Should women have children if they can not support them properly? (213)
bodleing: Maybe we should be more concerned about this fact.
According to UNICEF, 25,000 children die each day due to poverty. And they “die quietly in some of the poorest villages on earth, far removed from the scrutiny and the conscience of the world. Being meek and weak in life makes these dying multitudes even more invisible in death.
According to UNICEF, 25,000 children die each day due to poverty. And they “die quietly in some of the poorest villages on earth, far removed from the scrutiny and the conscience of the world. Being meek and weak in life makes these dying multitudes even more invisible in death.
Exactly, a much more sobering fact to be concerned about.
As for "trapping" men by having babies, I really do not believe there are are many women who would do this. I do know of women in the UK who have babies, often by different fathers, to secure better housing and benefits. This does not seem to happen in Spain where I live, perhaps because there are fewer unwed mothers, and much fewer very young single mothers.
However, these women are generally not well educated women and do not envisage any exciting career, or extensive travelling, which would be virtually impossible with children.
Education is the key, always. Well educated girls can quite easily fall pregnant accidentally, it's true, but I do not believe they would deliberately set out to get pregnant, they understand the dire, future consequences of such an action.
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last time I checked, it takes 2 to make kids(except in the case of octo mom etal)Both male and female parents should pay equally and no one else should be forced to pay for their care through any government program.
You can't afford it, don't have them, otherwise you are on your own.
You can't afford it, don't have them, otherwise you are on your own.
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toranoga: last time I checked, it takes 2 to make kids(except in the case of octo mom etal)Both male and female parents should pay equally and no one else should be forced to pay for their care through any government program.
You can't afford it, don't have them, otherwise you are on your own.
You can't afford it, don't have them, otherwise you are on your own.
a lot of women do end up on their own
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Why do they end up on their own? Even so, they made the choice and they should figure their own way out of a situation. I have no qualms about assisting those who are willing to work their way out of a bad situation, but I do have a problem with freeloaders both male and female.
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toranoga: Why do they end up on their own? Even so, they made the choice and they should figure their own way out of a situation. I have no qualms about assisting those who are willing to work their way out of a bad situation, but I do have a problem with freeloaders both male and female.
cos their so called partner decides the grass is greener on the other side and the choice to have kids was made by both
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scorpiosiren: cos their so called partner decides the grass is greener on the other side and the choice to have kids was made by both
And that is the case 100% of the time and therefore women assume absolutely no responsibility for that decision? Makes a whole hell of a lot of sense to me?
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I only read until page 3 to be honest. Frankly I am a single mother who is solely responsible for my child. He is happy healthy and has anything he could possibly need. I believe I have and will continue to make mistakes as a parent but in my opinion and those around me I have and am doing a good job with him. Do I struggle-yes I do but he has never felt the weight of that struggle. I am a full time college student to better OUR lives and daycare is a part of his. He isn't 3 and he knows how to count 1-10 he knows his ABCs he even knows spanish. His father ditched as soon as I was pregnant (on birth control) and has never met him. I thought about adoption but in the end could not do it. He is my life and I am his. I would not trade a single minute of my struggle or my life if it meant not being with him.
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friends4now: I only read until page 3 to be honest. Frankly I am a single mother who is solely responsible for my child. He is happy healthy and has anything he could possibly need. I believe I have and will continue to make mistakes as a parent but in my opinion and those around me I have and am doing a good job with him. Do I struggle-yes I do but he has never felt the weight of that struggle. I am a full time college student to better OUR lives and daycare is a part of his. He isn't 3 and he knows how to count 1-10 he knows his ABCs he even knows spanish. His father ditched as soon as I was pregnant (on birth control) and has never met him. I thought about adoption but in the end could not do it. He is my life and I am his. I would not trade a single minute of my struggle or my life if it meant not being with him.
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friends4now: I only read until page 3 to be honest. Frankly I am a single mother who is solely responsible for my child. He is happy healthy and has anything he could possibly need. I believe I have and will continue to make mistakes as a parent but in my opinion and those around me I have and am doing a good job with him. Do I struggle-yes I do but he has never felt the weight of that struggle. I am a full time college student to better OUR lives and daycare is a part of his. He isn't 3 and he knows how to count 1-10 he knows his ABCs he even knows spanish. His father ditched as soon as I was pregnant (on birth control) and has never met him. I thought about adoption but in the end could not do it. He is my life and I am his. I would not trade a single minute of my struggle or my life if it meant not being with him.
Even though you don't fit the profile of the single mother that's being refered to by the OP.
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cameraman: Even though you don't fit the profile of the single mother that's being refered to by the OP. I'm happy you decided to keep your son than put him up for adoption.
Correction. The OP did mention that it takes two parents to support a child.
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I wanna get knocked up by a guy named Breck! 
I have the kids names picked out. Cuthbert and Ignatz. 
I have the kids names picked out. Cuthbert and Ignatz. ------ This thread is Archived ------
Witchaywoman: I wanna get knocked up by a guy named Breck! I have the kids names picked out. Cuthbert and Ignatz.
I want to sire a son called Cuthbert........... may I change my name to 'Breck' by deed poll?
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RobertC2: I want to sire a son called Cuthbert........... may I change my name to 'Breck' by deed poll?
I didn't really mean it - and I don't want to 'knock you up', but pretending would be fun!
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purtlb1: it becomes the responsibility of any man who falls for u he wants your company let him pay for the baggage 2
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ContraryCol: Maybe not as naive as some women who get pregnant just so that they get a council house and escape from there parents or to obtain independance with the notion that the father will "stick by us".
Hi Col, have to say when i visit UK it shocks me a little just how many one parent families there are.Not something you see in alot of other countries, different cultures and morals perhaps?
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friends4now: I only read until page 3 to be honest. Frankly I am a single mother who is solely responsible for my child. He is happy healthy and has anything he could possibly need. I believe I have and will continue to make mistakes as a parent but in my opinion and those around me I have and am doing a good job with him. Do I struggle-yes I do but he has never felt the weight of that struggle. I am a full time college student to better OUR lives and daycare is a part of his. He isn't 3 and he knows how to count 1-10 he knows his ABCs he even knows spanish. His father ditched as soon as I was pregnant (on birth control) and has never met him. I thought about adoption but in the end could not do it. He is my life and I am his. I would not trade a single minute of my struggle or my life if it meant not being with him.
Lovely post and I tip my hat to you.
My question is more about those who have CHOSEN to have a child/children without having any stability to provide for it.
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mnowsa: no, sir..i am not. I am being dead serious here because we are talking about some very serious issues that are shaping our families and societies in a very negative fashion.
No, what you are saying is that you have no respect for women, that in your view, they should exist for your pleasure in the kitchen and bedroom, because they are delicate creatures they should not have to work or provide anything to a relationship other than being a home maker.
I am sorry, we live in the 21st century, women are just as capable of providing as men, to assume that all they want in life is to have kids tied to their apron strings is, to my mind wrong, all my ex's were intelligent women who wanted and made a good career paths.
What is needed is more equality not less.
And I fail to understand what is shameful for a man to want to bring up his own children, maybe for you it is okay, but for the majority of responsible absent fathers we would jump at the chance rather than just being a source of financial support.
Finally, not all men walk away from a relationship or are abusive or drug addicts or have affairs, sometimes it is the women who decides the grass is greener, sometimes the women is the one who refuses to try and overcome family problems, sometime she is the one who runs away rather than face the consequences and try to make amends, she then not only destroys the relationship but also destroyed the fathers role as a loving and attentive Daddy to his children. BUT SHE STILL ENDS UP WITH THE FATHERS CHILDREN.
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Its not just the womens choice to get pregnant.. it takes two to tango.. The same question could be asked of guys.. should guys have children if they cant support them.. Ask the question why are these ladies raising a child on their own.. is it because the guy wont face up to his responsibilties and help and support his own flesh and blood...???? What ya think girls..it defo is a mans world!!!
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morgan5: Hi Col, have to say when i visit UK it shocks me a little just how many one parent families there are.
Not something you see in alot of other countries, different cultures and morals perhaps?
Not something you see in alot of other countries, different cultures and morals perhaps?
Hello morgan
I think that what does not help regarding young people in our country is the fact that we have a very accute housing shortage and house prices are too high for most young people.
Many feel that the only way to gain freedom and independance is by becoming pregnant and obtain a council house.
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Women becoming pregnant either for there own need to have a baby at any cost or to trap a man into loyalty without any consideration to its possible future,or there own future.
u can only trap a man if he wants to be trapped for god's sake