficult?

Exactly... and so if we get tired waiting for the right one, we wind up in situations that make a successful relationship difficult?

Is Love really so difficult?

Maybe it´s the rushing it that makes it difficult... you´re there before you really know each other, and what you thought was love was infatuation... lust... and when that wears off you´re stuck with someone you really don´t know and don´t love?

Is Love really so difficult?

If it´s the things that revolve around love... doesn´t loving someone make it easier, aren´t you more willing to communicate, compromise... in order to see the one you love happy?

RE: Eat fresh vegies, how? Unless you grow your own it is not possible........

Oh... I thought you meant a different type of NJ strip....


Bottle it is....

Is Love really so difficult?

It´s good when you can look back and recognize the mistakes made... so many people don´t and wind up in the same self destructive circle over and over again.

Is Love really so difficult?

You and Jackson do seem so supportive of each other... and if you love each other I don´t understand why that´s difficult.

RE: Eat fresh vegies, how? Unless you grow your own it is not possible........

Do you give personal demonstrations?

You´ll love the salad five different greens and NO iceberg! First press virgin olive oil & the finest balsamic...

Draft or bottle sweetie?

Is Love really so difficult?

Wow sommer, I can´t imagine you in a relationship like that...

Is Love really so difficult?

I don´t think people have a problem with the give and take it takes to keep a friend or to share a house or apt with someone... it would seem to me that it would be even easier with a life partner, someone you love enough to want to see happy...

Is Love really so difficult?

I expected nothing less from you ship!!!

RE: Eat fresh vegies, how? Unless you grow your own it is not possible........

Of course sweetie... I know you want your steak medium well... now do you want the 250 gm Filet Mignon, the 300gm NY strip or the 650 gm Tbone?

That comes with sauteed garlic mushrooms, fresh greenbeans with pancetta and cashews, and your choice of potatoes gratin or baked potato... and who will be serving you this evening?