Isn't God with Everyone? (217)
SummerUK: If you have such a good heart why can't you leave people alone to believe what they want? Each to his own an all that.....
possibly because all this has been so one sided for so long...
people hate change, like they hate difference (xenophobes) but change happens and differences eventually become the norms all of Canutes efforts came to naught...........
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Please respect some off us do not believe in God...
If there was a God and he is so loving he would have found a cure for alzhmeirs and cancer etc.....
People would not be killing each other JMO...
If there was a God and he is so loving he would have found a cure for alzhmeirs and cancer etc.....
People would not be killing each other JMO...
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Answer to question posed. NOPE!
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No...god is not with everyone....he abandoned me a long time ago
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woody636: Answer to question posed. NOPE!
I have read the stuff you have posted Woody so I have an inkling of where you are coming from - whenever I have said a direct 'nope' to these people they tell me I dont know my own mind ............ I tell them to walk a mile in my shoes.........
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trish123: I have read the stuff you have posted Woody so I have an inkling of where you are coming from - whenever I have said a direct 'nope' to these people they tell me I dont know my own mind ............ I tell them to walk a mile in my shoes.........
Each to his own, I guess. I KNOW where I'm at; I'm responsible for my actions and how/what happens to me. Absolutely NO ONE else. Sometimes good or bad things just happen. Period! Believe its called life.------ This thread is Locked ------
but the usually cant cos their stuff comes from preachers rather than personal experience
they have no concept of what its like to lose a child, they come in with platitudes of gods interventions all linked to 'percieved' platitudes of loss - theres no way they can actually 'know' this, they simply prey on the vulnerable...........
they have no concept of what its like to lose a child, they come in with platitudes of gods interventions all linked to 'percieved' platitudes of loss - theres no way they can actually 'know' this, they simply prey on the vulnerable...........
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HealthyLiving: Walk In The Word
Weekly Walk
By James MacDonald
Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be sober-minded; be watchful.
- 1 Peter 5:5-8
The title asks a great question. Isn't God with everyone? Scripture actually says no, He's not. Certain attitudes actually repel God's presence. The real war, of course, is fought on the inside. He won't show up when these internal attitude sins push Him away.
God is not with the proud.
What significant human problem does not begin with pride? Psalm 138:6 says, "The LORD . . . regards the lowly, but the haughty he knows from afar." If you think you don't need God and can do life on your own, then God respects your choice and stays far away. A proud soul thinks that God is just for weak people. And God backs away and watches; We'll see how that goes for you. Pride is God repellent but God rushes to help the humble person.
God's not with the worldly.
James 4:4 says, "Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." Love for the world and love for God cannot coexist. We all live in this battle. The world tries to drag us down but God wants to pull us out. Face it: if your goal is fixed on satisfying your own self-indulgence and private pleasure, and in getting what you want when you want it, you're worldly.
Listen up, friend. These warnings are for all of us. James 3:2 says that "we all stumble in many ways." None of us are perfect people - just forgiven. That said, our relationship with God is dependent on how we deal with our own sin. When God shows you your sin in the mirror and you repent of it as soon as you realize it, and humbly ask Him for forgiveness and strength to not return to that sin again, God's mercy floods over you. But if you hide your sin, thinking, No one's going to stop me from doing what I want to do. I don't care that it's sin; I'm doing it anyway, that's harboring sin and it's so dangerous.
Categorically, the Lord is not with everyone - not with the proud or the worldly - but He can be with you. He is with you if your heart is yielded to Him, if you've turned from your sin and embraced Christ by faith and you're seeking every day to walk in obedience to Him.
Weekly Walk
By James MacDonald
Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be sober-minded; be watchful.
- 1 Peter 5:5-8
The title asks a great question. Isn't God with everyone? Scripture actually says no, He's not. Certain attitudes actually repel God's presence. The real war, of course, is fought on the inside. He won't show up when these internal attitude sins push Him away.
God is not with the proud.
What significant human problem does not begin with pride? Psalm 138:6 says, "The LORD . . . regards the lowly, but the haughty he knows from afar." If you think you don't need God and can do life on your own, then God respects your choice and stays far away. A proud soul thinks that God is just for weak people. And God backs away and watches; We'll see how that goes for you. Pride is God repellent but God rushes to help the humble person.
God's not with the worldly.
James 4:4 says, "Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." Love for the world and love for God cannot coexist. We all live in this battle. The world tries to drag us down but God wants to pull us out. Face it: if your goal is fixed on satisfying your own self-indulgence and private pleasure, and in getting what you want when you want it, you're worldly.
Listen up, friend. These warnings are for all of us. James 3:2 says that "we all stumble in many ways." None of us are perfect people - just forgiven. That said, our relationship with God is dependent on how we deal with our own sin. When God shows you your sin in the mirror and you repent of it as soon as you realize it, and humbly ask Him for forgiveness and strength to not return to that sin again, God's mercy floods over you. But if you hide your sin, thinking, No one's going to stop me from doing what I want to do. I don't care that it's sin; I'm doing it anyway, that's harboring sin and it's so dangerous.
Categorically, the Lord is not with everyone - not with the proud or the worldly - but He can be with you. He is with you if your heart is yielded to Him, if you've turned from your sin and embraced Christ by faith and you're seeking every day to walk in obedience to Him.
NO! Never, on a big Fishing trip and his Phone is of the Hook, Why????
Ask the 19,000,000 children that Die every year, around the WORLD!++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Were is GOD??????
It`s Written God only Helps the ones how Help themselves.
S STOP Praying to HIM! He will never help YOU, It`s up To YOUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
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HealthyLiving: Walk In The Word
Weekly Walk
By James MacDonald
Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be sober-minded; be watchful.
- 1 Peter 5:5-8
The title asks a great question. Isn't God with everyone? Scripture actually says no, He's not. Certain attitudes actually repel God's presence. The real war, of course, is fought on the inside. He won't show up when these internal attitude sins push Him away.
God is not with the proud.
What significant human problem does not begin with pride? Psalm 138:6 says, "The LORD . . . regards the lowly, but the haughty he knows from afar." If you think you don't need God and can do life on your own, then God respects your choice and stays far away. A proud soul thinks that God is just for weak people. And God backs away and watches; We'll see how that goes for you. Pride is God repellent but God rushes to help the humble person.
God's not with the worldly.
James 4:4 says, "Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." Love for the world and love for God cannot coexist. We all live in this battle. The world tries to drag us down but God wants to pull us out. Face it: if your goal is fixed on satisfying your own self-indulgence and private pleasure, and in getting what you want when you want it, you're worldly.
Listen up, friend. These warnings are for all of us. James 3:2 says that "we all stumble in many ways." None of us are perfect people - just forgiven. That said, our relationship with God is dependent on how we deal with our own sin. When God shows you your sin in the mirror and you repent of it as soon as you realize it, and humbly ask Him for forgiveness and strength to not return to that sin again, God's mercy floods over you. But if you hide your sin, thinking, No one's going to stop me from doing what I want to do. I don't care that it's sin; I'm doing it anyway, that's harboring sin and it's so dangerous.
Categorically, the Lord is not with everyone - not with the proud or the worldly - but He can be with you. He is with you if your heart is yielded to Him, if you've turned from your sin and embraced Christ by faith and you're seeking every day to walk in obedience to Him.
Weekly Walk
By James MacDonald
Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be sober-minded; be watchful.
- 1 Peter 5:5-8
The title asks a great question. Isn't God with everyone? Scripture actually says no, He's not. Certain attitudes actually repel God's presence. The real war, of course, is fought on the inside. He won't show up when these internal attitude sins push Him away.
God is not with the proud.
What significant human problem does not begin with pride? Psalm 138:6 says, "The LORD . . . regards the lowly, but the haughty he knows from afar." If you think you don't need God and can do life on your own, then God respects your choice and stays far away. A proud soul thinks that God is just for weak people. And God backs away and watches; We'll see how that goes for you. Pride is God repellent but God rushes to help the humble person.
God's not with the worldly.
James 4:4 says, "Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." Love for the world and love for God cannot coexist. We all live in this battle. The world tries to drag us down but God wants to pull us out. Face it: if your goal is fixed on satisfying your own self-indulgence and private pleasure, and in getting what you want when you want it, you're worldly.
Listen up, friend. These warnings are for all of us. James 3:2 says that "we all stumble in many ways." None of us are perfect people - just forgiven. That said, our relationship with God is dependent on how we deal with our own sin. When God shows you your sin in the mirror and you repent of it as soon as you realize it, and humbly ask Him for forgiveness and strength to not return to that sin again, God's mercy floods over you. But if you hide your sin, thinking, No one's going to stop me from doing what I want to do. I don't care that it's sin; I'm doing it anyway, that's harboring sin and it's so dangerous.
Categorically, the Lord is not with everyone - not with the proud or the worldly - but He can be with you. He is with you if your heart is yielded to Him, if you've turned from your sin and embraced Christ by faith and you're seeking every day to walk in obedience to Him.
Hey... God's grace covers all... even those who don't deserve it...so abundant is his love... that does not mean that evil does not exists... just that Gods Grace is ever present... also.. God can choose to be with who he wants in fact he frequently chose the most unlikely of characters to use in the most powerful of ways... like e.g. Saul(big time persecutor of Christians)or that Guy that wrote 'Amazing Grace'.... (he was an EVEN more enthusiastic Athiest than Crot or Trish... great book btw) Both these people and more were Proud arrogant etc etc but yet God chose to use them... why? Because it is a more effective illustration of his Grace and Power over a situation than where he does the predictable and obvious...
How are u sweetie... hope u don't mind... just feel strongly about this cause I am a huge fan of there being hope for even the biggest sinner... also am a big fan of Paul, who was a tyrant until he was transformed by God..
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woody636: Really, really sorry about your daughter, Trish. Having gone thru it, it's not something I'd wish on my worst enemy. To say it was the worse time I've ever experienced does not due the feeling justice. For all intents and purposes, I was dead or insane or both for the following two years. You've been there; you know EXACTLY what I mean. After, you reassess your whole life and value system. Profound changes. "Things" don't mean anything anymore; it's strictly about people and how they feel. God doesn't or didn't have time for me; I don't have time for him.
Religionists ususally recruit from people such as you and i Woody, Im happy to see you, like myself, didnt weaken in this respect -
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woody636: Really, really sorry about your daughter, Trish. Having gone thru it, it's not something I'd wish on my worst enemy. To say it was the worse time I've ever experienced does not due the feeling justice. For all intents and purposes, I was dead or insane or both for the following two years. You've been there; you know EXACTLY what I mean. After, you reassess your whole life and value system. Profound changes. "Things" don't mean anything anymore; it's strictly about people and how they feel. God doesn't or didn't have time for me; I don't have time for him.
I dealt with it, after a whole year of being a zombie, by signing up to a university course - i was 4 yrs at uni and it was a constant vigil against negativity - I dont know how you did it Woody
but when the vicar came to me at the hospital - i was already an unbeliever - I told him right exactly where to get off, very politely of course, but unmistakably all the same
theres some kinda mistaken belief that when atheists are faced with such trials, that they give in to god - like hell I did
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nothernstar: NO! Never, on a big Fishing trip and his Phone is of the Hook, Why????Ask the 19,000,000 children that Die every year, around the WORLD!++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Were is GOD??????
It`s Written God only Helps the ones how Help themselves.
S STOP Praying to HIM! He will never help YOU, It`s up To YOUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
Were is GOD??????
It`s Written God only Helps the ones how Help themselves.
S STOP Praying to HIM! He will never help YOU, It`s up To YOUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
I have seen my prayers answered in the most specific of ways... I have seen doors opened that were locked shut through prayer.. I have seen (first hand) amazing healing (even Cancer) even just this week my prayers have been answered in such a specific way that I can't help but to stand in complete awe of my God..
E.g. for some years now I have had it on my heart to do something for inner city children.. since working as a lawyer in the Childrens Court etc in the area of Criminal Law.. I have felt a strong desire to do something about this, but I did not know where to begin and my Church (who are only newly formed, were a bit luke warm)... but the weight on my heart persisted... I was really unsure what to do or where to begin or whether it was even the right thing for me to do... until recently the feeling was so strong that I really called out to God for some kind of sign, something to show me that I was on the right track... that day... STRAIGHT after the prayer.. I bumped into a girl who does youth outreach in the inner City for Glasgow.. dont know how are why but we ended up talking about this and she gave me loads of advice... encouraged by this I approached my pastor, who because of my prayer being answered said yes he would support me.. but I was told I had to pray for more people... specifically people with a heart in this area.... THAT DAY...I bumped into a girl who had just entered the Church that DAY who again in conversation said she had a huge heart for this work and had done it back home in her country.... THEN I prayed for some release in my finances, because if I am going to focus on what needs to be done I will need some more freedom financially... TODAY at approximately 13:30pm I received a call from a Solicitor telling me that I am going to receive a check for 4.5k for a job that I had even forgotten about I had finished it so long ago... phew and FINALLY..... in conversation with a person for an unrelated thing... a state official volunteered information to me (didnt ask) re funding for community projects which have a charitable objective thereby increasing the likelyhood that financially we can make this vision a reality......
YES... prayers DO GET ANSWERED... YOU BET!!!... I am still in a state of disbelief as all of the above has happened in the last week all since I pleaded with God to reveal to me whether he wanted me to pursue this vision or not.. his answer... a resounding YES!!!!
God Bless!!
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Tamarin: Please respect some off us do not believe in God...
If there was a God and he is so loving he would have found a cure for alzhmeirs and cancer etc.....
People would not be killing each other JMO...
If there was a God and he is so loving he would have found a cure for alzhmeirs and cancer etc.....
People would not be killing each other JMO...
There ARE cures. They are all covered up by the FDA. Any doctor who cures cancer by natural means will get a SWAT team visit - not good for Big Pharma Business.
But people can still do research and treat themselves. Try Dr. Mercola and
People kill each other because they are sinners in need of salvation. Hence the need to preach the Gospel.
Documentary was on the other night about that famous atheist who ended up getting murdered.
Guess she would have liked to have had "Thou shalt not murder" taught to her attacker as a kid huh.
Bible says "Moses was very meek, more than all the people on the face of the earth". The true secret to his greatness?
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Aries01: I have seen my prayers answered in the most specific of ways... I have seen doors opened that were locked shut through prayer.. I have seen (first hand) amazing healing (even Cancer) even just this week my prayers have been answered in such a specific way that I can't help but to stand in complete awe of my God..
E.g. for some years now I have had it on my heart to do something for inner city children.. since working as a lawyer in the Childrens Court etc in the area of Criminal Law.. I have felt a strong desire to do something about this, but I did not know where to begin and my Church (who are only newly formed, were a bit luke warm)... but the weight on my heart persisted... I was really unsure what to do or where to begin or whether it was even the right thing for me to do... until recently the feeling was so strong that I really called out to God for some kind of sign, something to show me that I was on the right track... that day... STRAIGHT after the prayer.. I bumped into a girl who does youth outreach in the inner City for Glasgow.. dont know how are why but we ended up talking about this and she gave me loads of advice... encouraged by this I approached my pastor, who because of my prayer being answered said yes he would support me.. but I was told I had to pray for more people... specifically people with a heart in this area.... THAT DAY...I bumped into a girl who had just entered the Church that DAY who again in conversation said she had a huge heart for this work and had done it back home in her country.... THEN I prayed for some release in my finances, because if I am going to focus on what needs to be done I will need some more freedom financially... TODAY at approximately 13:30pm I received a call from a Solicitor telling me that I am going to receive a check for 4.5k for a job that I had even forgotten about I had finished it so long ago... phew and FINALLY..... in conversation with a person for an unrelated thing... a state official volunteered information to me (didnt ask) re funding for community projects which have a charitable objective thereby increasing the likelyhood that financially we can make this vision a reality......
YES... prayers DO GET ANSWERED... YOU BET!!!... I am still in a state of disbelief as all of the above has happened in the last week all since I pleaded with God to reveal to me whether he wanted me to pursue this vision or not.. his answer... a resounding YES!!!!
God Bless!!
E.g. for some years now I have had it on my heart to do something for inner city children.. since working as a lawyer in the Childrens Court etc in the area of Criminal Law.. I have felt a strong desire to do something about this, but I did not know where to begin and my Church (who are only newly formed, were a bit luke warm)... but the weight on my heart persisted... I was really unsure what to do or where to begin or whether it was even the right thing for me to do... until recently the feeling was so strong that I really called out to God for some kind of sign, something to show me that I was on the right track... that day... STRAIGHT after the prayer.. I bumped into a girl who does youth outreach in the inner City for Glasgow.. dont know how are why but we ended up talking about this and she gave me loads of advice... encouraged by this I approached my pastor, who because of my prayer being answered said yes he would support me.. but I was told I had to pray for more people... specifically people with a heart in this area.... THAT DAY...I bumped into a girl who had just entered the Church that DAY who again in conversation said she had a huge heart for this work and had done it back home in her country.... THEN I prayed for some release in my finances, because if I am going to focus on what needs to be done I will need some more freedom financially... TODAY at approximately 13:30pm I received a call from a Solicitor telling me that I am going to receive a check for 4.5k for a job that I had even forgotten about I had finished it so long ago... phew and FINALLY..... in conversation with a person for an unrelated thing... a state official volunteered information to me (didnt ask) re funding for community projects which have a charitable objective thereby increasing the likelyhood that financially we can make this vision a reality......
YES... prayers DO GET ANSWERED... YOU BET!!!... I am still in a state of disbelief as all of the above has happened in the last week all since I pleaded with God to reveal to me whether he wanted me to pursue this vision or not.. his answer... a resounding YES!!!!
God Bless!!
Once again I'll try to get an answer....I haven't asked you before but Ive asked others and they disappear.
Why does God answer your prayers and not others? Simple question that no one seems to want to answer
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Aries01: I have seen my prayers answered in the most specific of ways... I have seen doors opened that were locked shut through prayer.. I have seen (first hand) amazing healing (even Cancer) even just this week my prayers have been answered in such a specific way that I can't help but to stand in complete awe of my God..
E.g. for some years now I have had it on my heart to do something for inner city children.. since working as a lawyer in the Childrens Court etc in the area of Criminal Law.. I have felt a strong desire to do something about this, but I did not know where to begin and my Church (who are only newly formed, were a bit luke warm)... but the weight on my heart persisted... I was really unsure what to do or where to begin or whether it was even the right thing for me to do... until recently the feeling was so strong that I really called out to God for some kind of sign, something to show me that I was on the right track... that day... STRAIGHT after the prayer.. I bumped into a girl who does youth outreach in the inner City for Glasgow.. dont know how are why but we ended up talking about this and she gave me loads of advice... encouraged by this I approached my pastor, who because of my prayer being answered said yes he would support me.. but I was told I had to pray for more people... specifically people with a heart in this area.... THAT DAY...I bumped into a girl who had just entered the Church that DAY who again in conversation said she had a huge heart for this work and had done it back home in her country.... THEN I prayed for some release in my finances, because if I am going to focus on what needs to be done I will need some more freedom financially... TODAY at approximately 13:30pm I received a call from a Solicitor telling me that I am going to receive a check for 4.5k for a job that I had even forgotten about I had finished it so long ago... phew and FINALLY..... in conversation with a person for an unrelated thing... a state official volunteered information to me (didnt ask) re funding for community projects which have a charitable objective thereby increasing the likelyhood that financially we can make this vision a reality......
YES... prayers DO GET ANSWERED... YOU BET!!!... I am still in a state of disbelief as all of the above has happened in the last week all since I pleaded with God to reveal to me whether he wanted me to pursue this vision or not.. his answer... a resounding YES!!!!
God Bless!!
E.g. for some years now I have had it on my heart to do something for inner city children.. since working as a lawyer in the Childrens Court etc in the area of Criminal Law.. I have felt a strong desire to do something about this, but I did not know where to begin and my Church (who are only newly formed, were a bit luke warm)... but the weight on my heart persisted... I was really unsure what to do or where to begin or whether it was even the right thing for me to do... until recently the feeling was so strong that I really called out to God for some kind of sign, something to show me that I was on the right track... that day... STRAIGHT after the prayer.. I bumped into a girl who does youth outreach in the inner City for Glasgow.. dont know how are why but we ended up talking about this and she gave me loads of advice... encouraged by this I approached my pastor, who because of my prayer being answered said yes he would support me.. but I was told I had to pray for more people... specifically people with a heart in this area.... THAT DAY...I bumped into a girl who had just entered the Church that DAY who again in conversation said she had a huge heart for this work and had done it back home in her country.... THEN I prayed for some release in my finances, because if I am going to focus on what needs to be done I will need some more freedom financially... TODAY at approximately 13:30pm I received a call from a Solicitor telling me that I am going to receive a check for 4.5k for a job that I had even forgotten about I had finished it so long ago... phew and FINALLY..... in conversation with a person for an unrelated thing... a state official volunteered information to me (didnt ask) re funding for community projects which have a charitable objective thereby increasing the likelyhood that financially we can make this vision a reality......
YES... prayers DO GET ANSWERED... YOU BET!!!... I am still in a state of disbelief as all of the above has happened in the last week all since I pleaded with God to reveal to me whether he wanted me to pursue this vision or not.. his answer... a resounding YES!!!!
God Bless!!
Interesting. I believe it.
Though I do not believe in God, I do believe in asking (praying as you'd define it) and signs-answers will come. I've experienced the same things first hand (law of attraction). I just ask (like in talking to myself) and the signs and answers always come...but it's not always or rarely going to be that easy or perfect. Negative comes with positive. But that's with anything.
A prayer is a powerful thought-frequency which the universe (that you can create) will receive and give back in signs, synchronicity, and answers. The next thing is to ACT! Nothing happens if you don't act or don't even ask or pray for in the first place. Your thoughts, wishes and intentions will draw the possibilities closer to you if you focus on it and believe in it.
Again, I've seen the truth in this. Try it!
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I haven't got all my prayers answered... this last 12 months have been extremely difficult for me on some levels, as my life and everything about it was totally transformed when I became a Christian.. and it wasn't easy... I had to give up an awful lot, my priorities had to shift I had to acknowledge all my flaws and it seemed as if.. not only was everything taken away from me but also that every door was being shut.. not that it was all THAT bad.. but I have cried many a tear... and I have prayed MANY a prayer...I think (my theory at least) is that God is an ordered God.. he has an overall plan and he has an overall purpose and he has a plan and a purpose for our lives...things go wrong when we do not align with that... we have free will... sure.. but are we competent to manage our own lives in the most effective way?.. hmmmm judging from what mankind is doing to himself.... perhaps not 
.. anyhow..in MY experience.. once you align with God (generally selfless 'larger than self' purposes..) then things just seem to 'fall into place' and prayers do get answered...
Also God is also very much and 'overall picture' kinda guy in the sense that we do not always see where he is going with something until sometimes years later.. also his priorities and what he thinks is important differs.. for example we think death is a bad thing... he doesn't... our mortal coil is of little consequence in the grand scheme of things...we cry bitter tears on anger when we lose a loved one... he embraces them when they enter his kingdom...
Just my view of course.. but to me he is very real and he is amazing in just how faithful he can be...
Seek ye first the kingdom of God..... and the rest shall be added unto you... that kinda explains it to me....
.. anyhow..in MY experience.. once you align with God (generally selfless 'larger than self' purposes..) then things just seem to 'fall into place' and prayers do get answered...Also God is also very much and 'overall picture' kinda guy in the sense that we do not always see where he is going with something until sometimes years later.. also his priorities and what he thinks is important differs.. for example we think death is a bad thing... he doesn't... our mortal coil is of little consequence in the grand scheme of things...we cry bitter tears on anger when we lose a loved one... he embraces them when they enter his kingdom...
Just my view of course.. but to me he is very real and he is amazing in just how faithful he can be...
Seek ye first the kingdom of God..... and the rest shall be added unto you... that kinda explains it to me....
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StressFree: Hi Laura
If I did believe in a God, I think the fact that we have free will is part of our experience as earthlings...to observe, experience, and confront these types of cruel adversities. It's part of the package here on this plane of existence.
To be honest, I'm confused (not really) as to why everybody thinks this God should make everything perfect for us? That's our jobs as individuals and as a collective society. Where do people get this idea that it's God's responsibility to roll out the carpet for us? We are meant to be on earth to encounter the horrible atrocities that we see everyday.
Live and learn. Our spiritual souls can not develop-evolve if we are in a nice little perfect world.
If I did believe in a God, I think the fact that we have free will is part of our experience as earthlings...to observe, experience, and confront these types of cruel adversities. It's part of the package here on this plane of existence.
To be honest, I'm confused (not really) as to why everybody thinks this God should make everything perfect for us? That's our jobs as individuals and as a collective society. Where do people get this idea that it's God's responsibility to roll out the carpet for us? We are meant to be on earth to encounter the horrible atrocities that we see everyday.
Live and learn. Our spiritual souls can not develop-evolve if we are in a nice little perfect world.
Hey SF
I am with you on this one.
More, I don't think many people do have these expectations for "the carpet to be rolled for us"...
but
when I hear "Isn't God with Everyone?", I can't help envisioning "them" doing all those awful things together.
It's either s/he is in everyone Or s/he isn't.
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2 types of evil - moral (mans inhumanity to man) natural evil (nature intiated)..... alot of natural problems are magnified by people i.e. corruption increases in such environments because fear led greed is more likely to fester....
intellectual problem of evil.... how can there be evil?
emotional problem... how can we comfort suffering that results from evil? they are to be addressed seperately in separate ways.. one approach is not suited to the other
RE 1. logical argument - how is it possible?... if you have an unstoppable force and and immovable object cannot exist together... they are saying you can't have evil AND God... this argument is based on two erroneous assumptions..
1. God can make any world he wants... and that everyone would be free and always choose to do good and NOT evil... error.. just because all powerful.. doesn't mean he can do a logical impossibility... a square is a square a circle is a circle.. if God gives us free choice.. then people can choose to do evil or do good..
2. God would prefer a world without evil.. sometimes evil is desired because it will bring out a greater good in the end... e.g adversity shapes us as people and as a world... we are designed to evolve...
How would we develop such valuble traits as compassion, empathy, forgiveness if we had never experienced adversity... and how much better off are we that we can experience and share these things?.. also you have a child... are you going to wrap it in cotton wool?.. is that a good thing... or will you let the child experience life and learn from it (within reason of course)
Fact is God puts an extremely high premium on free choice...
Think... arranged marriage v marriage based on love and commitment!!... he wants the latter... and he even just wants that cause we are altogether MORE effective as human beings when we are living for something/one other than ourselves.. when we are led by ego...thats when the trouble starts
intellectual problem of evil.... how can there be evil?
emotional problem... how can we comfort suffering that results from evil? they are to be addressed seperately in separate ways.. one approach is not suited to the other
RE 1. logical argument - how is it possible?... if you have an unstoppable force and and immovable object cannot exist together... they are saying you can't have evil AND God... this argument is based on two erroneous assumptions..
1. God can make any world he wants... and that everyone would be free and always choose to do good and NOT evil... error.. just because all powerful.. doesn't mean he can do a logical impossibility... a square is a square a circle is a circle.. if God gives us free choice.. then people can choose to do evil or do good..
2. God would prefer a world without evil.. sometimes evil is desired because it will bring out a greater good in the end... e.g adversity shapes us as people and as a world... we are designed to evolve...
How would we develop such valuble traits as compassion, empathy, forgiveness if we had never experienced adversity... and how much better off are we that we can experience and share these things?.. also you have a child... are you going to wrap it in cotton wool?.. is that a good thing... or will you let the child experience life and learn from it (within reason of course)
Fact is God puts an extremely high premium on free choice...
Think... arranged marriage v marriage based on love and commitment!!... he wants the latter... and he even just wants that cause we are altogether MORE effective as human beings when we are living for something/one other than ourselves.. when we are led by ego...thats when the trouble starts
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norslyman: There ARE cures. They are all covered up by the FDA. Any doctor who cures cancer by natural means will get a SWAT team visit - not good for Big Pharma Business.
But people can still do research and treat themselves. Try Dr. Mercola and
People kill each other because they are sinners in need of salvation. Hence the need to preach the Gospel. Documentary was on the other night about that famous atheist who ended up getting murdered. Guess she would have liked to have had "Thou shalt not murder" taught to her attacker as a kid huh.
Bible says "Moses was very meek, more than all the people on the face of the earth". The true secret to his greatness?
But people can still do research and treat themselves. Try Dr. Mercola and
People kill each other because they are sinners in need of salvation. Hence the need to preach the Gospel. Documentary was on the other night about that famous atheist who ended up getting murdered. Guess she would have liked to have had "Thou shalt not murder" taught to her attacker as a kid huh.
Bible says "Moses was very meek, more than all the people on the face of the earth". The true secret to his greatness?
David Karish, Charles Manson,,,Paul Shafer,,etc ,,these names come to mind when someone preachs religion to me. Religion has been exploited for centurys,,has been the basis for so many horrendous crimes
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Weekly Walk
By James MacDonald
Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be sober-minded; be watchful.
- 1 Peter 5:5-8
The title asks a great question. Isn't God with everyone? Scripture actually says no, He's not. Certain attitudes actually repel God's presence. The real war, of course, is fought on the inside. He won't show up when these internal attitude sins push Him away.
God is not with the proud.
What significant human problem does not begin with pride? Psalm 138:6 says, "The LORD . . . regards the lowly, but the haughty he knows from afar." If you think you don't need God and can do life on your own, then God respects your choice and stays far away. A proud soul thinks that God is just for weak people. And God backs away and watches; We'll see how that goes for you. Pride is God repellent but God rushes to help the humble person.
God's not with the worldly.
James 4:4 says, "Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." Love for the world and love for God cannot coexist. We all live in this battle. The world tries to drag us down but God wants to pull us out. Face it: if your goal is fixed on satisfying your own self-indulgence and private pleasure, and in getting what you want when you want it, you're worldly.
Listen up, friend. These warnings are for all of us. James 3:2 says that "we all stumble in many ways." None of us are perfect people - just forgiven. That said, our relationship with God is dependent on how we deal with our own sin. When God shows you your sin in the mirror and you repent of it as soon as you realize it, and humbly ask Him for forgiveness and strength to not return to that sin again, God's mercy floods over you. But if you hide your sin, thinking, No one's going to stop me from doing what I want to do. I don't care that it's sin; I'm doing it anyway, that's harboring sin and it's so dangerous.
Categorically, the Lord is not with everyone - not with the proud or the worldly - but He can be with you. He is with you if your heart is yielded to Him, if you've turned from your sin and embraced Christ by faith and you're seeking every day to walk in obedience to Him.