RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Preparing the US to spend Tillions at the UN....President Obama goes to the UN seeking help to control the Muslim rage. Opening the door for his most favorite of all time aid programs....the UN Millenium Project.

By asking the UN for help to control Islamic rage.....Obama places the UN in the driver seat to request large aid grants from the richest country in the world.....e.g....the United States.

With 55 Islamic countries voting an a block on any such UN resolution, the only way to pass it with massive spending from the US. That is what the Millenium Project was all about.

Send massive amounts of US aid to 3rd world countries. Also to provide the UN with it own counter terrorism force. The earlier assessment of the Project was 1t per year from the US to the UN for a indefinite period of time. Virtually bankrupting the country to the UN.

A defeated President Obama takes the UN Podium. He relaid on foreign assistance to control the Muslim rage in the world. Rather than bringing a strong US to the confront the issue. Each time, from Egypt, to Lybia, to Afghanistan, to Pakistan that foreign assistance has failed him. He would rather trust foreign parties in these matters than American analyst.

That was his big failure here. It has cost the country in respect and power in the world today.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

A interview with de Sousa the director of 2016:Obama's America

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

The Chinese made their aircraft carrier ..'operational'. The Liaoing became operational as the South China Sea dispute over the islands heats up.

Japan without a aircraft carrier, has little to meet the Chinese with if this turns hot. China will have air dominance in the South China Sea area. Unless the US sends in a Carrier from the Pacific fleet, the Japanese are out gunned.

So expect the Liaoing to soon make a sail into the disputed waters.
With the a Carrier Battle fleet based in Japan, will the Obama administration send it to the south? If it does, will the North Korean begin to sink South Korean navy vessels again? Or shell some SK realestate? One of the things, I have learned....you cannot be in two places at one time.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

To say the least.......



With the foreign policy record that President Obama brings to the UN, it is a wonder that the UN delegates will show up to listen to him. These are career diplomats, they know the difference between the real stuff and the bouncy fluff.

The big air cushion of the Nobel Award days are over with. The reality set in the last 12 days to what the world is like. What ever air mattress for soft landings that the President had early in his administration is gone with the violence in the middle east and Africa.

Sadly, he was not ready for it. Not for the crash landing or the violence. On a 911 anniversary, our embassies were not prepared for the coming protest. Our Ambassador had minimal security. That is 100% his baliwik of job assignments as Commander in Chief.

What ever good that might come from the tragic events of 9/11/12 have to be framed into the simple fact. The administration ignored warnings of the Ambassador, of the Libyan FM, and of a Israeli newspaper...that bad things were planned and were going to happen.

He blew it and he blew it bad. It was just a simple phone call to make to get additional security for the Cairo embassy and for the Ambassador. But it was his phone call to make. It was a phone call never made. Whether he was to involved with reviewing attack adds to throw at Mitt Romney, or in scheduling the View or in making a trip to Vegas for a rally, I don't know.

There are times, you got to stop being the hero President seeking votes at all cost and do what is right for the people working under you. For their safety and their lives. They work and live in the real world of alQeada extremist. It is not make believe or Hollywood.

That he can call these events....road bumps......I thinks tells us lot.
The comment was made the day after 9/11. He was already trying to minimize the damage done the day prior. alQeada reached out on 9/11/12 and hit you with a right cross. Just like you hit them on the bin Laden raid. This is a real fight. They are not quiting. But we think that you are.....with your withdrawal and your empty promises.

That compound was easily defended if it had enough people inside to defend it. I have looked at the compound on satellite imagery. It had inner wall around the main building. It has security gates at both enterances and it had a perimeter security wall with clear fire zone in three directions. The three directions that they came from.

The main building itself was thick walls with little windows. Again easily defended, if there were enough people to do so. Two large Libyan military bases were only 1/2 miles from the consulate. A single phone call should have brought help that night. But had the President done his job with a single call, they would have been able to defend themselves that night.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Seems Morusi and Egypt successful got a increase to their US Aid from the Obama administration..........



Not only does the President meet with the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House, we give aid to a new anti American regime that harbors little love for Americans.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

The hard line questions are starting to come on the Ambassador Stevens death.....

was he ordered to Benghazi, if so what was his mission

he reported in his CNN diary that he was afraid that he was on a alQeada hit list......was this passed on to the Administration

why was the consulate security so thin

why was there no fire fighting gear at the consulate




RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

President Obama has four of these.....

One for Iran

One for Syria

One for Russia

One for China

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Syria may have just stepped across President Obama line in the sand.
Seems some are showing signs of WMDs exposure in Lebanon.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Big deal. Here is Obama and Bidden slithering in opposite directions!

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Iran after threatening to eliminate Isreal...now threaten to attack US Middle east bases. This if Israel does a pre emptive strike on Iran.

So?

We might as well draw that line in the Iranian sand. If fact draw it deep and permanent. If Iran is going to attack us anyways with any military operation from Israel.....what is the lost to drawing a line?

It is like telling the school bully. Steal my friend's lunch one more time, and ten of us and going to pound your head some.

Look why take guff from Iran? What makes Iran so special? It runs a horrible democracy. It export revolutionary Islam. It support Islamic terrorism. GWB called it one of the evil axis.

President Obama is letting this country gain regional power. From Iraq to Egypt. From Pakistan to the Sudan. President Obama has let Iranian sponspored protesters take down US flag in 4 embassies. What a shmuck.

President Obama has gotten scared of Iran rhetorics is all I can think.
They flash a pic of his lost UCAV in Tehran at Freedom Park (they also have the parts of Carter's failed mission of C-130s and C-54 Helos there).....and he turns into Jimmy Carter reincarnated.....WEll we messed up that military operation on Iran. No reason to try another one. Cannot draw the line in the sand with Israeli.

Look Mr. President this tough stuff. These guys are not going to quit.
You either gets some khonies and some spine, or you are toast in this area of world. They are burning you effigy....in Sri Lanka!

Fine don't care about yourself. Care about the Americans forces in region. Think that they like seeing you burned effigy? having our flag pulled down? a ambassador dead? They don't. I assure you. Do you really think playing this calm and cool is going to keep them from being attacked? It ain't. It just says, we are weak and you can beat up on us.

Take frigin Amhmendinejada on in the UN. Be a American President with some fire in his belly from someone out side of the country for a change. Pin the tail on the Iranian for change. The world is more than happy to believe it....because it is true.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Sure I got something to say. Statue of Limitations.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

One Ambassador dead, 3 SEALs dead, protest now from Athens to Indonesia,
insider attacks stop Afghan training, 4 US Embassy flag replaced with alQeada flags, dozens of intelligence operatives were compromised in the Benghazi attack and had to flee the country .......these are to President Obama? Road bumps!!

That is what he said. Just minor glitches. No big deal. A hiccup.

Amazing. He is either so out touch with reality of what is going or he is in wishing and hoping land.............come join me Dorthy and Toto.

How many times has the Lybian attack story changed? I have lost count.



Anyways......the world wanted a American leader in 2008. It got a road worker that can fix road bumps and pot holes.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

I have tried to explain this to you for the upteen time. We have a three tiered government system here. Each has its own taxing abilities.

Local.....by sales tax and properties apprasials. (police and fire and schools)

States....by sales tax, fees and some income taxes (higher education and state roads)

FED Government.....by incomes tax of person and corp (military and FED government programs)

So Obama pay 20% IRS tax rate. how does that make him "honorable"?

In his 68 years, Romney has paid many times into the FED government than Obama has. And his Bain Capitol paid millions more in Corp taxes.
Does that make him 'more honorable' then?

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Ever hear the saying...."numbers don't lie"...."number are their own logic".

The graph compares the non defense spending of the last four administration. Obama non defense spending 2 and 3 times that of the other Presidents. But he has the highest unemployment rate and the lowest GNP rate.

Those are the facts jack...he had the check book and the steering wheel. He wrote the checks and tossed them out the window as he drove the car to fiscal cliff. Hummming....."Hail to the Chief".....grin

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

President Obama has so messed up the economy and state and local governments.....that their hiring will be down to 2017

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

We have his taxes Dude. They satisfied our IRS. Prove that he has hidden bank accounts.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Here is the man that is giving Preisdent Obama his "space" in the middle east.

We all know how close Putin and Ahmendinejada are. We also know the in President Obama open mike moment with Medvedev he "asked for space".
I think he was asking for space from Ahmenidenjada. He was using the Russians as a back door to the Iranian leader.

Well there are Iranian finger prints in the Embassy protest. In the Ambassador murder.....and now this.



The Iranian leader says...."Israel will be eliminated."

This is clearly a gauntlet thrown. The reason it is thrown now? Because the Irainian know this election is going badly for their man in the White House, President Obama. Netanyhu had every right to ask 'his closest ally' in the world for a line in the Iranian sand. The Iranian man in the White House turned his back on him.

The President mis calculated. He felt he could trust Putin to deliver him some space. Instead what he got was global Islamic protest over some 6 week old movie trailer and a dead Ambassador.

Even though the UN Sect General asked for restraint rhetoric because of the violence. That did not stop the Iranian President. He now swing at the jugular of Israel. A Revolutionary Guard General is talk about how a Iranian infantry brigade can slice across the country in only 23 miles.

What does our leader say or do? Nothing. He plan to apologize for the movie trailer again at the UN.

Weakness in our military or in our stand with Israel, is not going to make peace in the region. History has shown time and again such weakness is the cause of war. From Chamberlin to Carter political weakness with dictators has led to war and violence. The reason that Carter was beaten by Reagon....his weakness over Iran's hostage taking.

Putin/Amhmenadinejada have shown Obama to be weaker than Carter. Carter only had one country (Iran) in protest. Obama has a dozen.
That Obama cannot draw that line in the Iranian sand.....was a true sign of weakness. A weakness he needs to live with and face.....

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

A reason we don't need to be in the middle eastern countries....



Thought the present administration keeps saying to us..."we need to be engaged"..."involved"...."supporting"....in these countries. What they really mean to say 'is that they need to spend money in countries that hate us." We have the military resources to operate in the region but outside of their countries.



Almost 2/3rds of all US aid goes to Islamic countries. Most of those 55 vote against is in critical UN votes. Think any of them would support a UN resolution to place UN troops into Syria? UN Ambassador John Bolton recommended a long time ago to end aid to the 30 countries that consistently failed to vote with us in the UN. Most of the 30 are
Islamic countries.

This is dropping uncovered money in to a hole. Burying it. Walking away for 5 years and coming back to hope that the money has not been consumed by worms.

Wakey wakey. There are 1.5b Muslims in the world and in these countries. The US cannot support their governments, their peoples needs, or their hating of Americans. But the present Administration thinks that it can.

The choice is clear. Already Obama has placed $50,000 of debt on every new born in the country. Do you want him to also place future debt on them that goes to the new born of the Islamic world? Or to have those resources for our children here?

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Here is nice multi site of unskewed polls

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

I got to admit....this middle east peace thing was to tough for Obama. He is just not the man cut out for the job. He wants to be liked and respected.

But when.....



when you get 1.5b Muslims with signs....saying "Americans we are going to Kill you". For a man like Obama it has to hard to take. He like to be liked.

He says to them....'there is no justification for violence and for killing Americans'. They say to him.....'Obama, Obama, Obama we are all Osama'. He says to them. "We are sorry for the video". They say to him...."Death to America"

This clearly is a case of miscommunication. One side of the communication is in one track mind set.

But with all this talk of killing and death, you would think as POTUS and Commander in Chief of our armed forces, President Obama would be pressing Congress not to sequester DoD spending. And Because 1000s of DoD contractor jobs are on the line in economy of 8+% unemployment.

Wrong.



The administration is thinking...."they want more time". Sequestering is time function deficit agreement. If not done by the end of the year....a mandatory 9.4% cut in DoD funding for the next 10 years.

Even with Penetta saying this is National Security disaster in the making.

How often do you Penetta and Rumsfield agreeing?

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

You are 100% wrong.

It is not a collect agency. Police and Fire department do not get much FED funding if any all. They get state and local funding.

The principle mission of the IRS is the following:

Provide America's taxpayer a top quality service to help them understand and meet their tax responsibilities and enforce the law with intregrity and fairness to all.

The IRS is a government service. Not a collection agency.

The IRS can only file mis claim against a business or individual for a certain period of time....7 years. And it assumes that a filing is accurate unless "facts" warrant different.



In other words....like all US government agencies....the IRS assumes the person to be innocent until proven guilty.

This is a very big different between European governments and the US.
There you have to prove your innocence. At least in the UK model. Here innocent until proven quilty.

Obama and you....are not giving us any facts to Romney's tax filing to make us assume they are even in error much less criminal . Better hire a first class CPA....at $200 to $500 per hour.

I already should you were Obama tax forms with in error.....that CT Social Security number he used.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

I think that the media...specially like the liberal media like to cause problems within a cmapaign. It makes more to print and talk about.

Such is the recent media stories n the Romney campaign needing a turn around.

Romney is not buying it.



The liberal media did this to McCain in 2008 as well.......



It is the same story line that the liberal media used on McCain.

This is were the media stops being a new reporting organization and they become a new making organization. Liberal media get so little right, it considered more a a big gossip club in some places. One give a story line.....used in the past....to a liberal collague and he/she writes it up. It made the print or camera in the past. Why not now?

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

LOL.....we are going all the way back to Joseph Smith and early Mormonism to find something on Mitt Romney?wow doh rolling on the floor laughing

That is like saying.......Obama's fore Keyan Fathers were so anti British that they ran with the Zulu's at Roukes Rift.....LOL ...we both know that did not happen.

But what you say....to Obama running a government that is twice the size of Clinton....with twice the amount of unemployed, social security and other government benefits.....and only having 1/2 the number of prosecutions for fraud the Clinton did?

Here is a easy graph to read comparing non Defense spending by the last 4 administration. Please note the Clinton years is declined. In the Obama years it went thru the roof.



Smaller government=a growing economy

Clinton grew his economy at a 3.8% GDN growth rate.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Did the marcher hand any of the Salafist or alSharia group that murdered Ambassador Stevens to Libyan government? No. What you had was 50 different tracks in the Libyan sand headed in 50 different directions.

They will just reform someplace else. But now they going underground wit new names and identities....like from the money paid by Iran's Libyan alQeada to do the hit on the complex.

They had plenty of time to flee their Benghanzi headquarters. Dude.
Unlike our embassy staffs.... they can flee.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

But it is OK for you to come into our politics? Come on Dude. You play here as well. You have no chest nuts in the American fire or issues, so to speak.

Netanyhu represents the Jewish people. There are 6 million Jews in the country. He more right to play in the politics of the country than you!

All he wants was a meeting with Obama to clarify when a military actions on Iran would be OK. Obama stiff him for Whopie Goldberg and the View.

According the WH press secretary that line is Iran 'getting a nuclear weapon'. Netanyhu Mossad's intelligence says Iran will have one in 6-7 months. That is 'getting a nuclear device.' Or pretty close to getting a nuc, in my book....))

When Iran dust off Isreal with that nuc....how many touristing Americans do you think will be there? Weekly about 12,100 Americans visit Israel. Consider many of them toast.

So having a hour with Whoppie ..is likely some votes in November. Stopping Iran from a nuc, is some American lives. The P5+1 has failed and so have European sanction in stopping Iran in getting a nuc. Or had you not noticed?

With Putin backing Assad hand in Syria....he is not going pressure Iran to stop a nuc program. Nor is China. Iran is shruging on the EU sanctions. Netanyhu is being honest and responsible. Gesh all he wants is hour of the man time for world peace.

You would think Obama might find it in his stressing and busy schedule.

Maybe it is Obama that wants a middle east war. Ever think of that?
Why? Well war cover the mistakes of adminstration. The media is focusing on war stories....and the President become a "national leader" of heroic proportions. Very Stalinist, you have to admit.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Put the shoe on the other foot. In 2007 if Bush has 'inspected' Obama tax returns and found a error....and brought him under a IRS investigation....you would call that classless.

You say what error?

I say a social security number from Connecticut.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

See what that iPhone that you want really bad is doing in China!



Please note that they have 5000 employees in a dormitory setting.
Kind of remind one of the Corporate Towns of the US..........

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

At least is was not a apology. President Obama thanked President Morusi for protecting the US Cairo embassy. He also said Hillary would send the check later for the costs of the security protection and the damage done to Cairo.

That is really how this works.

Hillary is now driving around Washington getting support for more aid to Egypt. They riot and protest. We pay.

That is because of two things.

1) Americans are a peaceful bunch and we don't like to see violence.
2) We fell a obligation because our embassy is at the center of the violence.

So I say this.

Wake up. It is Egyptian Muslim Islamist were and aare doing the rioting and protesting. They are part of Morusi's base in Egypt. It is very unlikely that Morusi did not approve the protest. Heck his FM gave us a warning of them 48 hours before they happened.

Don't feel obligated for what others do. The movie trailer was made in the US, but the American public had no say in that and rejected it when presented here. If they get angered over it and protest. The cost is their to bear for the clean up. Not ours.

Hillary should not be running around Washington collecting coins for a country that just struck the US flag at a embassy. It sets a very bad president. You are rewarding a country for failing to protect your embassy, Mr. President. Mosusi security for our embassy melted on the first day.

But seems the President forgot that part of this.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

The UN General Sect has 'requested' that Iranian Ahmenajada keep his rhetoric toned down. I say good luck with that........



I wonder do they have a floor drop (like a gallows drop) behind the UN Podium? If so when so many of the UN General Assembly hit their buzzers. The floor drop will open, and Ahmenajada will just fall away.....it is easier than walking out.grin

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

The US Gov't had prior knowledge of the coming Libyan attack.

From at least two sources. First one was a Isreali source. It was in a Isreali newspaper that 'some kind of attack was going to occur on the US in Lybia' That a week prior to the attack

From the Libyan foreign minister.....several days prior to the 9/11 attack...he warned that some attack in the country was imminent.

This according to Huckabee tonight.



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