I hope we can respect each others view. In Ireland we sometimes use words that may translate differently when viewed in proper english context. A lot of people in Ireland, some not all will say "is" and not "are". My grammar may be poor but i think people a kinda get the jist of what i'm saying.
Can you readed the bolded in your post. May i ask you, what harm am I doing by promoting a little safety on site. Safety that people my use to extend friendships and relationships.
And as for being paranoid, will you tell the families of victims, that have lost loved ones due to online interaction with anonymous people, that they too are paranoid? You will do that? Yes?
Some are just jokers Hugz. Trust me Hugz, neither female or male like these kind of games. Back to the jokers. They sit with their friends at home and rip the piss out of others that use sites like CS and others. They refer to people that communicate online as lozers and possess no RL friends and just basically go out of their way to be a Joker. They get a kick out of it. Its much like a prank phonecall to them.
Some people will deliberately get close to someome and then intentionally let them down. This may be more of a reflection of their life and not yours. Some hurt others cos they were hurt. Ex lovers/partners may find us online and want to hurt us. There are so many different reasons as to why people play sites like CS and others like it.
Others will take revenge on others because of a stupid disagreement in the past.
Scammers will want you to line their pockets with money. A true predator will want to kill you, if he/she can get money too then so be it its a bonus, but they specifically want to murder you.
There are so many other variants I could list but my fingers are starting to get sore...lol
Very true Mercedes, but it is also the responsibilty and obligation of people that have excellent intelligence levels to try to help those that may not think on the same level as that of intelligent people. People that are intelligent are less likely to fall for a scammer/predator but we must at least try to inform others give all people a fair an equal playing field when it comes to online relationships. We must look after our own ie. other genuine users.
You are entitled to think however you choose Mercedes. I have no complaints. However I do have complaints in regards to people who use their intelligence to defraud and hurt others.
Who said I included you in that genralization. Can you point to where I said a specific username? Please, thank you. What makes you think I am including anyone on this site in that generalization? Its obvious you can think for yourself, but do not discredit me that I am speaking for anyone on this site. Do you think that I know of no others online? Why do you assume I am including any CS user in my generalization? I have spoken to others online about this issue. they agree with me, they too think to themselves... "are the people in the photo's genuine. Are they that person in the photo that they pose as"?
What do you feel everything must base itself around you. I offer my opinion and the opinion of others whom I've met online. Who feel the same as me.
Your second statement is good. Thank you, yes you can do however you choose. So can I. So can everyone. I bear no grudges toward you
We are misreading each other sommeraruer71. going by this post you do not understand the reason for my thread.
I asked Dknew to do it, I didnt demand him to do it. If he did do it, brilliant, it is very likely that he is genuine and is here on good intentions. Anyone that posts up a genuine photo of themselves is likely to be genuine.It is the basis of honesty People that do not post up photos are also likely to be genuine. The people that use no photo are not pretending to be others although they could post up any picture they wanted but they chose not too. Can you understand what I'm getting at.
I symapthize with your hard times, I really do. But, no mylifewithut, what you encountered was a professional scammer. A professional predator will abduct and murder you.
Watch both, that is the best advice. Photograph and words. Both.
How would someone else hold up the sign. For a start they would be a different person. A photograph is very very hard to edit. It can fool a lazy eye but not a trained one looking for such. I think you would spot an edited photo. I certainly would and I feel others here would too but I raised this issue specifically for the people who may not be internet aware as you, I or others.. the vulnerable,the lonely, the abused, the mistreated person who may have their judgement impaired by events that they have experienced in their lives. There is a lot of lonely, unhappy people who use the internet in the hope of meeting someone who can give their life back meaning and worth. It is those specific people that the scammer/predator will target.
I have been to many chatrooms and the amount of people reaching out to strangers is extraordinary. These people that reach out are desperate. They are at the end of their tether. They are more impulsive and more willing to take a risk than some of us present on this site.
Hi Mercedes.I feel there are many like us. I think you're genuine but i cannot say for 100% definite.
It would be great to know if we are the person in the photo's. This can be done. All I'm asking is for people to consider it and use it as an option if need be. Genuine people will respect genuine people with genuine concerns. I have no trouble posting up a photograph with words on paper chosen by a female user here. I would get the picture up asap and would expect the same of them in return. Trust and friendship and any relationship should be 50/50. JMO.
A lot of men and some women use a lot of other accounts for harmless reasons. A Jekyll and Hyde personality if you like. These people are normally harmless. They would be very much into laughs and jokes. They may agree with you in one thread and disagree with you in another but they are not out to deliberately destroy your soul.
Some people create two profiles or many more. One with a photo others without. They can choose to be from any location they like. All web sites should match IP with locale. For example I am Irish. If CS check my IP, they will see I'm from Ireland and they can tell that by my ISP provider, probably Eircom but if I claim to be from Canada but yet my ISP provider is Irish then that account should be deleted. I am telling lies, I am not from Canada, my ip matched to my ISP will prove this. But back to your question Hugz,they will sometimes have many accounts and will mail their online partner to see if their online partner respond to all others the same or is he/she responding differently to one of their profiles. It is extremely psychologically based.
Some people are obsessed, they may want someone using the site and have failed to gain the attention of their object of affection [not relating to humans as objects, it is just a figure of speech that I'm using] on their first go so they will restart over with a new profile and target the same person again. These people may be dangerous.
The predator that uses photographs comes soley with the intention of harming you. They too may have many accounts. You may have a lot of friends here but some MAY actually be just one person. The predator will build up trust with you for however long it suits him.It may go on for years. They may disappear and move on to others and not inform you. You wont recieve any more mails from them. It may stop extremely suddenly [also please bear in mind that good people die and circumstances as such are never revealed to us. It is always good to have a plan when it comes to genuine online friends. Tell your families about your true online friends so that they can be mailed in the event of you having an accident or passing away suddenly. It is good to let people know that you're not ignoring them but you have passed over to another place. It is also comforting for your online friend to reach closure much like in real life. Sometimes when online friends do not reply to us, it may be that they died. This is true. We all can have unexpected accidents and it is better to be prepared and have like a will made for the people you met online. People you shared good times and bad times with. They are worthy to know if anything serious has occured to you], But a true predator will be extremely professional and will only ever have to meet you once. The photo profiles on websites allow the predator to scheme their ways into our lives much more easily by posing as genuine people. On the internet there is a lot of personality thiefs. They use your mails to mail others. The can control the flow of the mail by slightly editing words in our mail. It is very common. The true predator in the past suffered from a lack of social skills. The predator has swotted up on his business this past 11 years. They are selective. They do not hang on street corners anymore. Some do hang on corners trying to snare an unsuspecting victim but others come here to CS and places like it and select their victim by height, weight, age, eye color, hair color etc etc. The predator has evolved. They are now selective. They do not choose randomly no more. You will get them in public trying to harm someone but the evolved predator knows that this way is better, better choice of a victim and also it is a safer way for them to conduct their activities. I know its very disturbing and very sad.
Good, listen to your instincts, your gut feeling, this is a really really good defence mechanism installed in us. We do not use it much now due to a so called civilised society. But it is never to late to re awaken this natural instinct.
I'm sorry to hear that you have had trouble by someone who was met online. People can be very cruel and very weird.
Believe me, you have not encountered the true predator.
Yes, of course you can discuss it privately with your friends. There is noone using this thread stating otherwise.
We are all anonymous sommerauer71. I am trying to let genuine people know what other genuine people want to know. "Are you really the person in the photograph?" That is not directed to you, personally. I'm just telling how people genuinely feel when they meet others online. The photo is mportant. Even CS state that profiles with photos get a better response. imagine if a lot of the users were actually the people in the photograph. That would be very positive but not 100% conclusive as to their inner intentions,,but it's a start. A small one but a start nonetheless.
That is what we think to ourselves when we mail someone that has a photo on their profile. I am trying to find a link that allows more genuine people to connect and come together much quicker and much easier. That is what my intentions are, to unite the genuine people and eliminate the scammer/predator.
Thats cool Sommerauer71. We may be misreading one another. I have been on the internet, mainly socializing sites, this past 8 years. Socializing sites include all sites where people interact wih one another via profiles using photos. I visited a few foreign ones where my european friends translated the post to me and for me. I am not internet wary. I am extremely internet aware.
Again, no, that is not 100% factual. They may decieve you and you may not realise it. But for others you will be able to spot them from their words. The professional ones you will not.
Thank you krt4fun. That is my point. I would certainly hope all would of proved that their photo is genuine by the time of meeting.
Please remember, you will only meet a true predator once and never again because after the first meeting you will be dead. The predator is very very VERY convincing.
I don't have trust issues. I have concerns for others that may be reading this. Vulnrerable people who may be reading who may happen to be a member off this site or maybe a person who is not a member but is reading this thread from a public independant standpoint.
People that practise internet safety are more likely to stay safe that those who do not. It is those people who do not practise internet safety that I created the issue for and not people that are well versed in internet safety. Can you understand. Not everyone see things that we see. The people that can't see are more at risk. There are people who will trust more easily, be willing to take a chance quicker that the rest of us. Those people are in a high risk category.
Its not as easy to spot a fake as you may imagine. It can be difficult. This will ring true for the predator. They are extremely clever.
You're very strange, not I, and certainly not this thread. I think you may have ulterior motives. I will not be replying to you anymore. I feel you are making this thread a personal issue against me. I will not allow y thread to descend into a childish squabble with you. Good day to you.
I am not afraid of/or avoiding your posts. I have answered the majotity of them. You are making it personal. I cease communication with you until you cool off a little.
If you don't like my thread, stop posting in to it. Thank you. we agree to disagree. That is ok.
I don't know what you are. I don't even know what you want from me. What is your concerns.If it has anything to do with my other thread then I suggest you speak to the appropriate people ie. THE CS STAFF. Not me. But how can I, me, help you?
Can you show me specifically where i pointed out someone who is fake? I haven't. However, I am here offering advice on how to spot fakes and liars. Do you see my point.
Can you show me specifically where i pointed out someone who is fake? I haven't. However, I am here offering advice on how to spot fakes and liars. Do you see my point.
I want to ask you a serious question. answer it honestly.
What I'm doing here is putting out an idea that may make the site safer. I mean, what harm is there in that. But you seem to want to discredit me and to lead others into another way of thinking.
What have you got against people who post threads on safety issues?
Yes of course fiends should prove who they are and not only that, they should be willing to do so. That is friendship. trust, honesty, respect for the other etc.
I'm interested in why you do not like people posting threads about online safety. Why?
You go out of your way to discredit their emotions, true feelings and intentions. Why do you do this?
I am very glad that you have not encountered the predator. They are realy good. Really intelligent. Really clever. Really covincing. They are masters of the art. They have loads of practise. 11 years of practise be more exact. They are patient. Extremely patient and will wait up to years. They are in no hurry. They never were. Ever.
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In your opinion, how many users on CS are genuine?
I hope we can respect each others view. In Ireland we sometimes use words that may translate differently when viewed in proper english context.A lot of people in Ireland, some not all will say "is" and not "are". My grammar may be poor but i think people a kinda get the jist of what i'm saying.