Iran Sentence American Journalist to 8 Year for Spying (144)
rocketqueen: oh and the US has never held anyone from muslim countries for 'trumped up charges' before??
Got any names?
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jbibiza: If America wants to tell other countries how to run things, then they need to set the example. How many are being held in the US with no due process... only suspicion? How can you write "not in my country"?
I feel terrible for the woman involved and because she was a former beauty pagent contestant doesn´t mean she´s stupid and could easily be working for the CIA... we don´t know the whole story.
How can America say anything about this when so many are being held without due process?
I feel terrible for the woman involved and because she was a former beauty pagent contestant doesn´t mean she´s stupid and could easily be working for the CIA... we don´t know the whole story.
How can America say anything about this when so many are being held without due process?
Don't get your undies in a bunch...Obama will free all of them. Of course, some went back to terrorism...but it's not that big of an issue.
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Well, if she worked for NPR....I don't think there's much of a reason to complain. 
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Indyfella: Don't get your undies in a bunch...Obama will free all of them. Of course, some went back to terrorism...but it's not that big of an issue.
indy if i named names, as i have said before in my previous posts, it would take up the whole forum...........you pertain to be an intelligent man, you would know this is true FGS!!......now show me which detainees went back to terrorism????
the US could never convict MOST of them on any charges (I have heard of ONE being convicted and jailed)....from all accounts, they cannot go back to thier homelands due to the fact that they will probably be KILLED in case they have said ANYTHING (possibly something even as benign as where certain government offices are) to the US government, under torture...............
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kidatheart: Hi R
Just gotta love the way some of this is presented, to villify Democrats at any cost, and hold Republicans up like they're saints.
What a bunch of BS.
Just gotta love the way some of this is presented, to villify Democrats at any cost, and hold Republicans up like they're saints.
What a bunch of BS.
hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ttom500: This has some potential international problems between the US and Iran to it.
A American/Iranian journalist, one Roxana Saberi, 31, was sentenced to 8 years in prison for 'spying'. Here are a few items of note.
There one day trial was held behind closed doors with only her Iranian Attroney present. He will appeal.
Her father says she was there doing research on a book on the Iranian Culture and People.
The Iranian Government says that they have proof of the spying, but doesn't provide it publically.
The DEM Senator from her state is asking the Iranian Gov't for
compassion to be shown.
President Obama administration has been largely quiet on the issue. With one brief statement on the issue so far. While the Iranian government said this should not effect developing US/Iran relationship or talks.
She represented North Datoka in the USA pageant. She is a former beauty queen. She had been in Iran for 6 years as a freelancer. She worked for BBC and National Public Radio in the past.
Iran holds Presidential elections in two months and there are signs that the present hard line Regieme of Pres. A. is weak at the polls against reformers canididates/parties.
Speculation is that hardliners within the Iran legal system are trying to side track the US/Iran talks on nuclear weapons and nuclear programs of Iran.
Thoughts?
article at:
This link seems to be dead.....but is AP article Titled:
Iran Convicts US Journalist of Spying
A search should bring it up.
A American/Iranian journalist, one Roxana Saberi, 31, was sentenced to 8 years in prison for 'spying'. Here are a few items of note.
There one day trial was held behind closed doors with only her Iranian Attroney present. He will appeal.
Her father says she was there doing research on a book on the Iranian Culture and People.
The Iranian Government says that they have proof of the spying, but doesn't provide it publically.
The DEM Senator from her state is asking the Iranian Gov't for
compassion to be shown.
President Obama administration has been largely quiet on the issue. With one brief statement on the issue so far. While the Iranian government said this should not effect developing US/Iran relationship or talks.
She represented North Datoka in the USA pageant. She is a former beauty queen. She had been in Iran for 6 years as a freelancer. She worked for BBC and National Public Radio in the past.
Iran holds Presidential elections in two months and there are signs that the present hard line Regieme of Pres. A. is weak at the polls against reformers canididates/parties.
Speculation is that hardliners within the Iran legal system are trying to side track the US/Iran talks on nuclear weapons and nuclear programs of Iran.
Thoughts?
article at:
This link seems to be dead.....but is AP article Titled:
Iran Convicts US Journalist of Spying
A search should bring it up.
She should be punished as per the law of the country is she is found to be guilty .whoever she was .What you would have done if you caught a Iranian spy in your country ?
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So now she has not only been convicted in the Iranian Kangaroo-Court,but also in the CS Kangaroo-Court with even less evidence than the Iranians put forward?
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bollywood: She should be punished as per the law of the country is she is found to be guilty .whoever she was .What you would have done if you caught a Iranian spy in your country ?
I would first want the Iranian spy to have a fair trial...with a open process. That way my countries justice is best done. What the Iranians have done here is to place their justice behind locked doors. To hide it in some mystical manner.
This leads one to think that Mullahs and Clerics of Iran, control to even minor matters as court cases. Can Iran be said to be a free country, when even the courts of Iran act like religious servants?
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Conrad73: So now she has not only been convicted in the Iranian Kangaroo-Court,but also in the CS Kangaroo-Court with even less evidence than the Iranians put forward?
Iran is a nation with its own legal system .You cannot call them by names . If she is found guilty .let her face the law. its thats simple.
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Tbilisigal: Iran is a nation with its own legal system .You cannot call them by names . If she is found guilty .let her face the law. its thats simple.
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ttom500: I would first want the Iranian spy to have a fair trial...with a open process. That way my countries justice is best done. What the Iranians have done here is to place their justice behind locked doors. To hide it in some mystical manner.
This leads one to think that Mullahs and Clerics of Iran, control to even minor matters as court cases. Can Iran be said to be a free country, when even the courts of Iran act like religious servants?
This leads one to think that Mullahs and Clerics of Iran, control to even minor matters as court cases. Can Iran be said to be a free country, when even the courts of Iran act like religious servants?
Tom , I agree this was the case , but how many countries have free trials on the moles and spies . You detain the suspects in your detention facilites in Cuba years ony on doubts and with no evedence and try them with most crulest way. You kill "suspected" militants in Pakistan border without a chance . Let the Mullas and Cleric control Iran . That is their system. let them go with that .
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Tbilisigal: Iran is a nation with its own legal system .You cannot call them by names . If she is found guilty .let her face the law. its thats simple.
If Iran had some concrete Evidence it would be all over the Networks.It's a test for Obama,to see how far they can go with him.
The Woman is just the Pawn.
It is sad that ANY Government thinks so little about the Individual!
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ttom500: I would first want the Iranian spy to have a fair trial...with a open process. That way my countries justice is best done. What the Iranians have done here is to place their justice behind locked doors. To hide it in some mystical manner.
This leads one to think that Mullahs and Clerics of Iran, control to even minor matters as court cases. Can Iran be said to be a free country, when even the courts of Iran act like religious servants?
This leads one to think that Mullahs and Clerics of Iran, control to even minor matters as court cases. Can Iran be said to be a free country, when even the courts of Iran act like religious servants?
iran isnt a free country and neither is america tom.....
do you honestly think that america gives open and fair trials to everyone put before the court system in the US?
HAVNT YOU EVER WATCHED JUDGE JUDY???????
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Conrad73: If Iran had some concrete Evidence it would be all over the Networks.
It's a test for Obama,to see how far they can go with him.
The Woman is just the Pawn.
It is sad that ANY Government thinks so little about the Individual!
It's a test for Obama,to see how far they can go with him.
The Woman is just the Pawn.
It is sad that ANY Government thinks so little about the Individual!
CONRAD THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT IS BASICALLY A CLOSED BOOK IN AS FAR OF FREEDOM OF INFORMATION.......YOU EVEN KNOW THAT
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rocketqueen: CONRAD THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT IS BASICALLY A CLOSED BOOK IN AS FAR OF FREEDOM OF INFORMATION.......YOU EVEN KNOW THAT
Not if they have something to smear over the Networks!Then Bignose is pretty quick about it!
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Tbilisigal: Tom , I agree this was the case , but how many countries have free trials on the moles and spies . You detain the suspects in your detention facilites in Cuba years ony on doubts and with no evedence and try them with most crulest way. You kill "suspected" militants in Pakistan border without a chance . Let the Mullas and Cleric control Iran . That is their system. let them go with that .
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jbibiza: No... I don´t believe that two wrongs make a right... but I do hold America to a higher standard then i would Iran... after all they don´t claim to be the leaders of the "free world". Leaders teach by example.
That leader of the free world, a long time ago decided that Islamic piracy on the high seas was a offense for military actions. Thomas Jefferson the writer of our Constitution, when President was faced with Islamic piracy made that policy.
He held off in making it a military issue until some American women were taken captive by these pirates. Then he ordered the
US Marines to battle.....and today we have them remembered in words of their hymm..."from the shores of Tripoli".
The reason I bring this up. Is that few know but there are women and children, both as officers families and as paying passenger, are on some merchant vessels that the Solami pirates can attack. The day the Solami pirates take hostage a merchant vessel with Western women and children on board, is the day when many here want will strong military operations in the country.
You ask what connection between this Iranian situation and Solami piracy is there? Just that a state sponsored act of terrorism is no better than the terrorist act of a group. The woman has already faced for several months a death sentence if convicted of the spying charges. She now face 8 years in a Iranian prison.
If the arrest and conviction ARE MERELY Iranian gov't interplays for positioning on the Obama talks. Then what she has faced is approximate to what Captain Bowlen faced as captive of the Solami pirates. The Iranian acts are nothing more than state sponsored terrorism for political purpose, where as the Solami pirate is terrorism for monetary purpose.
Instead of being done by AK-47 and a group of armed men, it
was done by an arresting armed Iranian police officers and a Iranian Islamic court. What is the difference? It is still hostage taking. It is still fear causing to the hostage taken.
I respect the Solami pirate more than I do the Iranian government. At least the Somali pirates risk their own lives to go sea in small open boats to take their hostages. The Iranian gov't waits for 6 years to press charges and take hostage a woman for bad press credentials.
What does that mean 'bad press credentials'? A typo on her press pass? But with the evidence that Iran shows, one can think exactly that. Also she was well known as a journalist. I have seen now exerts of major TV pieces she had done around the world. Clearly she did news reporting.
Just like Bensair Bhutto was made into a mrytar for Islamic women around the world. The Irainian government is making this American Muslim woman a mrytar. Her unjust conviction is just as offensive as the treatment of Mrs. Bhutto in Pakistan. With a house arrest after she was attacked the first time.
Wise Muslim women will note the Iranian treatment of Bareri. This government that export radical Islam from Indonesia to Morroco. Many a Islamic husband will be asked if he supports such acts on Muslim women. Few will be able to give a fair answer that a wife can appreciate, that is line with the
doctrinal line of what Iran advocates.
Iran paints itself with the Solami priate. Iran feels empowered enough to take American women as hostage....a kind of legal hostage if you will....place them to the death sentence and then have a one day trial? And Iran leadership wants the United States and world to see it as a 'just country' that can be trusted. Trusted with nuclear materials? This is almost laughable, if a woman's life was not at stake.
So yes,jbibizia hold the United States to your higher standard. But don't place Iran as a country that can be trusted when they act in such a manner. Though one of the oldest countries in the world, Iran is not ready for such status yet.
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ttom500: That leader of the free world, a long time ago decided that Islamic piracy on the high seas was a offense for military actions. Thomas Jefferson the writer of our Constitution, when President was faced with Islamic piracy made that policy.
He held off in making it a military issue until some American women were taken captive by these pirates. Then he ordered the
US Marines to battle.....and today we have them remembered in words of their hymm..."from the shores of Tripoli".
The reason I bring this up. Is that few know but there are women and children, both as officers families and as paying passenger, are on some merchant vessels that the Solami pirates can attack. The day the Solami pirates take hostage a merchant vessel with Western women and children on board, is the day when many here want will strong military operations in the country.
You ask what connection between this Iranian situation and Solami piracy is there? Just that a state sponsored act of terrorism is no better than the terrorist act of a group. The woman has already faced for several months a death sentence if convicted of the spying charges. She now face 8 years in a Iranian prison.
If the arrest and conviction ARE MERELY Iranian gov't interplays for positioning on the Obama talks. Then what she has faced is approximate to what Captain Bowlen faced as captive of the Solami pirates. The Iranian acts are nothing more than state sponsored terrorism for political purpose, where as the Solami pirate is terrorism for monetary purpose.
Instead of being done by AK-47 and a group of armed men, it
was done by an arresting armed Iranian police officers and a Iranian Islamic court. What is the difference? It is still hostage taking. It is still fear causing to the hostage taken.
I respect the Solamipirate more than I do the Iranian government. At least the Somali pirates risk their own lives to go sea in small open boats to take their hostages. The Iranian gov't waits for 6 years to press charges and take hostage a woman for bad press credentials.
What does that mean 'bad press credentials'? A typo on her press pass? But with the evidence that Iran shows, one can think exactly that. Also she was well known as a journalist. I have seen now exerts of major TV pieces she had done around the world. Clearly she did news reporting.
Just like Bensair Bhutto was made into a mrytar for Islamic women around the world. The Irainian government is making this American Muslim woman a mrytar. Her unjust conviction is just as offensive as the treatment of Mrs. Bhutto in Pakistan. With a house arrest after she was attacked the first time.
Wise Muslim women will note the Iranian treatment of Bareri. This government that export radical Islam from Indonesia to Morroco. Many a Islamic husband will be asked if he supports such acts on Muslim women. Few will be able to give a fair answer that a wife can appreciate, that is line with the
doctrinal line of what Iran advocates.
Iran paints itself with the Solami priate. Iran feels empowered enough to take American women as hostage....a kind of legal hostage if you will....place them to the death sentence and then have a one day trial? And Iran leadership wants the United States and world to see it as a 'just country' that can be trusted. Trusted with nuclear materials? This is almost laughable, if a woman's life was not at stake.
So yes,jbibizia hold the United States to your higher standard. But don't place Iran as a country that can be trusted when they act in such a manner. Though one of the oldest countries in the world, Iran is not ready for such status yet.
He held off in making it a military issue until some American women were taken captive by these pirates. Then he ordered the
US Marines to battle.....and today we have them remembered in words of their hymm..."from the shores of Tripoli".
The reason I bring this up. Is that few know but there are women and children, both as officers families and as paying passenger, are on some merchant vessels that the Solami pirates can attack. The day the Solami pirates take hostage a merchant vessel with Western women and children on board, is the day when many here want will strong military operations in the country.
You ask what connection between this Iranian situation and Solami piracy is there? Just that a state sponsored act of terrorism is no better than the terrorist act of a group. The woman has already faced for several months a death sentence if convicted of the spying charges. She now face 8 years in a Iranian prison.
If the arrest and conviction ARE MERELY Iranian gov't interplays for positioning on the Obama talks. Then what she has faced is approximate to what Captain Bowlen faced as captive of the Solami pirates. The Iranian acts are nothing more than state sponsored terrorism for political purpose, where as the Solami pirate is terrorism for monetary purpose.
Instead of being done by AK-47 and a group of armed men, it
was done by an arresting armed Iranian police officers and a Iranian Islamic court. What is the difference? It is still hostage taking. It is still fear causing to the hostage taken.
I respect the Solamipirate more than I do the Iranian government. At least the Somali pirates risk their own lives to go sea in small open boats to take their hostages. The Iranian gov't waits for 6 years to press charges and take hostage a woman for bad press credentials.
What does that mean 'bad press credentials'? A typo on her press pass? But with the evidence that Iran shows, one can think exactly that. Also she was well known as a journalist. I have seen now exerts of major TV pieces she had done around the world. Clearly she did news reporting.
Just like Bensair Bhutto was made into a mrytar for Islamic women around the world. The Irainian government is making this American Muslim woman a mrytar. Her unjust conviction is just as offensive as the treatment of Mrs. Bhutto in Pakistan. With a house arrest after she was attacked the first time.
Wise Muslim women will note the Iranian treatment of Bareri. This government that export radical Islam from Indonesia to Morroco. Many a Islamic husband will be asked if he supports such acts on Muslim women. Few will be able to give a fair answer that a wife can appreciate, that is line with the
doctrinal line of what Iran advocates.
Iran paints itself with the Solami priate. Iran feels empowered enough to take American women as hostage....a kind of legal hostage if you will....place them to the death sentence and then have a one day trial? And Iran leadership wants the United States and world to see it as a 'just country' that can be trusted. Trusted with nuclear materials? This is almost laughable, if a woman's life was not at stake.
So yes,jbibizia hold the United States to your higher standard. But don't place Iran as a country that can be trusted when they act in such a manner. Though one of the oldest countries in the world, Iran is not ready for such status yet.
ok...so you embrace greek food????????? where are you going with this
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Hi R
Just gotta love the way some of this is presented, to villify Democrats at any cost, and hold Republicans up like they're saints.
What a bunch of BS.