The Pentagon has been accused of spying on a whistleblower website that specialises in leaking top secret documents. The US Army has already labeled the website as a security threat. Now Wikileaks – which won Amnesty Internationals news media award last year – has issued a statement claiming its editors are being investigated: WikiLeaks is currently under an aggressive US and Icelandic surveillance operation, – the claim published on Tweeter said.
Forget all the self-serving diatribes by Republicans about Obamacare. They are for government enforced health care. “Republicans were for President Barack Obama’s requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it,” the Associated Press reports this morning.
Republicans trumpeted the “obligation” (at gunpoint) that Americans buy health care insurance from large monopolistic corporations for decades, long before Hill and Bill attempted to foist their version on the plebs.
Republican statists view health care at gunpoint as a “free-market route to guarantee coverage for all Americans — the answer to liberal ambitions for a government-run entitlement like Medicare.”
Of course Republicans don’t support Medicare. It does not fit the narrow confines of their partisan political ideology. Medicare was included as part of the Social Security Act of 1965, signed into law by president Lyndon B. Johnson, a Democrat.
Republicans are miffed because Obama and the Democrats co-opted their original concept, minus a mechanism they proposed for controlling costs. Republicans are not opposed to totalitarian care, they are simply opposed to the Democrat version...
What I was saying is that by the way the laws are setup those that do defend themselves with a firearm in Mexico are in most cases charged the same as their attacker.
In other words Mexico has made it to where even if the Citizens did manage to defend themselves from a threat, they fall prey to their own Government for doing nothing more than following the most basic of instincts and human rights.
Handguns in calibers bigger than those mentioned above are forbidden from private ownership.
Examples of firearms that are legal for citizens to own include .380 ACP pistols (such as the Glock 25); .38 Special revolvers, 12 gauge shotguns (no short-barreled shotguns are allowed) and rifles in any caliber up to .30 caliber.
Permits for the transportation and use of such non-military caliber firearms are issued for one year terms by SEDENA (Secretaría de la Defensa Nacional) and may be applied for up to 10 firearms, total, for each designated and planned use that is legally authorized. These uses may include hunting or shooting at a club or national competition. Permits are very easy to obtain, but may be only obtained by citizens belonging to a shooting club.
There is only one legally authorized retail outlet in Mexico City: UCAM (Unidad de Comercialización de Armamento y Municiones), run by the Army and able to sell firearms. It is owned by, and is part of, the government. Although there is no legal limit on how many firearms an individual can own, once any individual has purchased ten firearms from the only retail governmental outlet, he cannot get a permit to buy any more. However, private party sales are legal and are largely uncontrolled, and wealthy gun-collecting citizens thus can legally buy more firearms from other private owners
Article 10: The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have a right to arms in their homes, for security and legitimate defense, with the exception of arms prohibited by federal law and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard. Federal law will determine the cases, conditions, requirements, and places in which the carrying of arms will be authorized to the inhabitants.
This right did not address the right of possession of arms outside one's home.
These rights have subsequently been reduced somewhat through the gradual changing of constitutions and laws. The Constitution of 1917 (Constitución Política de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos de 1917), the current constitution in force and heavily-amended, grants Mexican citizens (and, theoretically, perhaps, all inhabitants) the right to possess firearms. However, this right does not include military firearms suitable for use in a militia, unlike in the United States where the Second Amendment is often interpreted as only protecting arms suitable for use in militias. Although This past year (2008), the United States Supreme Court passed a decision in the Heller case. Defining the 2nd Amendment, the right to keep and bear arms, is the right of the "individual".
any .223 Rifle will land you in prison down there,the laws are so restrictive that they not only ban a weapon by action (Example:Semi-automatic,lever,bolt, or slide action ) type but also by caliber.
What I'm saying is that if the Citizens of Mexico had held onto their rights to self-defense and the weapons to defend themselves ,they wouldn't have to worry about running anywhere,the point is,THEY WOULD STILL HAVE A TOWN.
The point of this thread is to serve as a gut check for those that dream of everybody in America being disarmed.
The above post highlights the fact that if only the law breakers are armed the law abiding suffer.
Oh and that lovely train wreck of thought that "Only the Police and Military can/should be trusted with weapons" I got one for that too.
The situation south of the U.S. Border has seen a large number of Military and Police defecting (If they weren't already corrupt)and joining with the Cartels.
Members of a drug cartel apparently intent on controlling a Mexican border town are threatening to kill residents or torch their homes, forcing some of the residents to flee into Texas to seek asylum, according to law enforcement authorities.
Hudspeth County Sheriff Arvin West said the residents have been told "to vacate or they're going to start killing them and burning their houses down."
Residents from El Porvenir have been arriving at the U.S. port of entry at Fort Hancock, along a desolate stretch of the border about 50 miles southeast of El Paso, over the past week and a half, authorities say. West said more than 30 have requested political asylum.
U.S. officials met with their Mexican counterparts Tuesday to discuss the rampaging drug wars that resulted in thousands of deaths and posed a domestic security crisis for the government of Mexican President Felipe Calderon.
Last week, Texas Gov. Rick Perry ramped up a multiagency law enforcement presence on the border to prevent spill-over violence into the United States.
Rep. Kay Granger, R-Fort Worth, ranking member on the House State and Foreign Operations Subcommittee, said Tuesday that she has helped secure $83.5 million for the purchase of three Black Hawk helicopters to help the Mexican government conduct surveillance.
"This is a very urgent situation," she said.
The Texas Department of Public Safety has been monitoring the situation in the Fort Hancock area since reports of the threats began surfacing, spokeswoman Tela Mange said.
"We're keeping an eye on things, and if we need to take some action at some time we'll do that," she said.
Residents fleeing El Porvenir have given varying accounts on how the threats were delivered, said Lt. Robert Wilson of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department, repeating accounts from deputies who talked to the residents. Some told the Texas lawmen that criminals posted a notice in the town plaza claiming El Porvenir was cartel property, he said. Others said they received letters ordering them out of town.
The residents also differed in describing the amount of time they were given to leave, Wilson said.
Don Reay, executive director of the Texas Border Sheriffs Coalition, said the residents were told: "This is not your town anymore. It is ours."
"In other words," he said, "the bad guys own the town now."
El Porvenir, with a population of at least 10,000, is in the Mexican state of Chihuahua in an area that has often been a battlefield for warring drug factions.
"They're killing people left and right over there," said West, who is based in Sierra Blanca and has jurisdiction over Fort Hancock, which has about 1,700 residents.
Deputy Jake Cabezuela, who conducted field interviews with scores of residents Saturday, said he was told that leaflets had been circulated throughout the town with an "ultimatum," warning of "consequences that would be more than likely death." Some reported that they had been warned that their children would be killed or kidnapped, he said.
"We talked to numerous people," he said. "They all pretty well matched up from the stories we had been receiving from individuals."
Some residents, the deputy said, reported that they had been given 30 days to leave town while others said the deadline was two weeks.
Roger Maier, a spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said authorities have seen "a large number of credible fear requests" this month at ports of entry at Fort Hancock and Fabens but he did not have an exact number.
"We normally do not provide information specific to the names of people or the reasons they are seeking asylum in the U.S. because of the sensitivity of their situation,"...
You are aware that Assault weapons ARE automatic weapons right?
because true assault rifles can fire in full auto (Or Automatic)mode.
I'm a staunch supporter of Semi-Automatic weapons in civilian hands.
no matter the caliber or capacity,I also don't think it's up to me to tell others what should be legal as far as inanimate objects are concerned,however I feel it should be stated that full auto's would cost the owner piles of money (Increased wear on parts,not to mention the cost of ammo alone would run through a small fortune these days).
Death isn't new to me,I received a visit from the reaper on September 12th 2005,I was involved in a head on collision with a car (I was riding a 300 Honda ATV without a helmet) I like to think that I survived due to an even mixture of toughness and luck (But I believe it was more luck than anything else).
I was gone for an estimated 15 to 20 minutes, I wasn't breathing and didn't have a pulse.
Do I want to die?
No because I like living quite a bit,but Death doesn't scare me anymore,I don't look forward to it but I am in no way afraid.
One of the best choices for the Republicans would be Ron Paul,he was the best candidate not because he's white,not because he is a Republican,but because he had and still has a good platform.
He was the best choice in the last election,and would be the best choice in the next election.
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Russia Today Covers Pentagon’s War on WikiLeaks (Video Link)
Russia Today
March 26, 2010
The Pentagon has been accused of spying on a whistleblower website that specialises in leaking top secret documents. The US Army has already labeled the website as a security threat. Now Wikileaks – which won Amnesty Internationals news media award last year – has issued a statement claiming its editors are being investigated: WikiLeaks is currently under an aggressive US and Icelandic surveillance operation, – the claim published on Tweeter said.