Need you guys-Moral delemma (92)
RDM59 THERE IS A LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM YOU HERE....
Did I hit a cord? Did this happen to you? Did you feel you were stolen from in some way? Is that what is going on here?
Not trying to argue with you, just trying to understand. I sent you an email....
Best, K
Did I hit a cord? Did this happen to you? Did you feel you were stolen from in some way? Is that what is going on here?
Not trying to argue with you, just trying to understand. I sent you an email....
Best, K
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OneKitty: They are supposed to pay for the dog and it's expenses. All was to transpire on 9/2. I have not heard from them since Tuesday. Today is Friday 9/4.
Brass tacks? Is that what you are after and not the fact that they can't afford this dog? I am wondering if they can afford the BABY?????? A human baby.
Brass tacks? Is that what you are after and not the fact that they can't afford this dog? I am wondering if they can afford the BABY?????? A human baby.
You say that over the past few days you have learnt some negative facts about these people, but you have not seen them. Enough to justify keeping the dog for it's own well being, if so, then so be it. But you have just learnt of these facts but your original post was Wed 2nd and you didn't have these facts then but at that stage you were strongly considering keeping the dog.
If you judge these people to be not worthy or capable owners then why not take the dog back to the pound or find other owners ?
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Um.
Um. I live in a very rural area. Little dogs might get killed so not so easy to find a "good" home. Have heard of -- oh, what do they call it, fighting dogs--use little dogs as bait? Pound is a kill shelter. I does not support kill shelters. Also $$$Adoption money is not refundable.
Do you think it is bad for me to keep little Cooper under the adoption I did thru the shelter. He is under my vet records too.
And in re-reading your post, I was not "strongly" considering keeping the dog. I had considered it tho. I will not tell stories on that one.
RDM59, it just does not feel good to let him go to them. Can you not see what I am saying? Are you just making good fodder for the threads or do you really belive this?
Thanks, K
I am very tired. This has been very hard for me.
RDM59: You say that over the past few days you have learnt some negative facts about these people, but you have not seen them. Enough to justify keeping the dog for it's own well being, if so, then so be it. But you have just learnt of these facts but your original post was Wed 2nd and you didn't have these facts then but at that stage you were strongly considering keeping the dog.
If you judge these people to be not worthy or capable owners then why not take the dog back to the pound or find other owners ?
If you judge these people to be not worthy or capable owners then why not take the dog back to the pound or find other owners ?
Um. I live in a very rural area. Little dogs might get killed so not so easy to find a "good" home. Have heard of -- oh, what do they call it, fighting dogs--use little dogs as bait? Pound is a kill shelter. I does not support kill shelters. Also $$$Adoption money is not refundable.
Do you think it is bad for me to keep little Cooper under the adoption I did thru the shelter. He is under my vet records too.
And in re-reading your post, I was not "strongly" considering keeping the dog. I had considered it tho. I will not tell stories on that one.
RDM59, it just does not feel good to let him go to them. Can you not see what I am saying? Are you just making good fodder for the threads or do you really belive this?
Thanks, K
I am very tired. This has been very hard for me.
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OneKitty: RDM59 THERE IS A LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM YOU HERE....
Did I hit a cord? Did this happen to you? Did you feel you were stolen from in some way? Is that what is going on here?
Not trying to argue with you, just trying to understand. I sent you an email....
Best, K
Did I hit a cord? Did this happen to you? Did you feel you were stolen from in some way? Is that what is going on here?
Not trying to argue with you, just trying to understand. I sent you an email....
Best, K
Not at all, and no need to try your deflection techniques please ...
I just can't helping reading between the lines, many of which are actually missing and many you seem yourself to be unhappy with having written.Why start this post in the first place ? Because it is a moral dilema and that is why I am persisting with this thread, I find it interesting.
It's not opposition, for the sake of it. I just like to see the truth in things.
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OneKitty: Um.
Um. I live in a very rural area. Little dogs might get killed so not so easy to find a "good" home. Have heard of -- oh, what do they call it, fighting dogs--use little dogs as bait? Pound is a kill shelter. I does not support kill shelters. Also $$$Adoption money is not refundable.
Do you think it is bad for me to keep little Cooper under the adoption I did thru the shelter. He is under my vet records too.
And in re-reading your post, I was not "strongly" considering keeping the dog. I had considered it tho. I will not tell stories on that one.
RDM59, it just does not feel good to let him go to them. Can you not see what I am saying? Are you just making good fodder for the threads or do you really belive this?
Thanks, K
I am very tired. This has been very hard for me.
Um. I live in a very rural area. Little dogs might get killed so not so easy to find a "good" home. Have heard of -- oh, what do they call it, fighting dogs--use little dogs as bait? Pound is a kill shelter. I does not support kill shelters. Also $$$Adoption money is not refundable.
Do you think it is bad for me to keep little Cooper under the adoption I did thru the shelter. He is under my vet records too.
And in re-reading your post, I was not "strongly" considering keeping the dog. I had considered it tho. I will not tell stories on that one.
RDM59, it just does not feel good to let him go to them. Can you not see what I am saying? Are you just making good fodder for the threads or do you really belive this?
Thanks, K
I am very tired. This has been very hard for me.
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RDM59: Not at all, and no need to try your deflection techniques please ... I just can't helping reading between the lines, many of which are actually missing and many you seem yourself to be unhappy with having written.
Why start this post in the first place ? Because it is a moral dilema and that is why I am persisting with this thread, I find it interesting.
It's not opposition, for the sake of it. I just like to see the truth in things.
Why start this post in the first place ? Because it is a moral dilema and that is why I am persisting with this thread, I find it interesting.
It's not opposition, for the sake of it. I just like to see the truth in things.
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you must have been strongly concidering keeping it, hence your post " Moral Dilema ".I am sure cooper would be very well loved and looked after by yourself, that is not the issue here. You made an agreement and you have gone back on it. That was the issue. You were all ready to hand the dog over on Tuesday !!! You say they never showed up, so just keep the dog then, why post about it ? If they don't want it and you do then no problem right, there is no dilema
I will read your email now.
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OneKitty: O
Oh gosh! You do have a point there, but when I did forst post this thread, I did not have the full information. I had only an inkeling of the information.
NOW several days have passed and I have more facts. Based on the facts that I have NOW I want to keep the dog.
THEN, it was a moral delemma. I was waffeling at the time. I wanted to follow my word, but I was uncomfortable with it because things/information were/was just blosseming
NOW I am very uncomfortable with my origional word. They have not kept their word either. So if we have to go off a verbal agreement, all is lost.
In fact I am steadfast against it. The origional information has changed.
I hope that makes sense. What would you do?
Oh gosh! You do have a point there, but when I did forst post this thread, I did not have the full information. I had only an inkeling of the information.
NOW several days have passed and I have more facts. Based on the facts that I have NOW I want to keep the dog.
THEN, it was a moral delemma. I was waffeling at the time. I wanted to follow my word, but I was uncomfortable with it because things/information were/was just blosseming
NOW I am very uncomfortable with my origional word. They have not kept their word either. So if we have to go off a verbal agreement, all is lost.
In fact I am steadfast against it. The origional information has changed.
I hope that makes sense. What would you do?
I would do what is best for the dog. They are like people as they have their own personalities. It would seem that you and this cute dog have bonded.
Apparently you can provide a healthier environment for your new friend. No need for guilt unless you turn the dog over. You will always regret that decision.
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WhovianGeneva: Seems to me that the dog has made its choice...
If it acts like it had been abused, try to see a vet. Can be a good thing.
but at least keep it. T
If it acts like it had been abused, try to see a vet. Can be a good thing.
but at least keep it. T
I agree
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At first I thought you were rescuing their family pet that they had taken to the shelter but if I read the posts right you said they looked at the dog and passed on it until you went back to the shelter with them. Animals are the best judges of human character so maybe the dog ought to have a voice in this matter but then again I have to wonder if these people are so anxious to have this dog why were they not waiting at your house or in your vehicle when you got to bring the little fellow home? IMO the dog is already in the best place it could possibly be I say keep it,love it, cherish it !!!! As one who has rescued his share of abused animals one can tell through your words the kind of home you have waiting for Cooper. He will never have to want for love and affection again if I do not miss my guess.
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RDM59: Ok, so he is going to jail then.From your opening post ......
Well don't know what to do.
Do I follow the promise to the people....
or to the dog?.....This was your big dilema, which promise to keep, and what promise did you make with the dog ? I still can't see beyond the fact that you have gone back on your word to these people, regardless of their character, you only mention the mans, there are others, his wife and child.
You said they seemed to love the dog, and they are not giving up easy on their dog by the sounds of it or it wouldn't be a dilema !
Well don't know what to do.
Do I follow the promise to the people....
or to the dog?.....This was your big dilema, which promise to keep, and what promise did you make with the dog ? I still can't see beyond the fact that you have gone back on your word to these people, regardless of their character, you only mention the mans, there are others, his wife and child.
You said they seemed to love the dog, and they are not giving up easy on their dog by the sounds of it or it wouldn't be a dilema !
If they want a dog then why have a middle man/woman? If they can adopt a dog then they should do it on their own. If there is a contract then the specifics should be followed. Contracts have necessary parts to make them viable.
There are so many dogs and cats avalible in shelters and rescue sites. Surely its brother, sister or a simular friend is available. I know you're going to say 'why not Onekitty take one of them'. This dog has been here and there, another there is not in the best interest of a person.
Dennis
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They are supposed to pay for the dog and it's expenses. All was to transpire on 9/2. I have not heard from them since Tuesday. Today is Friday 9/4.
Brass tacks? Is that what you are after and not the fact that they can't afford this dog? I am wondering if they can afford the BABY?????? A human baby.