Obamacare: The end of the DEMcratic party of the US? (29)
People knew better then to fall for the Affordable Healthcare nonsense.
They fell for it all hook line and sinker.I'm sure the ones who supported Obama must be so darn proud of themselves.
They fell for it all hook line and sinker.I'm sure the ones who supported Obama must be so darn proud of themselves.
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TTom50: His ratings have fallen to near all time lows....
The President has become the fodder for late night talk host over this issue..Even Jon Stewart is taking late night shots.
The President has become the fodder for late night talk host over this issue..Even Jon Stewart is taking late night shots.
No surprise there.
John Stewart is a mouthpiece for the Jewish controlled media. And they only supports politicians who do what they are told.
Obama was told to make war on Syria and Iran.
When he backed away from that, they began to destroy his popularity, including all the problems with Obamacare.
Unless he starts to toe the line for AIPAC, by the time he leaves office he will be hated. Thus opening the door for a Republican puppet to take office with a lot of initial popularity.
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RayfromUSA: No surprise there.
John Stewart is a mouthpiece for the Jewish controlled media. And they only supports politicians who do what they are told.
Obama was told to make war on Syria and Iran.
When he backed away from that, they began to destroy his popularity, including all the problems with Obamacare.
Unless he starts to toe the line for AIPAC, by the time he leaves office he will be hated. Thus opening the door for a Republican puppet to take office with a lot of initial popularity.
John Stewart is a mouthpiece for the Jewish controlled media. And they only supports politicians who do what they are told.
Obama was told to make war on Syria and Iran.
When he backed away from that, they began to destroy his popularity, including all the problems with Obamacare.
Unless he starts to toe the line for AIPAC, by the time he leaves office he will be hated. Thus opening the door for a Republican puppet to take office with a lot of initial popularity.
RayfromUSA: No surprise there.
John Stewart is a mouthpiece for the Jewish controlled media. And they only supports politicians who do what they are told.
Obama was told to make war on Syria and Iran.
When he backed away from that, they began to destroy his popularity, including all the problems with Obamacare.
Unless he starts to toe the line for AIPAC, by the time he leaves office he will be hated. Thus opening the door for a Republican puppet to take office with a lot of initial popularity.
John Stewart is a mouthpiece for the Jewish controlled media. And they only supports politicians who do what they are told.
Obama was told to make war on Syria and Iran.
When he backed away from that, they began to destroy his popularity, including all the problems with Obamacare.
Unless he starts to toe the line for AIPAC, by the time he leaves office he will be hated. Thus opening the door for a Republican puppet to take office with a lot of initial popularity.
Obamacare IS the problem!
Still seeing Jews everywhere?
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RayfromUSA: No surprise there.
John Stewart is a mouthpiece for the Jewish controlled media. And they only supports politicians who do what they are told.
Obama was told to make war on Syria and Iran.
When he backed away from that, they began to destroy his popularity, including all the problems with Obamacare.
Unless he starts to toe the line for AIPAC, by the time he leaves office he will be hated. Thus opening the door for a Republican puppet to take office with a lot of initial popularity.
John Stewart is a mouthpiece for the Jewish controlled media. And they only supports politicians who do what they are told.
Obama was told to make war on Syria and Iran.
When he backed away from that, they began to destroy his popularity, including all the problems with Obamacare.
Unless he starts to toe the line for AIPAC, by the time he leaves office he will be hated. Thus opening the door for a Republican puppet to take office with a lot of initial popularity.
Keep blaiming Jews for your own failures in life just like the losers before you... it will not hurt us, today we are living in prosperity and happiness. While you will die as a bitter man just like those before you who took the same road .
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TTom50: Well with some 10m existing health care policies being cancelled, after
the President told the country many times. "You will be able to keep your doctor and insurance policies." Clearly at best a mis statement.
At worst a deception.
His ratings have fallen to near all time lows.
Just when other President have hit all time highs.
The President has become the fodder for late night talk host over this issue..
Even Jon Stewart is taking late night shots.
Several days ago, in Congress 38 DEM voted with REP to pass a REP health care bill that would stop the cancelled policies. President Obama gave the country a mea culpa. But has the people are not listening to the President that only has 2 years remaining in his final term.
prez bushs medicare part D,was a mess,as is any govt.plan,at first.talkin heads/fox news,etc.making,a mountain out of a mole hill,again.because,the haters are losing,the mid term elections,to dems,in the house,and power,back to prez.the President told the country many times. "You will be able to keep your doctor and insurance policies." Clearly at best a mis statement.
At worst a deception.
His ratings have fallen to near all time lows.
Just when other President have hit all time highs.
The President has become the fodder for late night talk host over this issue..
Even Jon Stewart is taking late night shots.
Several days ago, in Congress 38 DEM voted with REP to pass a REP health care bill that would stop the cancelled policies. President Obama gave the country a mea culpa. But has the people are not listening to the President that only has 2 years remaining in his final term.
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The Democrats have the demographics in hand. It's the Republicans that are finished. The Orcs will furnish America with a one party state.
The only alternative is to divide America throughracial segregation Libertarian bubbles.
The only alternative is to divide America through
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Obstinance_Works: The Democrats have the demographics in hand. It's the Republicans that are finished. The Orcs will furnish America with a one party state.
The only alternative is to divide America through racial segregation Libertarian bubbles.
they,are fruit loops,too.i,wish green party,would make a comeback.The only alternative is to divide America through racial segregation Libertarian bubbles.
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Conrad73: Obamacare IS the problem!
Still seeing Jews everywhere?
Still seeing Jews everywhere?
RIGHT! This "fart whistle" ACTING PRESIDENT SHOULD TAKE A PERMANENT VACATION FROM THE WHITEHOUSE! Is there anything like they have in professional sports, called a "a buyout clause" in his 4 year contract!? Pay the ODUMBO character just to get rid of him. Unlike having the "Midas touch", EVERYTHING this imbecile touches turns to Shat!
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hotburninluv: RIGHT! This "fart whistle" ACTING PRESIDENT SHOULD TAKE A PERMANENT VACATION FROM THE WHITEHOUSE! Is there anything like they have in professional sports, called a "a buyout clause" in his 4 year contract!? Pay the ODUMBO character just to get rid of him. Unlike having the "Midas touch", EVERYTHING this imbecile touches turns to Shat!
Funniest post I've read in a week!"fart whistle"
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Let me try to 'update' with the ACA happenings of the day.
First we have this article from the WSJ on the 12 DEM senators that voted for the ACA and now are doing their version of MJ's moon walk to get away from it. The number of DEM senator up for reelection in 2914 is 16. So 12 are feeling the ACA heat so to speak. To gain control of the Senate, the REP only need to gain one seat.
Now we have a major health care CEO...saying the the website rollout is only the 'tip if the iceberg'. As in the tip of the iceberg that sank the Titantic.
Bill George of Medontic is saying that the website will not be fixed by the end of the month. Also that there are some security holes in them. Consumer beware, every hacker on the planet is snooping into the ACA site for personal ID data.
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Then we have my favorite of the day. The first dog was enrolled in the ACA in Colorado today. Hey if they can vote, why not let them have some health care at the expense of the tax payer.
Baxter the long shady hair friend of Shane Smith was enrolled in the ACA. Congrats go out Baxter for his new status of having his own OBamacare policy. All his warm nosed friends on the block will be jealous.
is very cute.
Now some would say.....this could cause the DEM and their avid followers some heart ache and even some indigestion. But no. Liberals see the entire thing being a problem for the REPs.
First we have this White House report. It says that the ACA is bending the health care cost down.....
Now from what I am reading of the premiums prices of the ACA policies they are 40% to 60% higher than the commercial policies. So how this magic of accounting is being done, has yet to be explained to me.
But here is the White House report. Ah the magic of numbers........
Jon Terbush says that Senator McConnel (R) has a Obamacare conundrum....I know...I like typing out the fancy words as well. Jon says that since KY, home state of the Majority Leader being one of the leader in ACA enrollees, will cause McConnel heart aches at the poles.
We have this piece from a DEM strategist on h ow the DEM can make the ACA into a REP night mare. Robert Creamer is saying basically that the Americans will love Obamacare and will simply hate REP for trying to take it away from them. A little simplistic on my part.....but I like to get the heart of the matter quickly.
More to come.....because the ACA is the DEM gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving.....just like the energizer bunny.
First we have this article from the WSJ on the 12 DEM senators that voted for the ACA and now are doing their version of MJ's moon walk to get away from it. The number of DEM senator up for reelection in 2914 is 16. So 12 are feeling the ACA heat so to speak. To gain control of the Senate, the REP only need to gain one seat.
Now we have a major health care CEO...saying the the website rollout is only the 'tip if the iceberg'. As in the tip of the iceberg that sank the Titantic.
Bill George of Medontic is saying that the website will not be fixed by the end of the month. Also that there are some security holes in them. Consumer beware, every hacker on the planet is snooping into the ACA site for personal ID data.
|finance|headline|headline|story&par=yahoo&doc=101214098|Obamacare%20site%20tip%20of%20the
Then we have my favorite of the day. The first dog was enrolled in the ACA in Colorado today. Hey if they can vote, why not let them have some health care at the expense of the tax payer.
Baxter the long shady hair friend of Shane Smith was enrolled in the ACA. Congrats go out Baxter for his new status of having his own OBamacare policy. All his warm nosed friends on the block will be jealous.
is very cute.
Now some would say.....this could cause the DEM and their avid followers some heart ache and even some indigestion. But no. Liberals see the entire thing being a problem for the REPs.
First we have this White House report. It says that the ACA is bending the health care cost down.....
Now from what I am reading of the premiums prices of the ACA policies they are 40% to 60% higher than the commercial policies. So how this magic of accounting is being done, has yet to be explained to me.
But here is the White House report. Ah the magic of numbers........
Jon Terbush says that Senator McConnel (R) has a Obamacare conundrum....I know...I like typing out the fancy words as well. Jon says that since KY, home state of the Majority Leader being one of the leader in ACA enrollees, will cause McConnel heart aches at the poles.
We have this piece from a DEM strategist on h ow the DEM can make the ACA into a REP night mare. Robert Creamer is saying basically that the Americans will love Obamacare and will simply hate REP for trying to take it away from them. A little simplistic on my part.....but I like to get the heart of the matter quickly.
More to come.....because the ACA is the DEM gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving.....just like the energizer bunny.
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I do not believe it will be the end of the democratic party, but will be a huge set back for liberalism and their socialistic agendas. Now that Obama will go down in history as the worst president ever, we will have several years of conservative control, like after Jimma Cata left the office as the worst president ever. 
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This is at the center of the ACA problem.
In 2007-8, DEMs saw the rising health care cost in the country. It scared the begivers from them. Healthcare to the DEMs is like the holy grail of issues. If the cost is beyond gov't control, then fewer low income (e.g DEM supporters could have it).
If the cost of American health care rose to being unmanageable....were they could not get their greedy little fingers into the pie so to speak. They were in big trouble. Unions would stop sending them big donation to run for office. They would lose votes because of it.
Hence the President begins his assault on the status quot health care system and the push for the ACA. Over 200 times in his campaigns, he spoke on it. His mother died because she did not have insurance to cover her cancer treatment. A lie.....but a good story. 100s cried when he told it over and over again.
DEMs have done exactly what they did not want to do. Increase the cost of health care insurance for the individual.
Here is elderly woman and is paying $276 monthly for a private policy. Sipo..Zapo...the ACA comes to town. Her low cost policy is cancelled. She is now looking at a ACA policy for $415 per month. Now she HAS to be on the gov't role to pay for health care. But how much of the increase will the gov't pick up? Your guess is as good as mine.
This entire idea, that the individual needs the state....that the DEMs are pushing here. The big guys in the DEM party don't care if this woman is paying much of her social security for health care insurance. They had to smooth out the ACA with the insurance companies to get it passed in 2009. All those backroom deal remember?
Would the insurances companies rather have a $276 or a $415 per month polices. You betcha, they want that big dollar premium policy. That is being forced by the punishment taxes of the ACA with the help of your friendly IRS. That was the deal when the ACA was wrote.
It simply did not matter that the little old lady was going to be paying more for health care in the future. A lot more.
It is also a way to do wealth redistribution in the country. See with medicare being stripped of %650b, the ACA could now supplement low income Americans with health care. It does not matter that those elderly medicare policy holders had paid all their lives into medicare and it was a promise of the government for them.
The Obama campaign had found a new voter supporter blocks for the DEM party.....and these low income supporters needed something for their votes. Hence supplemented health insurance from the ACA. I will not say the words 'buying votes' at this point. But if it fits......
Still the DEMs have not gotten to the heart of the medical cost crisis in America. Just raising premium rates is not going to put more money into the hospitals or medical research or new drugs. Here is where the real rising cost are.
The newly wealthy insurance companies are going to simply hoard the new premium income. Remember the banks during the bailout? What did they do with the bailout funds? They hoarded bailout funds because of the political insecurity in the country. Insurance firms will reinvest premium funds into the best investment the can find in the market place.
If you ever saw a animal in a wire snare trap.....that is where the DEMs are today regarding the ACA. It is not a pretty sight. They passed it, they wrote it. they signed it. They own it. President Obama owns it as well. DEMs are going to knawning off their limbs to escape what is coming regarding the ACA.
The 12 DEM senators and the 38 house DEMs are only the beginning of this DEM limb chew. You have the DEM State legislators and DEM governors that all supported the ACA as well.
When those little old ladies start to pound on the doors of Congress....State legislators and Mayor offices for relief from the ACA. DEM fur is going to fly.
In 2007-8, DEMs saw the rising health care cost in the country. It scared the begivers from them. Healthcare to the DEMs is like the holy grail of issues. If the cost is beyond gov't control, then fewer low income (e.g DEM supporters could have it).
If the cost of American health care rose to being unmanageable....were they could not get their greedy little fingers into the pie so to speak. They were in big trouble. Unions would stop sending them big donation to run for office. They would lose votes because of it.
Hence the President begins his assault on the status quot health care system and the push for the ACA. Over 200 times in his campaigns, he spoke on it. His mother died because she did not have insurance to cover her cancer treatment. A lie.....but a good story. 100s cried when he told it over and over again.
DEMs have done exactly what they did not want to do. Increase the cost of health care insurance for the individual.
Here is elderly woman and is paying $276 monthly for a private policy. Sipo..Zapo...the ACA comes to town. Her low cost policy is cancelled. She is now looking at a ACA policy for $415 per month. Now she HAS to be on the gov't role to pay for health care. But how much of the increase will the gov't pick up? Your guess is as good as mine.
This entire idea, that the individual needs the state....that the DEMs are pushing here. The big guys in the DEM party don't care if this woman is paying much of her social security for health care insurance. They had to smooth out the ACA with the insurance companies to get it passed in 2009. All those backroom deal remember?
Would the insurances companies rather have a $276 or a $415 per month polices. You betcha, they want that big dollar premium policy. That is being forced by the punishment taxes of the ACA with the help of your friendly IRS. That was the deal when the ACA was wrote.
It simply did not matter that the little old lady was going to be paying more for health care in the future. A lot more.
It is also a way to do wealth redistribution in the country. See with medicare being stripped of %650b, the ACA could now supplement low income Americans with health care. It does not matter that those elderly medicare policy holders had paid all their lives into medicare and it was a promise of the government for them.
The Obama campaign had found a new voter supporter blocks for the DEM party.....and these low income supporters needed something for their votes. Hence supplemented health insurance from the ACA. I will not say the words 'buying votes' at this point. But if it fits......
Still the DEMs have not gotten to the heart of the medical cost crisis in America. Just raising premium rates is not going to put more money into the hospitals or medical research or new drugs. Here is where the real rising cost are.
The newly wealthy insurance companies are going to simply hoard the new premium income. Remember the banks during the bailout? What did they do with the bailout funds? They hoarded bailout funds because of the political insecurity in the country. Insurance firms will reinvest premium funds into the best investment the can find in the market place.
If you ever saw a animal in a wire snare trap.....that is where the DEMs are today regarding the ACA. It is not a pretty sight. They passed it, they wrote it. they signed it. They own it. President Obama owns it as well. DEMs are going to knawning off their limbs to escape what is coming regarding the ACA.
The 12 DEM senators and the 38 house DEMs are only the beginning of this DEM limb chew. You have the DEM State legislators and DEM governors that all supported the ACA as well.
When those little old ladies start to pound on the doors of Congress....State legislators and Mayor offices for relief from the ACA. DEM fur is going to fly.
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d401654u: I do not believe it will be the end of the democratic party, but will be a huge set back for liberalism and their socialistic agendas. Now that Obama will go down in history as the worst president ever, we will have several years of conservative control, like after Jimma Cata left the office as the worst president ever.
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Pity Obama did not go the direct purchase model rather than cutting the insurance industry in on the deal . There are models that work around the world . The US did not have to re-invent the wheel .
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I need Hot-Single-Dude's opinion on this. 
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........exchanging.....one ..turd...for another isint progress.........to my way of thinking........
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MADDOG69: I need Hot-Single-Dude's opinion on this.
Hot Single Dude has long fled the scene. He is in some European riot protesting austerity in the EU and waving a red flag. So they know who to shoot the tear gas canister at.....
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Irregardless of how Obamacare unfolds, Hillary r Clinton is going to be the next president of the USA. She is qualified to do the job, but not the most qualified and not my choice.
IMO, we have a lot of really talented people in this country who could do a good job as our chief executive. Preferably a leader and negotiator. I'd like to see USAamericans consider someone else besides a Bush or Clinton again.
IMO, we have a lot of really talented people in this country who could do a good job as our chief executive. Preferably a leader and negotiator. I'd like to see USAamericans consider someone else besides a Bush or Clinton again.
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IsraelBoy: Keep blaiming Jews for your own failures in life just like the losers before you... it will not hurt us, today we are living in prosperity and happiness. While you will die as a bitter man just like those before you who took the same road.
Israel is a total leech on the American economy.
When the dollar crashes. Israel will disappear.
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IsraelBoy: Keep blaiming Jews for your own failures in life just like the losers before you... it will not hurt us, today we are living in prosperity and happiness. While you will die as a bitter man just like those before you who took the same road.
Israel is a total leech on the American economy.
When the dollar crashes...Israel will disappear.
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RayfromUSA: Israel is a total leech on the American economy.
When the dollar crashes...Israel will disappear.
When the dollar crashes...Israel will disappear.
The Rayracle has spoken!
Hope you don't have to eat your own words!
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TTom50: Hot Single Dude has long fled the scene. He is in some European riot protesting austerity in the EU and waving a red flag. So they know who to shoot the tear gas canister at.....
Personally I don't think he has ever even been to Europe.
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Conrad73: The Rayracle has spoken!
Hope you don't have to eat your own words!
Hope you don't have to eat your own words!
It doesn't take an Oracle to know that Israel is a leech to American taxpayers. The US underwrites about half of Israel's entire GDP.
Happily, the corrupt system whereby AIPAC bribes US politicians to funnel taxpayer money to Israel is beginning to break down.
That may be the silver lining to the collapsing economy.
Here's a good white-paper discussing how the Israel lobby systematically manipulates US policy in ways that greatly harm the US.
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RayfromUSA: It doesn't take an Oracle to know that Israel is a leech to American taxpayers. The US underwrites about half of Israel's entire GDP.
Happily, the corrupt system whereby AIPAC bribes US politicians to funnel taxpayer money to Israel is beginning to break down.
That may be the silver lining to the collapsing economy.
Here's a good white-paper discussing how the Israel lobby systematically manipulates US policy in ways that greatly harm the US.
Happily, the corrupt system whereby AIPAC bribes US politicians to funnel taxpayer money to Israel is beginning to break down.
That may be the silver lining to the collapsing economy.
Here's a good white-paper discussing how the Israel lobby systematically manipulates US policy in ways that greatly harm the US.
You just made my case again!
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No, of course not. No more than a promise of WMDs destroyed the GOP. We only have two parties.
Employers need to be gotten out of the business of providing healthcare, and sadly, due to Republican belligerence, the ACA was as good as we could get until we can get a universal system like literally everyone else has.
Employers need to be gotten out of the business of providing healthcare, and sadly, due to Republican belligerence, the ACA was as good as we could get until we can get a universal system like literally everyone else has.
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memory_alpha: No, of course not. No more than a promise of WMDs destroyed the GOP. We only have two parties.
Employers need to be gotten out of the business of providing healthcare, and sadly, due to Republican belligerence, the ACA was as good as we could get until we can get a universal system like literally everyone else has.
Employers need to be gotten out of the business of providing healthcare, and sadly, due to Republican belligerence, the ACA was as good as we could get until we can get a universal system like literally everyone else has.
I don't know what ACA you looked at,but the ACA I saw is CACA!
Touching,though how you blame the Republicans for it!
I guess GWB carries the Major Blame for it?
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This is so stupid and 
me to no end..... My simplistic way of seeing this.
The PPACA Patient Protection Affordable Care Act is an approach to get all Americans covered by private health insurance - it is not a government paid health care program.
So how does the American government get mass amounts of folk (all 308 million of us) to move to a new system. With legislation, state buyin and tax incentives and penalties.
It is a free enterprise type of market place of various insurance companies is being set up all across the country. To offer choice, (sometimes limited) and variety for competition, and they must provide a minimum standards of care in coverage.
So the republican party and the States that went kicking and screaming into this are making us all suffer by limiting our choices, competition.
So there are tax breaks for those. Are a lot more people going to get government paid insurance like medicare and medicaid - yes because everyone has to come to the table - but more people are buying their insurance.
It is really brilliant when you think about how the American people approach life. We do not like the idea of being taxed and provided health care. So why not get a marketplace, private insurance companies and tax incentives?
Especially since Congress are lame ducks in the water. They are the worst ever - they have not passed any legislation worth anything for us. They just talk, and talk and say nothing and do nothing.
I think politicians we elected to the House of Representatives are the worst kind of public servants -
me to no end..... My simplistic way of seeing this.The PPACA Patient Protection Affordable Care Act is an approach to get all Americans covered by private health insurance - it is not a government paid health care program.
So how does the American government get mass amounts of folk (all 308 million of us) to move to a new system. With legislation, state buyin and tax incentives and penalties.
It is a free enterprise type of market place of various insurance companies is being set up all across the country. To offer choice, (sometimes limited) and variety for competition, and they must provide a minimum standards of care in coverage.
So the republican party and the States that went kicking and screaming into this are making us all suffer by limiting our choices, competition.
So there are tax breaks for those. Are a lot more people going to get government paid insurance like medicare and medicaid - yes because everyone has to come to the table - but more people are buying their insurance.
It is really brilliant when you think about how the American people approach life. We do not like the idea of being taxed and provided health care. So why not get a marketplace, private insurance companies and tax incentives?
Especially since Congress are lame ducks in the water. They are the worst ever - they have not passed any legislation worth anything for us. They just talk, and talk and say nothing and do nothing.
I think politicians we elected to the House of Representatives are the worst kind of public servants -
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Obamacare: The end of the DEMcratic party of the US?(Vote Below)
the President told the country many times. "You will be able to keep your doctor and insurance policies." Clearly at best a mis statement.
At worst a deception.
His ratings have fallen to near all time lows.
Just when other President have hit all time highs.
The President has become the fodder for late night talk host over this issue..
Several days ago, in Congress 38 DEM voted with REP to pass a REP health care bill that would stop the cancelled policies. President Obama gave the country a mea culpa. But has the people are not listening to the President that only has 2 years remaining in his final term.