Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us? ( Archived) (62)

Mar 4, 2009 5:30 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
When a small child looses a parent, you want a little girl to know about her mother's wonderful spirit and how much she(the child) is still loved.

You want to offer some kind of comfort by saying that her mother is in heaven looking down at her, and smiling at her, and loving her.

I want to believe there is this glorious afterlife, but I can't make myself believing it. And saying it to a little girl feels odd - like lying to her.

We do tell kids about Ester Bunnies and Santas, but then they learn it's a lie. Very fast.

Will this child resent being fed this temporary soothing lie when she realizes it's just another lie?
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Mar 4, 2009 5:35 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
African kids are not lied to. There are no santa or tooth fairy myths. It's a bucket and off to the well.

conversing
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Mar 4, 2009 5:36 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Who knows what's in store for us when we die, maybe nothing. I wouldn't be inclined to lie to her though.
Just let her know that her mother loved her, as do others that are still here.
She can make up her own mind about the afterlife when she's capable and willing to explore those possibilities.

hug
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Mar 4, 2009 5:38 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
SexyAttorney
SexyAttorneySexyAttorneyClearwater, Florida USA25 Threads 976 Posts
They are looking down on us, maybe in spirit only, but still looking down on us so it is NOT a temporary soothing lie....
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Mar 4, 2009 5:39 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Laura25: When a small child looses a parent, you want a little girl to know about her mother's wonderful spirit and how much she(the child) is still loved.

You want to offer some kind of comfort by saying that her mother is in heaven looking down at her, and smiling at her, and loving her.

I want to believe there is this glorious afterlife, but I can't make myself believing it. And saying it to a little girl feels odd - like lying to her.

We do tell kids about Ester Bunnies and Santas, but then they learn it's a lie. Very fast.

Will this child resent being fed this temporary soothing lie when she realizes it's just another lie?


wave Hi Laura.........teddybear

I'm like yourself in that I dont believe it either, but as regards a situation like that, I would not mind a little whit lie.

If it causes them comfort in a time of distress I see nothing wrong with it.......Kids shd be kids for as long as poss IMO

hug
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Mar 4, 2009 5:41 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
lusciousmile: African kids are not lied to. There are no santa or tooth fairy myths. It's a bucket and off to the well.


No any sort of comfort is being offered at all?

Just let them deal with it on their own?
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Mar 4, 2009 5:45 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
kidatheart: Who knows what's in store for us when we die, maybe nothing. I wouldn't be inclined to lie to her though.
Just let her know that her mother loved her, as do others that are still here.
She can make up her own mind about the afterlife when she's capable and willing to explore those possibilities.


Thanks, Kid.

Right.

But by that time she won't need as much comfort, as she'd need first few months or couple of years - time will do the healing.
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Mar 4, 2009 5:49 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Laura25: No any sort of comfort is being offered at all?

Just let them deal with it on their own?


I am not kidding you, Laura. Most of us don't really talk about these things. You will find that most African kids grow up to be very tough. dunno
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Mar 4, 2009 5:54 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
vinny1967: Hi Laura.........

I'm like yourself in that I dont believe it either, but as regards a situation like that, I would not mind a little whit lie.

If it causes them comfort in a time of distress I see nothing wrong with it.......Kids shd be kids for as long as poss IMO


Hi Vinny wave

That's what I think too -

even though it feels odd (to me) saying it, I might be wrong and they are "up there" or she herself might come to this conclusion someday...

or if not, will hate us for lying... someday, very soon.
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Mar 4, 2009 5:58 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
lusciousmile: I am not kidding you, Laura. Most of us don't really talk about these things. You will find that most African kids grow up to be very tough.


wave

It's interesting, Lush - I thought every nation has lots of these kind of "fairy tales".

Very tough? That sounds "cool".

What about growing up feeling very deprived and being emotionally disturbed?
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Mar 4, 2009 6:00 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Laura25: Hi Vinny

That's what I think too -

even though it feels odd (to me) saying it, I might be wrong and they are "up there" or she herself might come to this conclusion someday...

or if not, will hate us for lying... someday, very soon.


I think its easy here Laura.............Religion was very big here and most people are Catholics. The Church virtually ran our school system so religion is taught.

My kids go to a catholic school so are taught about religion from an early age..........I do explain to them there are different faiths and dont push it on them.................so in a way its easier for us to do........

Anyway Nite..............teddybear
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Mar 4, 2009 6:05 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
lifesajoy
lifesajoylifesajoySand Fork, West Virginia USA4 Threads 404 Posts
In response to: When a small child looses a parent, you want a little girl to know about her mother's wonderful spirit and how much she(the child) is still loved.

You want to offer some kind of comfort by saying that her mother is in heaven looking down at her, and smiling at her, and loving her.

I want to believe there is this glorious afterlife, but I can't make myself believing it. And saying it to a little girl feels odd - like lying to her.

We do tell kids about Ester Bunnies and Santas, but then they learn it's a lie. Very fast.

Will this child resent being fed this temporary soothing lie when she realizes it's just another lie?


Who's to say there's no heaven. It's a personal belief. Just like all religions are personal. If the child was brought up to believe or her parents believed, who are we to tell her otherwise. Until someone can come back and tell me there's nothing up there, I choose to believe. teddybear
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Mar 4, 2009 6:07 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
vinny1967: I think its easy here Laura.............Religion was very big here and most people are Catholics. The Church virtually ran our school system so religion is taught.

My kids go to a catholic school so are taught about religion from an early age..........I do explain to them there are different faiths and dont push it on them.................so in a way its easier for us to do........

Anyway Nite..............




G'nite, Vinny teddybear
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Mar 4, 2009 6:09 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Laura25: It's interesting, Lush - I thought every nation has lots of these kind of "fairy tales".

Very tough? That sounds "cool".

What about growing up feeling very deprived and being emotionally disturbed?


Every country has it's tales, not necessary fairy tales, and not all of them stem from fiction.

You see, Laura, growing up with a diffent culture, does not mean we are deprived of important things like love or guidance. It also does not mean that we are neglected. If we were emotionally disturbed, there would be more suicides and drug use, I think.

I am glad I wasn't told fibs, though I respect that every one has their own way of raising kids.


JMO
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Mar 4, 2009 6:12 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
lifesajoy: Who's to say there's no heaven. It's a personal belief. Just like all religions are personal. If the child was brought up to believe or her parents believed, who are we to tell her otherwise. Until someone can come back and tell me there's nothing up there, I choose to believe.


No, the little girl's family is not religious.

At least not actively practicing religion.

This child, as many kids these days, is not brought up neither believing nor not-believing.
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Mar 4, 2009 6:13 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
sorry for typo...

Laura25: No, the little girl's family is not religious.

At least not actively practicing religion.

This child, as many kids these days, brought up neither believing nor not-believing.
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Mar 4, 2009 6:14 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
livinglarge
livinglargelivinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland10 Threads 5,879 Posts
lusciousmile: African kids are not lied to. There are no santa or tooth fairy myths. It's a bucket and off to the well.


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing that was so funny Lush.

I know it probably not ment to be , but it cracked me up.
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Mar 4, 2009 6:17 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
livinglarge: that was so funny Lush.

I know it probably not ment to be , but it cracked me up.


Hey, it's cool with me.

laugh
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Mar 4, 2009 6:18 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
livinglarge
livinglargelivinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland10 Threads 5,879 Posts
lusciousmile: Hey, it's cool with me.


thanks handshake
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Mar 4, 2009 6:21 PM CST Or maybe I am wrong and they are up there looking down on us?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
lusciousmile: Every country has it's tales, not necessary fairy tales, and not all of them stem from fiction.

You see, Laura, growing up with a diffent culture, does not mean we are deprived of important things like love or guidance. It also does not mean that we are neglected. If we were emotionally disturbed, there would be more suicides and drug use, I think.

I am glad I wasn't told fibs, though I respect that every one has their own way of raising kids.JMO


Oh, Lush, in no way I implied lack of love or guidance. Or neglect.

It's not so common for a small child to lose a parent and if it happens, it feels as if there are ways to help. Somehow. Somewhat.

Even though there are probably none.

But there is still this nagging feeling that you must offer more help in dealing with it than just love.

It's hard to explain unless you are actually in such situation.
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