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Mar 22, 2009 12:51 AM CST waste
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
is packaging in shops and supermarket to ellborate and would you buy products if they were in plain packs andwould this cut down on waste and make things cheaper
Mar 23, 2009 2:20 AM CST waste
paul1901
paul1901paul1901Alkmarr, North Holland Netherlands8 Threads 2 Polls 69 Posts
wedward: is packaging in shops and supermarket to ellborate and would you buy products if they were in plain packs andwould this cut down on waste and make things cheaper


I have worked in few food prosing factry's in the past and the cost of makeing the packaging ofen cost's more than the food that is inside it.

And it never looks as good as the pic that is on the box.
Mar 24, 2009 5:51 AM CST waste
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria680 Threads 7,252 Posts
paul1901: I have worked in few food prosing factry's in the past and the cost of makeing the packaging ofen cost's more than the food that is inside it.

And it never looks as good as the pic that is on the box.
// no it never does , should there be a charge levied on manufactures say of 2p per package and on supermarkets the same to pay for the disposal of the waste they create and they dont care as long as their product sells why must the taxpayer pay all the time
Mar 25, 2009 8:56 AM CST waste
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
wedward: is packaging in shops and supermarket to ellborate and would you buy products if they were in plain packs andwould this cut down on waste and make things cheaper
The shops DO take back their packaging, and this does cost them. Otherwise I would have to pay for the bags to dispose of it to our local authority. So, the packaging problems have been taken care of.

A new shop opened here, and had very little space for returned junk (packaging).... so people just piled it up outside their doors. Now they have installed a huge metal contraption - Otherwise people will shop at the next town supermarket who does provide this facility.
Mar 25, 2009 9:16 AM CST waste
wedward: // no it never does , should there be a charge levied on manufactures say of 2p per package and on supermarkets the same to pay for the disposal of the waste they create and they dont care as long as their product sells why must the taxpayer pay all the time
To be thrown at the Customer as a Price Increase?dunno In the Past the Junk-Collector came around to buy all that Stuff,now you throw it into a Bin,or deposit it along the Road at certain Weekdays and it will be collected.
Metals,Paper,Cardboard and regular Garbage.conversing
Mar 25, 2009 9:38 AM CST waste
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
wedward: // no it never does , should there be a charge levied on manufactures say of 2p per package and on supermarkets the same to pay for the disposal of the waste they create and they dont care as long as their product sells why must the taxpayer pay all the time


this scheme is in existance in Germany and has been for over 10 years now.
Mar 25, 2009 10:10 AM CST waste
When I worked for the Recycling Project of the Local Brewery in the Bahamas,we recycled the Corrugated Cardboard Boxes.We either pressed them into Big Bundles and sent them Stateside to be recycled(Unusables),or gave them back out to the People that collected the recyclable Bottles.
On the Island where I lived we used empty Tin-cans as Planters,before we set the Plants out into the Field.
The Cans usually were rusted pretty good when the Plants were taken out of them.
Threw the rest into the Compost afterward.conversing
Mar 26, 2009 11:30 AM CST waste
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: When I worked for the Recycling Project of the Local Brewery in the Bahamas,we recycled the Corrugated Cardboard Boxes.We either pressed them into Big Bundles and sent them Stateside to be recycled(Unusables),or gave them back out to the People that collected the recyclable Bottles.
On the Island where I lived we used empty Tin-cans as Planters,before we set the Plants out into the Field.
The Cans usually were rusted pretty good when the Plants were taken out of them.
Threw the rest into the Compost afterward.


On my farm in SA we`d dig a huge hole and all the cans went in there ....with other composty stuff..... eventually an Avocado Pear tree would be planted in that hole - Avos LOVE old tin cans!

Avos that weren`t planted in tin can holes, if they developed fruiting problems, they`d get all the old rusty nails hammered into their trunks .......Then they gave good fruit!cheers
Mar 26, 2009 11:34 AM CST waste
smoky: On my farm in SA we`d dig a huge hole and all the cans went in there ....with other composty stuff..... eventually an Avocado Pear tree would be planted in that hole - Avos LOVE old tin cans!

Avos that weren`t planted in tin can holes, if they developed fruiting problems, they`d get all the old rusty nails hammered into their trunks .......Then they gave good fruit!
They used to call that "Spiking the Tree" in the Bahamas.
It worked,but I'll be hornswoggled if I know why.laugh
Mar 26, 2009 11:40 AM CST waste
Conrad73: They used to call that "Spiking the Tree" in the Bahamas.
It worked,but I'll be hornswoggled if I know why.
Got nearly a Dozen Avocados I have been sprouting from the seeds of the Pears I have been eating over the last year.
Two of them are about 70 centimeters tall,the others have roots and Shoots,and need to be planted in the soil soon.
Haven't got the slightest what I am going to do with them.
Bout three Lichees are sprouting too.doh rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 26, 2009 11:58 AM CST waste
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
In response to: is packaging in shops and supermarket to ellborate and would you buy products if they were in plain packs andwould this cut down on waste and make things cheaper


Exactly how it looked like in the former USSR. Besides the fact that it provided a nutritious ground for numerous scornful jokes, it also was very inconvenient in the everyday life.

I agree though, that what there is now, it’s a huge exaggeration of the whole thing.

But a cheaper wrapping will never make products cheaper, of the simple reason that prices are reluctant to decrease.
Mar 26, 2009 12:17 PM CST waste
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
smoky: On my farm in SA we`d dig a huge hole and all the cans went in there ....with other composty stuff..... eventually an Avocado Pear tree would be planted in that hole - Avos LOVE old tin cans!

Avos that weren`t planted in tin can holes, if they developed fruiting problems, they`d get all the old rusty nails hammered into their trunks .......Then they gave good fruit!


Thanks for the tip, smoky. Is it the extra iron that the avo's thrive on, and if so, I wonder what other plaant would benefit in same way.

The local council is conducting a pilot with a number of households, to collect and recycle food scraps. They are providing people with special plastic bags, and so minimizing people's need to use plastic bags when shopping, as they traditionally collect them to use for household waste. I'm curious as to what will happen with the food waste collected. Whether eventually they will sell it back to the public as compost?dunno
Mar 26, 2009 12:18 PM CST waste
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Conrad73: Got nearly a Dozen Avocados I have been sprouting from the seeds of the Pears I have been eating over the last year.
Two of them are about 70 centimeters tall,the others have roots and Shoots,and need to be planted in the soil soon.
Haven't got the slightest what I am going to do with them.
Bout three Lichees are sprouting too.


You've certainly got the touch, Conrad. A real 'green thumb', as they say.thumbs up
Mar 26, 2009 12:19 PM CST waste
paul1901
paul1901paul1901Alkmarr, North Holland Netherlands8 Threads 2 Polls 69 Posts
Tulefel: The simple reason that prices are reluctant to decrease.


Too true I rember back in the UK when stagering back home from a night out from the pub I'd get to the fish & chip shop and there would be a sign saying... price increase as we are frying new potatoes.. but the price never went down when when thay went back to the old spuds.dunno
Mar 26, 2009 12:31 PM CST waste
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
paul1901: Too true I rember back in the UK when stagering back home from a night out from the pub I'd get to the fish & chip shop and there would be a sign saying... price increase as we are frying new potatoes.. but the price never went down when when thay went back to the old spuds.


Similar things happen here, such as when entire crops of bananas were destroyed in Queensland. Well, initial price increases were understandable due to supply and demand factor. But retailers kept the prices up for ages after crops had resumed to normal.
Mar 26, 2009 12:36 PM CST waste
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
There is the certain lowest level of price that sellers cannot violate: it costs less for them to throw the goods in a garbage basket than to sell cheaper than that
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