Obamacare: The end of the DEMcratic party of the US?

This is at the center of the ACA problem.



In 2007-8, DEMs saw the rising health care cost in the country. It scared the begivers from them. Healthcare to the DEMs is like the holy grail of issues. If the cost is beyond gov't control, then fewer low income (e.g DEM supporters could have it).

If the cost of American health care rose to being unmanageable....were they could not get their greedy little fingers into the pie so to speak. They were in big trouble. Unions would stop sending them big donation to run for office. They would lose votes because of it.

Hence the President begins his assault on the status quot health care system and the push for the ACA. Over 200 times in his campaigns, he spoke on it. His mother died because she did not have insurance to cover her cancer treatment. A lie.....but a good story. 100s cried when he told it over and over again.

DEMs have done exactly what they did not want to do. Increase the cost of health care insurance for the individual.

Here is elderly woman and is paying $276 monthly for a private policy. Sipo..Zapo...the ACA comes to town. Her low cost policy is cancelled. She is now looking at a ACA policy for $415 per month. Now she HAS to be on the gov't role to pay for health care. But how much of the increase will the gov't pick up? Your guess is as good as mine.

This entire idea, that the individual needs the state....that the DEMs are pushing here. The big guys in the DEM party don't care if this woman is paying much of her social security for health care insurance. They had to smooth out the ACA with the insurance companies to get it passed in 2009. All those backroom deal remember?

Would the insurances companies rather have a $276 or a $415 per month polices. You betcha, they want that big dollar premium policy. That is being forced by the punishment taxes of the ACA with the help of your friendly IRS. That was the deal when the ACA was wrote.

It simply did not matter that the little old lady was going to be paying more for health care in the future. A lot more.

It is also a way to do wealth redistribution in the country. See with medicare being stripped of %650b, the ACA could now supplement low income Americans with health care. It does not matter that those elderly medicare policy holders had paid all their lives into medicare and it was a promise of the government for them.

The Obama campaign had found a new voter supporter blocks for the DEM party.....and these low income supporters needed something for their votes. Hence supplemented health insurance from the ACA. I will not say the words 'buying votes' at this point. But if it fits......

Still the DEMs have not gotten to the heart of the medical cost crisis in America. Just raising premium rates is not going to put more money into the hospitals or medical research or new drugs. Here is where the real rising cost are.

The newly wealthy insurance companies are going to simply hoard the new premium income. Remember the banks during the bailout? What did they do with the bailout funds? They hoarded bailout funds because of the political insecurity in the country. Insurance firms will reinvest premium funds into the best investment the can find in the market place.

If you ever saw a animal in a wire snare trap.....that is where the DEMs are today regarding the ACA. It is not a pretty sight. They passed it, they wrote it. they signed it. They own it. President Obama owns it as well. DEMs are going to knawning off their limbs to escape what is coming regarding the ACA.

The 12 DEM senators and the 38 house DEMs are only the beginning of this DEM limb chew. You have the DEM State legislators and DEM governors that all supported the ACA as well.

When those little old ladies start to pound on the doors of Congress....State legislators and Mayor offices for relief from the ACA. DEM fur is going to fly.

Obamacare: The end of the DEMcratic party of the US?

Let me try to 'update' with the ACA happenings of the day.

First we have this article from the WSJ on the 12 DEM senators that voted for the ACA and now are doing their version of MJ's moon walk to get away from it. The number of DEM senator up for reelection in 2914 is 16. So 12 are feeling the ACA heat so to speak. To gain control of the Senate, the REP only need to gain one seat.



Now we have a major health care CEO...saying the the website rollout is only the 'tip if the iceberg'. As in the tip of the iceberg that sank the Titantic.

Bill George of Medontic is saying that the website will not be fixed by the end of the month. Also that there are some security holes in them. Consumer beware, every hacker on the planet is snooping into the ACA site for personal ID data.

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Then we have my favorite of the day. The first dog was enrolled in the ACA in Colorado today. Hey if they can vote, why not let them have some health care at the expense of the tax payer.

Baxter the long shady hair friend of Shane Smith was enrolled in the ACA. Congrats go out Baxter for his new status of having his own OBamacare policy. All his warm nosed friends on the block will be jealous.

is very cute.

Now some would say.....this could cause the DEM and their avid followers some heart ache and even some indigestion. But no. Liberals see the entire thing being a problem for the REPs.

First we have this White House report. It says that the ACA is bending the health care cost down.....

Now from what I am reading of the premiums prices of the ACA policies they are 40% to 60% higher than the commercial policies. So how this magic of accounting is being done, has yet to be explained to me.
But here is the White House report. Ah the magic of numbers........



Jon Terbush says that Senator McConnel (R) has a Obamacare conundrum....I know...I like typing out the fancy words as well. Jon says that since KY, home state of the Majority Leader being one of the leader in ACA enrollees, will cause McConnel heart aches at the poles.



We have this piece from a DEM strategist on h ow the DEM can make the ACA into a REP night mare. Robert Creamer is saying basically that the Americans will love Obamacare and will simply hate REP for trying to take it away from them. A little simplistic on my part.....but I like to get the heart of the matter quickly.



More to come.....because the ACA is the DEM gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving.....just like the energizer bunny.

RE: What is the US preparing for on October 1st?

Now that we are at October 17th......I am going to give my two cents to this to why this happened.

The Obamacare roll out.

The Administration was totally unsure how the American people were going to take the roll out of Obamacare. Would they go into the streets and riot? Would they follow the Tea party leaders in breaking down the governments? These were the unfounded fears of the present Obama administration.

All BS and fabricated for media and world speculation.

No riots occurred. Senator Crus shut down the government all by himself.

With Obamacare failing miserably on its own....conservatives and Tea Party people really did not not need to do much of anything. The roll out has been for 2 weeks. The enrollment numbers are so few...that the Administration will not tell us how many did enroll. But the best guess estimate....is a platry 7m did. In President Obama's home state of Illinois....7,000 enrolled in the first week. You can get more to a High School football game on Friday night!

Were are those 43m Americans without healthcare? What about all those condition to not getting health care? They should be jumping on this program! But.....with the Government's website shutting down down on a very regular basis....they cannot get enrolled. Now here is the secret.....the prices of the Obamacare health insurance are about 2 times the price of commercial health insurance prior to the ACA being enacted.

A Forbes article is saying that every time a person comes to the prices section of the site.....it fails. It crashes the entire site, hence the problems getting enrolled.



It is only beginning. Already my mother received a letter from her Doctor.....as of March of next year....he will not accept any form of Medicaide payment. It is just complex to process theu the government
bureaucracy made by Obama care. Other Doctors are dropping out of practice completely....they simply don't want the headache of dealing with both the Federal government and State government to get paid.

Conservatives told the country and the world that this was going to happen.....back in 2009 during the health care debates. I posted it many times here in Connectingsingles......but ah no.....America has to be like Europe. Well it ain't kids. We have 312m people under one flag here.

Today with Obamacare rollout.....we see the worst in Big government. meddling into a doctor offices to make sure of treatments. Failing to keep a candidate promises made during a election. And worst of all....making a new way to scam the system. Political payment offs
Preisdent Obama supporters....who are now 'navigators' into the complicated health care system. Paid by Federal grants of course!

RE: No War on Syria! U must be joking.

I think that I would call this 'admission of having Chemical weapons' by ASSad. If he did not have them, how could he surrender them to a 3rd party? LOL..........



The 200,000 litre of agents was a number I picked up in a news report.

Luke 23:24 "Jesus said, Father, forgive them. Then know not what they do."

RE: No War on Syria! U must be joking.

Del Ponte is a paid UN beuacratic. Paid to try to keep the peace. So she says.....A US strike will not work on one hand....while on the other hand....her own UN investigators came back with a near air tight case that it was ASSad that did the agent strike.

So we have a UN bureaucrat that stares at the evidence of a WMD attack that killed 1300 people. Says to her self....I cannot do anything about. I don't have that kind of authority or abilities. Why should the US be able to do anything about it? I am the UN!! The US...you know the country that had 911. That did the Iraq invasion. Yada yada......

Which plays into today Putin's New York Times Op-Ed. Were he questions now Only President Obama's abilities. But the abilities of the American people.

First of all. Del Ponte does not know all the American military abilities. Nor does Putin. Oh they will tell that they do. But believe me, our arnesal today is much more complex and sophisticated that even 5 years ago.

Let me explain it this way. What has the United States been doing in its military? Increasing forces or decreasing them? Answer is decreasing them.

Now you can say....that is because the US is broke. Or you can say the US has developed new weapon technologies that allow a major force reduction. We only force reduce in this world when we have developed new technologies to make our force more effective.

I think Syria, Russia, and the world is for a big surprise.....yes even
Del Ponte. It ain't going to be 100 cruise missiles kids.....like in Libya.

By the way here is another source of ASSad weapons


Yep....Iraqi Air Force General George Sada says Sadam shipped WMDs to Syria prior to the Iraq invasion of 2003. Sada was number 2 in the Iraqi Air Force. How about that?

RE: No War on Syria! U must be joking.

And the delivery systems of the agents? All Warsaw pact.....many likely to come form Russia. SINCE Russia gives ASSad 5 Billion per
YEAR in weapons!

ASSad been holding up the entire Russain military industrial complex for years with his purchases.

As for as 1 drop of SaRin missing from the Russian stock pile.

The US since 2011 has said that Russia not only has hidden chemical agents.....but entire chemical agent manufacuturing sites that are hidden.

80% of Russia chemical agents is nerve agents (e.g. Sarin is a nerve agent).

In April of 2012 Russia missed the deadline of a destruction program
of it agents.

A final quote from the global security report:

"The Russia Federation is home to 40,000 tons of the former Soviet Union stockpile of chemical weapons- CONSISTING of a DECLARED stockpile of 40,000 metric tons of Chemical, nerve, blister and
choking agents. While some think that the stockpile is really in excess of 50,000 metric tons."

Gee I guess they lost that drop of Sarin in the missing 10,000 metric tons of agents.....



See ASSad is the small player in this. His 200,000 litre of agent is a drop in the big Russian bucket. And Russia wants the world to get Chemical weapon happy (e.g uses them).....so it can sell that giant inventory of agent and make some rubles from it. If Russia can get the Arab Spring countries dropping ....sprinkling a little sarin here and little sarin there...your missing drops. Or the missing 10,000 metric tons...Putin's wealth grows. So does the 32 billionaire in the Kremlin
that he made.

RE: No War on Syria! U must be joking.

I mention those number on Mao and Friends to show how bad it get when a government decides to kill its own people.

So returning to Assad and friends....say he gives up his now admitted 200,000 litres of chemical agents (Gee here I did not think that he had any) to the UN.

What is to stop him from say buying 400,000 litre of chemical agents from his friendly Russian arms merchant, sent to him by his best friend in the entire world....Vladimir Putin?

Assad's chemical agents give him the ability to kill faster than Mao ever did. Kill those children and women and elderly that were going to force him from power. Yea sure. Those children in Damascus never did a thing to Assad. Except to have parents that were Sunni. And because Assad is on a ethnic cleansing program.....my prediction is....he will not give up his agents. Even if his best friend in the entire world, President Putin asks him too.

RE: No War on Syria! U must be joking.

Is Generalissimo prefect in his government? No. But compared to Mao and friends he was a nearly a innocent baby. How many years did it take China to get a election?

The first local election in China post WWII history were done in 2012.
WE are not talking about the Communist party.....which does not have the word Democracy in its founding documents. We are talking about election for a village mayor or secretary of the school board.

Since you will not accept links of historical value and academic standing. It just goes to prove that you will make history up to suit your own position. So keep your self formed opinion without little merit or accuracy, to yourself.laugh

RE: Football will England ever win tee world cup again?

Here is a prediction. The US will win a World Cup before England does.

In a clean 2-0 win over Mexico the other night. The US men's team qualified again for the Cup.

Go USA GO USA....

RE: No War on Syria! U must be joking.

The other guy was Chaing Kai-Shek....the Generalissimo. He reunited the country from 36 War Lords. Several of them had backing by the Japanese.

Then started a government that bringing China out of the dark ages and 1000 years of poverty. When the Japanese sent 4m men into China at the start of WWII. Raping his capitol City of Nanking....because he had driven them out of Peking earlier.

Then after Mao and friends took over the country following WWII. He sets up a government.....a democratic elected government mind you on Taiwan. Which is still with us today. And it is pretty prosperous.

Old Calvin Coolidge picked a winner in the Generalissimo in my opinion.
Had he stayed in power in post WWII China. do you really think that the that millions of Chinese that met death under Mao's Communist regime...would not have had it better under the Generalissimo?




The numbers mentioned are 40m Chinese met death under Mao and Friends.

RE: Britain and France to intervene with airstrikes against Syria regime.

Let us look at what Supreme Leader Khomenie gave his people after he came to power. Did he close down Evin Prison? No.
Did he give them a Islam Republic of fair elections? No
Did he oppress minority and smaller religious groups? Yes
The United States has not even had a embassy in Iran since the embassy take over. You cannot blame the failure of Iran on country that does not even have a embassy there.

Pakistan. Check it out some time. The Taliban came from the Mushadeen.
The Mushadden were the creation one General Perez Mushraff when he decided to fight the India in the mountains of Khasmir in Operation
Cargil. The United State did not have a horse in that fight.

Iraq. Ever hear of the Pearl Of Alla? It is a real pearl and a biggee...14 pounds...one of most valued in the world. In 1999, its owner says bin Laden attempted to buy it for $60m as a gift to Sadam Hussien. I give $60m dollar gifts to people that I have no relationship with every day....don't you?

Or we can believe the Sadam and bin Laden were of the same cloth and found a common enemy in the United States. Which do you think is more likely?

RE: Britain and France to intervene with airstrikes against Syria regime.

To Isreal and to western forces that is entirely accurate. But I am talking more about the morality to what Assad did here. If he would give the order to agent his own people (siome being possible Alawite and Shia). He certainly would not hesitate to agent civilians outside of Syria.

RE: Britain and France to intervene with airstrikes against Syria regime.

With a loose cannon like Assad....no one is behind the wheel of the car anyways.

What makes you think that if Assad will kill his own people with agents.....he will not give agents to terrorist groups to strike the West with?

Heck his Poppa support both Yasar Arafat and Black September

Everyone talks about bad the Rebels are with some alQeada in them. Assad is not buddy to the west. Nor are his helpers from Iran.
Some estimate have the number of alQeada types in the SFA to be from 2-3000 of a group of 100,000+

In every barrel you have some bad apples. But Assad's barrel is bigger and has more nasty stuff in it than the rebel's barrel.

RE: Britain and France to intervene with airstrikes against Syria regime.

It seems to me that if the chemical attack that was done in Damascus was done by the Rebels.....it would have been on Assad hillside place that over looks the capitol. Or on a Syrian military target in the area.

NOT on....

On a Damascus suburb that has a number of civilian Sunni residents in it.

You don't kill your own supporters that you need for assistance during a time of war.

If the rebels had both the rocket launchers and mortars that delivered the agents.....they can easily reach Assad's palace.
Just with google sat map....you can see it on the west side of
Damsacus....on a 500 foot man made hill.

RE: Will Egypt survive the fighting?

I think we have to go back to when President Obama refused Mubrak's request for 'one week more of time to halt the protests'. Would Mubrak's methods to halt the protest be much different than today's methods?

Likely not. But now instead of a week of violence in Egypt, you are looking at years of civil unrest and violence in the country. Liberal around the world saluted President Obama vision's for staying out of a middle eastern crisis. They saluted the Muslim Brotherhood as it came to power in Egypt.

Only they forgot, the leader of alQeada, Dr. ElZharwiri is a former Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood member. So when President Morsi began to crack down on the Coptic Christians, moderate Muslims and Egyptian Sunni with Islamic fundamental laws. They were aghast. el Zharwiri was part of the Sadat assignation of the Muslimbrother hood. All for Sadat's desire to have peace with Israel. Oh the radicalism of having peace with Israel! At least to the Muslim Brotherhoods way of thinking!
And Iran's thinking! And alQueada thinking!

Oh but how could that happen! Morsi won the election...he should play by the rules of democracy. You don't oppress the opposition in the democracy game. Shall I mention Iran and its oppression of the opposition, in its democracy? The leaders in Washington and elsewhere should have seen the oppression coming in Morsi's Egypt.

But they were slightly my-optic there.

So with a influx of heavily armed fighters from Libya....if it has not happened...it will. Egypt is about to be carved up like Thanksgiving Turkey. The Eyptian Army will try to 'protect' the moderate areas of the country. The radical Islamists already have a strong base of operation in the Siani and Port Said. While today's fight is in the Cairo's camps of the Islamist opposition...soon it will be up and down the Nile and around the Suez canal.

Now if the Suez canal closes for any length of time...who benefits?
The price of crude and fuel products will sky rocket with a Canal closure. So on my list of parties to benefit are.....Russia, a main exporter to Europe. Iran...still angered over the crude sanctions being placed on it for the nuclear programs. They are also high on my list for organizing and supporting the decayed situation in Egypt today.

So here is a beer toast to President Obama for his refusing Mubrak to halt this during the Arab Spring rebellion several years ago....

RE: Guantanamo Bay Prison

Besides were are we going to put Assad of Syria......when the dust settles in Syria? If not GITMO?

RE: Do you miss George W. Bush yet ?

George just got $500m in donations for his library in Austin. Yes they actually placed it on a college campus ....Texas AM...Aggie Land....sure make the jokes now about George never opening a book in his life.

Your truly was invited to the opening.....and to add a small contribution to the donations, of course. George is a politician. Well former politician.

Not sure if I should go. What would a tall lanky Floridian do among a bunch of Texans that are much shorter than he. Sorry Texans I had to get one joke in.

George want you at CS to know that he appreciates your support in the past. He said that during the Iraq war years, he liked to come here and get a little foreign input into his affair and doing for the country.

George knows that when you have a open and free discussion .....you get the best solutions to issues.

Take those WMDs in Iraq. George said that they just might be in Syria now. Hey even the UN is trying to get in there to see if Assad used them. Not like the UN got much of chance to see if they were in Sadam's Iraq or anything.....so George is not expecting that President Obama will do much better in his great Syrian WMD hunt....

RE: Who won the "Space Race?"

Those are both new programs in the last five year. What new space program has Russia had in the same time. I know....the had a group of people doing a Mars mission with sleep control methods here on terra firma.

You all asked who won the space race. The race is still going on. Russia has not had a new space program since the Soviet Union broke up in the early 1990s. That is a fact jack......

RE: North Korea - what they really said, not what the Western twisted media reported

Russian military aircraft intrude US airspace in Alaska all the time.
We don't threaten nuclear war over it.....

RE: 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso

Explain the cell phone calls from the passengers on the planes to their families.......saying that it was a 'group of mid eastern men' that hi jacked the plane

RE: Who won the "Space Race?"

Are the Russians doing this?



or this



The first is a new planet locating space probe. Once launched it will be able to find stars with distance planet around them.

The second, is a mission that NASA began to consider 2013...to bring a astriod back to earth. Just lasso the rock and bring it back here.

RE: Republicans can't see the forest for the trees

I thought I would bumb your thread Ooby.

I think that you are going to like this. Remember the ACA? Otherwise called Obamacare. 100% passed by the DEMs back in 2009? It is getting ready to be implemented for the first time in 2014....well kind of. Allot of Obama administrators are saying they need another 1 year to begin it.

One can under stand why. When.....

To file for Obamacare.....it take 61 pages of online filing. Over 1000 questions have to be answered. If done by paper....it is 21 page information package that has to be filled out and sent in.

So it pretty easy to see why the HHS administration is asking for more time to implement the ACA. The questions are rather detailed and may need research.

One need to remember that is 13,000 pages of legislation that drafted the ACA....those 13,000 pages gave the HHS a wide range of investigative abilities to determine if a person qualifies for the program.

Thinking that I am making all this up? laugh I wish.

RE: Who won the "Space Race?"

Did Russia do this?

NASA just announced a major artropyshics find from the AMS platform that is attached to the International Space Station.



and



It seems fellows that they have have found 'dark matter' and 'anti matter' in the universe. A pretty big deal......

RE: South will retaliate imediately with stealth fighters

How smart is it to tick off a country that can have stealth jets with nuclear and conventional smart bombs flying over your capital while you sleep? In my book of dumb plays.....that rates really high on the list.

My dad was talking to a fighter bomber jock one time. He asked him how accurate the smart bombs we had were. The fighter jet jock said....95% of them hit within 4 feet of the target. The remaining 5% hit within 10 feet of the target.

Oh Premier Kim Un.....were do you sleep tonight? President Obama sleeps very well in the White House. Toastie as a bug in a rug.

Sadam Hussien changed his position every two hours. I suspect Premier Kim Un is doing the same......here a Un....there a Un.....everywhere a Un Un.......this is so much fun, I am not sure I can handle it anymore.grin grin

RE: South will retaliate imediately with stealth fighters

It was all NKorean bluster and no real fire, Tom.

here is the way I see this. You have young man (Kim Un) become Premier of NKorea. He needs to consolidate power with in the government and the military. That to get him thru the next several decades without a coup attempt to remove him.

How does he do that?

Well he comes as close to war with the South and US as possible. He watches via his secret service ....the NKorean communist party leaders and senior military leaders that are giving him 100% support in the war mongering. Any that don't shake their fist high enough or rise their voice loud enough....well are on his early retirement list. Those that meet the grade, he can trust and give more power and authority to run the government and military to his liking.

Just my take on it.

You also have the change in power in China mixed into this. By rising his fist at the South and the United States he is making buddies within the new China regime that are anti west.

Lastly it was our Easter season. They plan these little fandangos for our holidays. They know it gets more press when it is on a holiday. Just go back 15 years.....and check the news at Christmas and Easter. if a crisis is not happening someplace in the world, it is the strange holiday season.

RE: Who won the "Space Race?"

Go a little deeper into space.

Who has landed successfully on Mars? Not once but several times.

Who has sent a nuclear powered space craft to the edge of the solar system? Cassinni

Cassinni by the way was the first of a fleet of deep solar space explorers. Had NASA gotten the budget, 11 more would have flown.
But NASA also had success with the Viking program.

Who launched the Hubble? Most astropyshist today use Hubble pics for any deep space studies. Hubble has been the biggest successful deep space telescope the world has had in its history.

I have seen the Soyus capsule up close at the Air and Space Museum in Washington. That was in the mid 90s. When I did, I knew why the US had won the cold war. Why? The US was far ahead in all the key technologies....communication, computers, advanced materials.

The Russian still fly the Soyus. The US is now two generations beyond the Shuttle program. It has commericalized most of its space programs.
We have a commercial program testing a vertical launch and vertical land missile. No other country in the world is doing that.

We all can have our opinion here. But if you deny these achievements of the US space programs.....you are just being spoiled sport because the Russian got whoopped in both the cold war and the space race.






I am not including the defunct Shuttle program in the post. One of the most successful manned programs to todate. What Did Russia do with its version of the Shuttle. It never made it off the ground.....

RE: Syria: is it another case of here we go again, worry about this one

Syria, Symria......This is a affair is put together by Putin, Assad and the "A" guy from Iran. This is a all- Russian, Iran and Syria affair. Well add in 50m angry Syrian Sunni to the mix to give it some kick.

Heck consider how Obama led from the back in the Libya affair. It was cruise missiles and Tom cat flights. Heck you would not have even known about the Tom cats, except one has a Tom Cruise Top Gun flame out and ditched in the soft sands of the Libya desert.

Obama led so far from the rear in Libya, he did not even get a good photo opt from it. grin

So a US battle carrier fleet is deployed off Syria coasts? Big deal. With the sequester, it not likely they have enough JP for launching many aircraft any ways. All our boots are coming home. From Iraq and Afghanistan. Well most of them. A few with Cocrans with deep soles are staying. But even those Karzia does not want in Afghanistan.

Think Obama is crazy enough to commit US boots to Syria? He might be nuts, but he is not that nutty. Not when he is going the big pull back from Iraq and Afghan land.

Now Iran ....that is a different matter. Syria is close to Isreal. If Assad starts a nuclear program, it is close enough for the Isreali to take the roof off the building. By the way did you see...were the SFA have occuppied that facility. They are considering letting the international press into it now. Should be interesting to see pick up close of Assad facility.

Iran? Well I listen to Simon Perez today.President of Israel. He says Isreal needs the US to lead on Iran if goes into a shooting conflict. So some covert operation for Iran are entirely being considered. But they do that all the time.

Did you hear? A generator at the Bueshuer reactor went down last week.......shut the entire nuclear facility down. Now I am not going to say that the US had anything to do with it. It might just be a well made piece of Russian machinery that went bad. But stranger things have happened. You know how those US SEALs are. You saw Charlie Sheen only good movie made in his entire life. (Ok make that two good movies he played Wild thing in the baseball classic Major League). SEALs are smoke in the night.......

RE: All out War

I would like to thank the European and Pacific Rim CSer that have posted here.....specially since Un has only pointed his nuclear tipped missile at the United States, Japan and South Korea.

He is selective in his targetting I guess. It does not really matter....that the UN was in the Korean War and opposite China and NKorea in the conflict......and 32 Countries, including most of Europe and Pacific Rim countries were part of the UN coalition.

But Un has his finger pointed at the US. Now if you believe Dennis Rodman that is not the case. Un is just 'youthful and misunderstood' person. Maybe even with a trouble past (considering the family he comes from). He really does not nuc out a major US city or burn President Obama in flame of NKorean revenge.

Un has not swung his other fingers around to target Australia or Europe so far. But give him time. He is a young man with plenty of ambitions and drive.....and a few nucs hanging around doing little.
Un did trash a 50+ year old cease fire because 3000 American and 6000
South Korean got to together for a some war gaming. You know sleeping in out in the chilly Korea weather. It is like a big camp out with guns.

Un was quick to un limber the NKorea heavy artillery near the contested islands on the west side of the country. He was out pointing a stick to the south telling the local commanders and his troops....."mad dogs live across the border, you have my blessing to destroy them". They popped off a few rounds and made some holes in the water and big splashes. Maybe some waves that hit the contested islands.

Still Rodman says don't sweat Un and NKorea. They are pretty much harmless. Only Nkorea has one of the largest manned Armies in the world
and now.....has ICBMs on mobile launchers. Yep like Russia, Un has placed his ICBMs on trailers and can cart them around with him. This does not phase Dennis. Everyone should have a trailered ICBM in his house.

Rodman tells us that Un and Nkorea is a big basketball country. That the Chicago Bulls are loved there. Funny I never thought Nkoreans, that don't have enough electricity to heat and light their homes would be big on the NBA or American Hoops. But Dennis was there, so he should know. Or maybe he just making that up, being a really big Obama fan from Chicago.

Well I would like to again thank European and Pacific Rim CSers for their continued concern over the developments in North Korea. If Un does decide to flame a US city or fire up President Obama....we will not have to apologize for defending ourselves to the world again.
We can nuc the $%^&^$# out of North Korea.

RE: Who is responsible of Afghan War ?

Look forward people...look forward. In 2014....most of the US troops will be out. They are still deciding a what level of security forces to leave for....10....20.....30.....40 .....50+ years. NATO is still deciding the level of their forces to leave for 10.....20....30....40 .....50+ years.

So the one things we can be assured of....there will drones in the skies of Afghanistan and Pakistan....for the next 1/2 century.

RE: What's to like about Obama

That last little affair in Libya was because Europeans and the English needed to oust Kdaffi and get that light Libya crude to mix with their heavy weight North Sea crude. Sure it was our $450,000 each cruise missile that did the work. ( of 10 cruise missile used on Libya, was launch a American missile. But did the US get any return at all for the investment?

Shuck all we got was the Brit leaving Benghazi two weeks before Amb Stevens was killed. Smart yes. But hey not even a "head ups" warning from Cameron that the Indians (Libyan Militia) ares on the war path? I mean according to Obama and his administration, they thought Bengazhi was as safe as walk in the park.

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