druidess6308: A thought occurred to me just a couple of minutes ago as I told a friend of mine that I love her...why is it okay for women to tell their female friends that we love each other, but men feel weird telling their male friends that they love them? They can say it to their female friends, but feel that they'll be perceived as "gay" if they say it to their male friends.
Is it only in the US, or is it a world-wide thing? I know European men kiss each other on the cheeks, just as they do the women...but do you tell your male friends that you love them?
I think as women we are naturally cuddly, kissie. We constantly see women who will touch each other give each other a kiss. You rarely see men do that. I think men have the 'macho' image.
And in all honesty if my partner walked up and kissed his best mate I would find that full of gayness.......I cant really answer the question as to what the difference is though.
druidess6308: A thought occurred to me just a couple of minutes ago as I told a friend of mine that I love her...why is it okay for women to tell their female friends that we love each other, but men feel weird telling their male friends that they love them? They can say it to their female friends, but feel that they'll be perceived as "gay" if they say it to their male friends.
Is it only in the US, or is it a world-wide thing? I know European men kiss each other on the cheeks, just as they do the women...but do you tell your male friends that you love them?
Ohhh this is easy ...
With male friend I say... "Hey dude" then we give the handshake when we meet... "Later dude" then we give the handshake when we leave ...
With male family I say... "Hi" then we give a one armed side hug when we meet... "Take care" then we give a one armed side hug when we leave ...
With male friend I say... "Hey dude" then we give the handshake when we meet... "Later dude" then we give the handshake when we leave ...
With male family I say... "Hi" then we give a one armed side hug when we meet... "Take care" then we give a one armed side hug when we leave ...
So for you, it's friend vs. family that determines it. Hmmm. So there are differences culturally in the US, and it makes me wonder how much of that is geographical and how much again harks back to ancestry.
jeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)10,968 posts
One of my junior high school teachers has sent me three email over the years telling how special I was and he loves me... OMG. That just ain't right I think...
sxc666: I think as women we are naturally cuddly, kissie. We constantly see women who will touch each other give each other a kiss. You rarely see men do that. I think men have the 'macho' image.And in all honesty if my partner walked up and kissed his best mate I would find that full of gayness.......I cant really answer the question as to what the difference is though.
You just made a good point for differences in parts of the UK, or is Australia not considered part of the UK any more, Tina? And it's a country composed of mostly British ancestry, and yet has broken away from that in the ability for more physical closeness and signs of affection.
See...this is fascinating to me. And yes, I think women are more affectionate overall...and yet, men have just as much ability to be tender as women. Again, it's my belief that culture plays a big part in that. As Riz pointed out with the differences between his home country of England and his current country he's visiting of Italy.
Are the men in Italy less macho than those in England or Australia? And in Australia, how much of that "macho" thing stems from survival in places like the Outback, or just even the types of men who were originally sent to inhabit the country?
jeepers: One of my junior high school teachers has sent me three email over the years telling how special I was and he loves me... OMG. That just ain't right I think...
Not if you mean from Texas, my friend. And I'll refrain from a saying I heard in the Army that got military personnel banned from at least one bar in El Paso.
jeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)10,968 posts
druidess6308: Not if you mean from Texas, my friend. And I'll refrain from a saying I heard in the Army that got military personnel banned from at least one bar in El Paso.
That's the same guy, he move to my home town which is just down I-10 from El Paso !! It's your fault !!
druidess6308: You just made a good point for differences in parts of the UK, or is Australia not considered part of the UK any more, Tina? And it's a country composed of mostly British ancestry, and yet has broken away from that in the ability for more physical closeness and signs of affection.
See...this is fascinating to me. And yes, I think women are more affectionate overall...and yet, men have just as much ability to be tender as women. Again, it's my belief that culture plays a big part in that. As Riz pointed out with the differences between his home country of England and his current country he's visiting of Italy.
Are the men in Italy less macho than those in England or Australia? And in Australia, how much of that "macho" thing stems from survival in places like the Outback, or just even the types of men who were originally sent to inhabit the country?
Cant really answer Dru. Different cultures just seem to be accepted, like watching men kiss cheek to cheek on a movie is acceptable, but if you seen two Aussie blokes kissing cheek to cheek you would be checking for their skirts......
It is a fascinating subject though and a topic I have though about in the past. Does it have to do with individual cultures upbringing. In Australia you don't raise you boys to kiss other boys and that is just the way it is.
sxc666: Cant really answer Dru. Different cultures just seem to be accepted, like watching men kiss cheek to cheek on a movie is acceptable, but if you seen two Aussie blokes kissing cheek to cheek you would be checking for their skirts......
It is a fascinating subject though and a topic I have though about in the past. Does it have to do with individual cultures upbringing. In Australia you don't raise you boys to kiss other boys and that is just the way it is.
Same here in most of the US, and yet there are too many cultural differences in this country because of being a melting pot. Which is why I wanted to post this where I could discover the differences in an international forum. And it's been very educational. I've loved it so far. I hope it continues overnight (for me) as different parts of the world come online.
Nice to know I'm not alone in wondering about this, and my fascination with how our culture shapes us in different areas. We can celebrate our common ground, and yet also celebrate our differences, and still all get along.
druidess6308: A thought occurred to me just a couple of minutes ago as I told a friend of mine that I love her...why is it okay for women to tell their female friends that we love each other, but men feel weird telling their male friends that they love them? They can say it to their female friends, but feel that they'll be perceived as "gay" if they say it to their male friends.
Is it only in the US, or is it a world-wide thing? I know European men kiss each other on the cheeks, just as they do the women...but do you tell your male friends that you love them?
I have some very close male friends, we frequently say those exact words to each other..
Love is such a wonderful thing when one finds out what it REALLY is..
I can not comment to much on the men telling men they love them. But in my family they do. Maybe it is respect?
But I always tell my family and "close" friends when talking to them either over the phone or leaving....that I love them. It is just me and that is how I am.
An example: My best friends boy friend. He has never told her that he loves her. They have been seeing each other now for over a year. One night I said when we were all parting love you guys! He stopped dead in his tracks and said. I never tell anyone that! Only my mother, kids and ex wife have I said those words.
Maybe with some people the love word is over used. And yes I've seen couples that said is over and over again. Like yes we all know that you love each other. lol
But when you've almost left this world and have another chance at life. For me I need to tell those close and dear to my heart that I care and love them.
Ummmm...errmmmm...welll, I don't have a problem telling someone that I love them, but just don't say it that often. It doesn't make much difference whether it's a guy or a gal, but I only say it if I really mean it.
No problems giving friends or family a hug or a kiss, and it's irrelevent if they're male or female. I didn't grow up in a warm huggy family, so with them it may be a bit more different than it is with friends.
I give my brother's kids hugs and kisses, and tell them I love them whenever I see them, and I don't think some kids get that often enough.
Shirley49WV: I can not comment to much on the men telling men they love them. But in my family they do. Maybe it is respect?
But I always tell my family and "close" friends when talking to them either over the phone or leaving....that I love them. It is just me and that is how I am.
An example: My best friends boy friend. He has never told her that he loves her. They have been seeing each other now for over a year. One night I said when we were all parting love you guys! He stopped dead in his tracks and said. I never tell anyone that! Only my mother, kids and ex wife have I said those words.
Maybe with some people the love word is over used. And yes I've seen couples that said is over and over again. Like yes we all know that you love each other. lol
But when you've almost left this world and have another chance at life. For me I need to tell those close and dear to my heart that I care and love them.
I agree, Shirley. Losing someone that I loved, and seeing death strike so close, made me realize just how short and precious life really is, and how important it can be to say "I love you" to those we do love. You never know if you'll have a chance to say it tomorrow instead.
druidess6308: So for you, it's friend vs. family that determines it. Hmmm. So there are differences culturally in the US, and it makes me wonder how much of that is geographical and how much again harks back to ancestry.
It is mostly geographical... I grew up in New York in the 70's... But in Amish country in Ohio they express their love differently than in New York...
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Really, I say I love you to my friends...I've heard a few guys say "love you, man" but they act so embarrassed.
Yeah...and do that punch in the arm thing, too. It's pretty rare around here, even when they're drunk.