Even though President Obama cannot draw a line in the Iranian sand on it nuclear programs. Bibi Netanhyu has. Netanhyu presentation at the UN, showing were to limit the Iranian enrichment process and were it is today.....has to have shocked many in the assembly.
Sure it was a just a graphic that Netanyhu used.....but clearly it had were Isreal will allow Iran to go, before real bombs fall. Natenyhi says Iran is in the 70% enrichment area. 90% is weapons grade isotopes.He wants Iran stopped before then.
Is this not the same that President Obama is saying? 'All option are on the table'. 'Iran should not get a nuclear bomb'. These are Obama quotes on the issue. So why can he not draw the line with Netanhyu?
Well anyways...on Friday Obama and Netanyhu talked on the phone.
Kind of reminds you of the DEMs and Obama saying we are broke in 2008.....does it not? But then suddenly placing the deficit to 16t in the last 4 years!
There is a saying that goes like this...."there are lies, damm lies and statistics" and it is a toss up if it was first said by Mark Twain or British PM Benjamin Desreali
If either would have added 'computer fact checking' to the statement so it read...."there are lies, damm lies, statistics and computer fact checking of them all"....the writer/thinker would be considered a bloody genius today....))
Since when does fact checking determine the truth? We all have sit hours behind these electronic monsters hoping it would churn out a bit of truth. But as my brother says...."garbage in and garbage out". But then we let a fact checker sitting behind the same electronic monster determine this truth for us? Because he/she has 'fact checker logo' in the post, blog, or site.....by God it better be the true, the whole truth and nothing but the truth then!
But let us face it. Today we live in a world were the 1% partial lie is more commonly spoken and written than the utter 100% truth.
I can zero in on a Obama statement made in 2009 (using my trusty monster laptop) and say....broken promise! There is a fabrication because it did not happen. So can the political opponents of Mitt Romney do the same. But drag in the fact checker into the debate, and you have unbaised REF? I don't think so.
Just like that Green Bay/Seattle game ending joint catch. One REF was waving incompletition and one was signaling TD. The REF that signal TD had it right. But the other REF made them all look like amateurs on the field that day. They did not come together as a REF teaming to make the same call. They did not reach a agreement on the play call. I have done some REFFing my day as well. Disagreeing with your partner, is the surest way of getting into a rubbard that I know.
That is how we are in these political debates. They don't join us in any common ground really. Due thinkg all REP fat SOBs that would convlute with the Taliban. Arch right conservative say that Obama is a Muslim that destroy American with one stuck of his pen in the oval office. Both after reading attacks, lies damm lies, and statistics of the other side are ready to throw the damm electric monster thru a window.
To pick out that one "We are sorry statement" in Obama's Cairo address. I had read the entire thing. He was trying for common ground with the Islamic world. To relieve tensions in the world. So I am being fair here. So I cherry picked. So do fact checkers. So did Benen.
One cannot take the inflection of voice, the difference in word meaning from one person to another, the difference in backgrounds or even the sutle bio metric changes that a lie detector uses to determine a lie....all they can do is take the hard sentence structure to compare to a historical net data base....that data base very well might be...... garbage in and garbage out.
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But if you think that the Islamic world is not playing the lies, damm lies game. Read the following;
Jhadist are trying to say Obama wants a religious war with Islam over the movie trailer. I catagories that as one of those "damm lies". Obama wants to relieve the tensions between Islam and America.His Cairo address said that as well. So does Romney. He just has not had the platform to say it. Bt this last 911 of this year, Obama let his guard down. He felt the tensions were easing. He found out the hard way.
FYI To me? A damm lie is any one that will get someone killed.
I went to the Benen site. The very first 'lie' I click on was this statement.
I quote "Romney campaigning in Iowa: When the President went around at the beginning of the term and apologized for America, it made me heartsick." He is lying. The President never apologized for America, Romney know this but he keeps saying it.
From Obama Cairo June 209 address I quote
he is talking about 911
"And finally just as America can never tolerate violence by extremist, we must near forget our principles. Nine-Eleven was a enormous trauma to our country. The fear and anger it causes was understandable, but in some cases, it led us to act contrary to our traditions and ideals. We are taking concrete actions to change course. I have unequivocibaly prohibit the use of torture by the United States, and I have ordered the closure of the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by next year."
Here you have both broken promises, lies and sense of regret to the course the country took during the GWB year. Else why is he taking actions to changing the course?
So? You now have the death of Ambassador Stevens and the SEALs because President Obama relaxed our security on 911 of this year. That was his course change.. to relax these 'tensions'. He spiked the OBL football in the DNC and it was game over. You also have a continued stalemate on the Iran nuclear issue. A troubling issue in the world and with Israel.
The political opposition has a obligation to tell the country were the policies and positions of the party in power will lead. We have been pretty honest in the criticism. So has Mitt Romney. I am not going to go thru all the supposed 533 lies of Mitt Romney in Benson blog. I just did one....perhaps the most important of the issue conflicts between REP and DEMs.
But if you think that Obama's policies and decisions did not lead to the death of a Ambassador and the stalemate with Iran on the nuclear issue....I think that is short sighted. He is CiC and the security level for the country and its facilities around the world are his decisions to make.
Why don't you read the sites you post. I quote...."jobs have slowly trickled back".......it is the slowest economic recovery since the great depression.
Obama has 'tried to recover' the economy. I give him that. Green Bay 'tried to make' a interception the other night at the end of the game. But guess what? Tie catches go to the offense. The intrimin ref had the call right. It was a TD. Obama fails to back the intrimin ref that made the right call.
Obama said they needed old union REFs back. Just because the fan want them. All of Wisconsin and many of the NFL cried for the REP over the ruling. But intrimin REF got the call right.
So he is saying anything to get votes right now.
See the video. Tell me that is not a tied catch. The ball did not hit the ground. It had to be ruled a TD or a interception. Ties go to the offense.
But this take a better hand at the helm. A more experienced one. It takes one that can take China on.....and can make foreign trade deals.Can make the call on a close play. And can tell the truth about a ambassador murder.
Prove my story wrong Dude. I know how our NGA works. I was a "principle investigator" for the NGA. I have seen satellite images and drone image, you would not believe. Face shots. License plates. Inside bedroom shots.
As soon as they had a bird above Benghazi they were taking pics of the compound and sending them to anaylsis. There they use programing to enhance the photos even more. Enhancement programs like the Brits use on facial imagery identification is used. They can get the resolution down to 3 x 3 foot, even less with good light.
The weather the day after the 911 attack in Bengahzi was with out rain.
He knew Dude. No way he would not know. Pretty sure, I got a joint chief fired earlier for feeding him bad intell on satellite imagery. A story I cannot go into. No one is not going to give him solid intell, anaylsis on satellite imagery analysis. It is to easy to screw up your career, if you do.
The FBI has not sent a agent to the city yet to investigate even. 16 days since the attack.
They got video cell phone video of the Libyans showing up to the Consulate after the attack, Dude. They found the Ambassador down and the place on fire. It is all on cell phone video. They came to noise of the guns and explosions...not from a spontaneous protest of the movie trailer.
The President of Libya says it was a planned terrorist attack. They had warnings from Isreal, Libya and even the Ambassador's own words in his diary.
Look.....the place was hit with RPG, Mortars and other heavy weapons fire. Belief it or not. Our satellite imagery will show such detonations marks. They had images on the President's desk within 24 hours if not sooner from the satellites.
Even they say they rushed drones into Lybia. Drone will give you even better imagery resolution that the satellites will. They just put a new top secret USAF spy satellite up. It will give you pics of Harry Ried's bald spot on the top of his head.
They just flat out lied to the American people on the Consulate attack.
How they reacted in 9/11/01 to the terrorist attack. Note the additional security around Air Force One. The phone calls be made and recorded by photo.
Please note they readied Air Force One on every 911 since for hasty exit flight for the President from Washington DC. All of the US military and intell knows that 911 is a critical date for more Islamic terrorism.
The video is of the a retired USAF LT CO that flew GWB on 911.
DEM have a attack ad out on Romney. They say.....he paid only 14% income tax on his investment.....unlike hard working American.
Mitt Romney is 65 in age. Most Americans after age 60 gain most of their income from investments and not work. Only 38% of age 60 and older still work a 38 hour work week. 15.5% work part time after that age. Meaning 62% of this age group is living off investments and gov't programs. Partime 60+ draw social security for the most part.
This shows how little the present administration knows about the greying age issue in the country. They think that you should be doing manual labor until the day you die. They think like the socialists of old....that only physical work merits reward.
Was Einstein's work physical labor? Not hardly. But it had a pretty big impact on the world, you have to admit. Much of that was done as a senior. You hit that magic age of 60, count your ditch digging day's over with. You better have some investment. You better have been responsible in your life to make some wise ones.
They condemn Romney for having 'investments'. Obama has investments. Only he does not have as much to invest as Romney does. Biden has investments. But he doe snot have the money to invest like romney does eitehr. So what? Biden is in the same age range as Romney is. Do you see Joe really doing a hard hat day of work? That is a joke. Do you see DEM condemning their investment or their lack of sweat of the brow?
Don't expect either to sweat unless it is on a golf course.
Joe Biden has bank CDs, He has life insurance investment, He has rental properties. Joe has a bond. Joe has stock in a company. All would be considered 'investment' and 'investment' assets. Joe also have a number of small checking accounts. All under $1000 dollar today. But why so many Joe? Why keep checking accounts under a $1000?
Not getting a response from his closest ally in the world...the US....Isreali President Netanyhu takes his case to the UN on Iranian nuclear weapons. He will now ask for a 'red line' in the Iranian sand.
That is if Iranian crosses it, either UN forces or his Isreali forces can strike Iran nuclear sites.
I really think that the Israeli are practical. They know the UN answer here before they are asking. They have watched the UN Security Council get hog tied and made impotent by Russia and China on Syria. They know that there is a 55 nation Islamic voting block in the UN. They know that odds of the UN drawing this line is pretty thin.
But since the US has virtually abandoned the Israeli to their fate in the world. Netanyhu has little recourse to the request. If he askes the then decides on the uni latoral action on Iran....he can say.....we asked. You did not aid us here, according to the UN mandate to stop wars. So he has nothing to lose.
He also has to respond to Ahmedinejad declaring Israel 'uncivilized Zionist' and 'a illegal nation'. Do the uncivilize ask for a permission for a military response? No. I doubt Netanhyu will call Iran a bunch of misguided Persian religious fanatics. A term, he used only several week ago.
Netanhyu says he will say that he and the US can work together on the Iranian nuclear issue. That might be tested. With the Iranians using the US lost UCAV drone as a model, they now have a UAV that can reach Isreal, a 1000 miles away. Netanhyu, just might think that the US was giving advanced military technology to his worse enemy.
They actually face screaming demonstrators that have weapons and mace in the training. This to see if any will 'lose his cool' by the stress.
They would not even let them lock and load in Cairo. To protect themselves or the embassy staffers.
This is how little trust the administration has for the military that it is cutting funding for. These men place their lives between the rioter and the embassy staffer. Between the sniper and the Ambassador.
Yet the administration did not want them to play a role in Cairo. And if Ambassador Steven was ordered to Benghazi, they took him out of the Marine Guard protection in Tripoli.
The eschewed polls are using model done in 2008. The problem with that is....the economic crash slanted everything. So they are not even using model from the 2010 mid term. Which was a REP/Tea Party land side.
Data was recorded by independent party back when he was in office. Including the FED government.
But 8% or 4.1%.......8% or 4.1%.....8% or 4.1%......yes, 4.1% is better.
If Obamaeconomic are so good. Why did the unemployment rate go above his projected 8.0%?
He says it is because those State and Local government are not hiring. He could have changed that. By working with them on shovel ready jobs. But what does do? Promotes high speed rail. A project so massive and complicated that few state were ready to take it on.
This is poor planning at the Federal level. To find out if High speed rail was ready to zoom zoom at the state level....all he had to do make some phone calls. The governors of the States were it was to go in. They would of told him.
But he cannot even jingle up Governor Scott of Florida to find out.
Now they want us to think he is making all these phone calls to foreign leaders....to clam things down in the middle east and to back Israel's play on Iran. If he cannot call a state governor on high speed rail, he is not calling foreign leaders.
As former governor Sununu says.....he has a lousy work ethnic.
Sununu tells this story. Harry Ried needed to get approval from the White House on Friday evening. Ried goes to the WH. He finds everyone in the WH asleep. He had to wake a staffer to wake the President.
Here are a few more Sununu thoughts on the White House:
Everyone know Reid is a Obama surrogate. So Reid comes out with false story. The WH distances itself. But I bet Reid got a gingle from the WH before he did the lying. At least the President is calling someone.
Well massive and violent austerity riots have broken out in broke Europe. You know that Europe that President Obama likes so much.
Let us see what does the President say about Europe?
"Europe needs a sensible ways to the deal with the debt" and parrallel discussion "to how we develop growth"
So President Obama seems positive to European growth as a mean for getting out its fiscal problems. But when he talks growth in the US......well he is not so much for that. That being one of those REP ideas. His idea is to 'grow from the middle'.
They are sure 'sensible' in Greece and Spain today over this entire thing. Look like Cairo revisited out there. did they try to grow from middle? I think so. All those benefits to the middle class, yes?
It is sad that Europe, with all its potential, history, knowledge, sophistication......has slowing been falling apart. Maybe all that free stuff, did not make the people happy or fulfilled.
LOL.......this time trying to figure out in the book with classified materials in it.....is a ligit read for military and pentagon staffers. They don't mind you buying it....placing it in your book shelf....and even reading it.....but just don't discuss or tweet about it.
It is secret....you know highly sensitive stuff.....that only someone high up should know.
This comedy of DoD response to the book by the Navy Chief, further tell us why political correctness is a bad thing. Come on Mr. Penetta either the author is giving away national secrets or he is not. But then why let people buy the book? Freedom of press. But then why limit their ability to discuss the book? State secrets might be divulged! What about freedom of Speech? Ummmmm.....back to the Constitution we go.
Really what the Pentagon wants here....is to place a muzzle on the DoD and Military....confirming the message inside Mark Owens book. It is bad enough he just blew the official version the bin Laden raid out of the water....sinking the movie version in doing so. But to have parties within the Pentagon to confirm his version of events............means...........well.............someone fabricated that official version.
Then conservative media.....eg. Fox......will digging around to find who and why. That kind of media, the White House and President do not need in a election year.
How bad is the Obama administration relationship with Islamic countries?
It is so bad, they cannot eve work together on common ground issues.
At the UN, Morusi said that Assad needs to step down in Syria to end the violence.The exact same position of the Obama administration. Yet the two cannot agree on any realistic plan to remove Assad.
The Obama administration has so rubbed the Islamic world nose in the bin Laden raid. That many are refusing to work with it. The entire thing of having photos and not releasing them made the question of his death a permanent conspriracy issue on the Muslim street. You needs to know that bin Laden and alQeada have killed 1000s of Muslims. Their families were incensed that evidence of his death were not produced.
Then to use the bin Laden for political means further incensed the viotaile region. Why should anyone think that these protest would not fall on 911? That the protesters are shouting death to America. And are burning US flags. They are not burning image of the movie trailer. Or effigies of the trailer director. Their anger is right at the White House and the American government.
The broken 2008 promise that Obama would 'work every minute' of his administration to achieve middle east peace, has them incensed. Then add in the 29 bin Laden raid football spikes in the DNC was a match that lite the short fuse to 911 of this year. That while some 200 Muslim DEM delegate sat in the stands. 200 that heard the DNC voice role call 3 time on the 'God and Jersulem' inclusion.
Is it any wonder that Muslims are in riot and protest at US embassies around the world?
Dude want us to think that the Muslim world is all warm and glowing to Barack Obama. Well the Muslim world is burning him effigy then. And chanting Obama, Obama, Obama we all are Osama. At the doors of our embassies. The two just don't add up. The liberal left has spun itself into this position.
Thinking that you could break promises and still maintain good relationships. They do here in the US all the time. Why not in the rest of the world? Why would not Islam be so hood winked as well?
Because you have a antagonistic relationship with Islam. That is going to test your word and your actions. DEM says this is because of GWB and his wars. To a point into 2009 that might be the case. But not this last few weeks of death and violence, that is solely on Barack Obama. This is what Barack Obama has brought into the middle east. Not GWB.
From sending mixed signals to Isreal on Iran. To his inability to decide on Assad, Barack Obama has consistently let the world down. The only reason Ahmedinjad has a case in the UN for a 'new world world' is because the helm of the United States was so poorly managed the last four years. Only the Isreali walked out him this year in the UN. The EU ...all of Africa...South America....Asia....the Pacific Rim countries stayed to listen to his message. That helm was in the hands of Barack Obama.
Michele Obama pressed to get lower calorie for school luncheons
But because some students need more calories...if they are athletes.....Michelle cutting them all down to 800 cal lunchs is causing them illness and weakness during athletic training.
You act like Obama's turned the corner. He is only running to first base.
With a 1.5% GNP growth rate, the economy can still double dip in a depression. Many are saying just that is exactly for 2013.
Obama is out of economic cards to play. The FED admits that with this $40b bond buy....that caused the market to fall 100 points today.
With 47% of the country drawing a benefit of somekind....he has made the country into a nanny state and hand out country. Taken away the pride and dreams of millions of Americans. For what?
For a far left ideology that was rejected by Russians in the 1990.
What is one question, you would ask Mitt Romney?
One question you would ask President Obama?
Can you really ask unbiased and fair questions of the two, Dude? Or is the ideology got you so badly that you cannot?
President Ahmenidinjad called the leaders of the west as handmaiden of the devil. I think that includes President Obama.
But the US UN Ambassador and her staff.....sat there like bump on a road.....and sucked it all in. Israel was the only country that left his address.
So one has to ask Ambassador Rice....how does it feel to have you boss....called a handmaiden of the Devil? With such spineless REP of the country at the UN...is it any wonder...that world considers the US a road bump on the highway?
The unrest in the middle east and africa has to say that to any reasoning person. That Ahmedinejad would call for a 'new world order' under President Obama watch should not shock anyone. Obama has bowed down to just about everyone on the world stage.
If elected....Ahmendinejad will get what he wants. Both a nuc and a new world order. He is done in summer....but that is plenty of time to get both. President Obama will be making his phone calls to Russia....to China....to Egypt....to that man in the moon. But to no avail. Like their position on Syria. Iran wins if President Obama is re-elected.
Obama inability to see the Arab Spring, the 911 assaults, the Taliban going after the SEAL TEAM 6, is sad display of leadership. That he misses most of his NSA meetings. Does not read the detailed reports that are painstakingly prepared by the CIA and others.
Tells us only one thing. That his heart for doing security work in the oval office is not really there. Surely this issue of Islamic terrorism is going to be there in the next term.
The slowest economic recessionary recovery since the Great Depression Dude. We can do better than this. Romney will have us economically cookin in a year.
WoW has the President stepped out to lead on this one. With question like....was the Ambassador ordered by Washington to go to the consulate that day security light? Did the Ambassador sent messages to Washington that he feared for his life? Was alSharia there to trade in their MANPADs?
These hard ball questions, the Administration has not yet began to address. But they have told us....that it was terrorism.
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Even though President Obama cannot draw a line in the Iranian sand on it nuclear programs. Bibi Netanhyu has. Netanhyu presentation at the UN, showing were to limit the Iranian enrichment process and were it is today.....has to have shocked many in the assembly.Sure it was a just a graphic that Netanyhu used.....but clearly it had were Isreal will allow Iran to go, before real bombs fall. Natenyhi says Iran is in the 70% enrichment area. 90% is weapons grade isotopes.He wants Iran stopped before then.
Is this not the same that President Obama is saying? 'All option are on the table'. 'Iran should not get a nuclear bomb'. These are Obama quotes on the issue. So why can he not draw the line with Netanhyu?
Well anyways...on Friday Obama and Netanyhu talked on the phone.