Means testing job seekers allowance (121)
there are jobs out there, i know of two people recently who have gained employment in sectors they are qualified in, you just have to keep looking i guess
JohnnyT: Are there really no jobs out there though?
I advertised a job last Thursday for a telesales rep and the response so far has been useless. Every applicant so far has been either kids fresh from their leaving or people with absolutely no experience.
I advertised a job last Thursday for a telesales rep and the response so far has been useless. Every applicant so far has been either kids fresh from their leaving or people with absolutely no experience.
i have 5yrs experience within the sales and admin role and still i cant get job anywhere, plus ive been looking since feb
its just soooo tough at the moment,
JohnnyT: Are there really no jobs out there though?
I advertised a job last Thursday for a telesales rep and the response so far has been useless. Every applicant so far has been either kids fresh from their leaving or people with absolutely no experience.
I advertised a job last Thursday for a telesales rep and the response so far has been useless. Every applicant so far has been either kids fresh from their leaving or people with absolutely no experience.
Now I am going to be slated for sayin this..but I will say it anyway.
Yes there are jobs out there..not many but some.
Live register figures are growing every day.. yet, despite what people seem to think..not all of the people signing on are actually unemployed.
A lot (NOT all) of construction companies have "officially" laid people off..given P45s and told them to sign on. They then remploy those people cash in hand at lower wages..while the person continues to sign on. As a result of lower wage bills (because of fraud) the employer then undercuts competitors who are trying to stay legit.
The resources that are supposed to be provided to employ inspectors/fraud officers has been stopped because of pay cuts. So there are fewer inspectors and the fraud escalates. This is exactly what was happening in the 80s. In the 90s..some of the resources were concentrated into fraud control and a lot of prosecutions etc followed..and fraud lessened, although it didn't go away, for a long time.
Naturally, in a recession, people will try anything..and not always for the general good or within the law.
wexlady41: Now I am going to be slated for sayin this..but I will say it anyway.
Yes there are jobs out there..not many but some.
Live register figures are growing every day.. yet, despite what people seem to think..not all of the people signing on are actually unemployed.
A lot (NOT all) of construction companies have "officially" laid people off..given P45s and told them to sign on. They then remploy those people cash in hand at lower wages..while the person continues to sign on. As a result of lower wage bills (because of fraud) the employer then undercuts competitors who are trying to stay legit.
The resources that are supposed to be provided to employ inspectors/fraud officers has been stopped because of pay cuts. So there are fewer inspectors and the fraud escalates. This is exactly what was happening in the 80s. In the 90s..some of the resources were concentrated into fraud control and a lot of prosecutions etc followed..and fraud lessened, although it didn't go away, for a long time.
Naturally, in a recession, people will try anything..and not always for the general good or within the law.
Yes there are jobs out there..not many but some.
Live register figures are growing every day.. yet, despite what people seem to think..not all of the people signing on are actually unemployed.
A lot (NOT all) of construction companies have "officially" laid people off..given P45s and told them to sign on. They then remploy those people cash in hand at lower wages..while the person continues to sign on. As a result of lower wage bills (because of fraud) the employer then undercuts competitors who are trying to stay legit.
The resources that are supposed to be provided to employ inspectors/fraud officers has been stopped because of pay cuts. So there are fewer inspectors and the fraud escalates. This is exactly what was happening in the 80s. In the 90s..some of the resources were concentrated into fraud control and a lot of prosecutions etc followed..and fraud lessened, although it didn't go away, for a long time.
Naturally, in a recession, people will try anything..and not always for the general good or within the law.
you're right on the money there!
wexlady41: Now I am going to be slated for sayin this..but I will say it anyway.
Yes there are jobs out there..not many but some.
Live register figures are growing every day.. yet, despite what people seem to think..not all of the people signing on are actually unemployed.
A lot (NOT all) of construction companies have "officially" laid people off..given P45s and told them to sign on. They then remploy those people cash in hand at lower wages..while the person continues to sign on. As a result of lower wage bills (because of fraud) the employer then undercuts competitors who are trying to stay legit.
The resources that are supposed to be provided to employ inspectors/fraud officers has been stopped because of pay cuts. So there are fewer inspectors and the fraud escalates. This is exactly what was happening in the 80s. In the 90s..some of the resources were concentrated into fraud control and a lot of prosecutions etc followed..and fraud lessened, although it didn't go away, for a long time.
Naturally, in a recession, people will try anything..and not always for the general good or within the law.
Yes there are jobs out there..not many but some.
Live register figures are growing every day.. yet, despite what people seem to think..not all of the people signing on are actually unemployed.
A lot (NOT all) of construction companies have "officially" laid people off..given P45s and told them to sign on. They then remploy those people cash in hand at lower wages..while the person continues to sign on. As a result of lower wage bills (because of fraud) the employer then undercuts competitors who are trying to stay legit.
The resources that are supposed to be provided to employ inspectors/fraud officers has been stopped because of pay cuts. So there are fewer inspectors and the fraud escalates. This is exactly what was happening in the 80s. In the 90s..some of the resources were concentrated into fraud control and a lot of prosecutions etc followed..and fraud lessened, although it didn't go away, for a long time.
Naturally, in a recession, people will try anything..and not always for the general good or within the law.
why would anybody slate you for that.
It's something everyone knows, and nobody talks about.
Didn't I see them on signing day, and the next I spotted them working on the sites. It's sort of common knowledge.
wexlady41: Now I am going to be slated for sayin this..but I will say it anyway.
Yes there are jobs out there..not many but some.
Live register figures are growing every day.. yet, despite what people seem to think..not all of the people signing on are actually unemployed.
A lot (NOT all) of construction companies have "officially" laid people off..given P45s and told them to sign on. They then remploy those people cash in hand at lower wages..while the person continues to sign on. As a result of lower wage bills (because of fraud) the employer then undercuts competitors who are trying to stay legit.
The resources that are supposed to be provided to employ inspectors/fraud officers has been stopped because of pay cuts. So there are fewer inspectors and the fraud escalates. This is exactly what was happening in the 80s. In the 90s..some of the resources were concentrated into fraud control and a lot of prosecutions etc followed..and fraud lessened, although it didn't go away, for a long time.
Naturally, in a recession, people will try anything..and not always for the general good or within the law.
Yes there are jobs out there..not many but some.
Live register figures are growing every day.. yet, despite what people seem to think..not all of the people signing on are actually unemployed.
A lot (NOT all) of construction companies have "officially" laid people off..given P45s and told them to sign on. They then remploy those people cash in hand at lower wages..while the person continues to sign on. As a result of lower wage bills (because of fraud) the employer then undercuts competitors who are trying to stay legit.
The resources that are supposed to be provided to employ inspectors/fraud officers has been stopped because of pay cuts. So there are fewer inspectors and the fraud escalates. This is exactly what was happening in the 80s. In the 90s..some of the resources were concentrated into fraud control and a lot of prosecutions etc followed..and fraud lessened, although it didn't go away, for a long time.
Naturally, in a recession, people will try anything..and not always for the general good or within the law.
True.
Ive been self employed for over 8 years and have been living probably below the minimum wage for years. I recently signed on because my average wage per week had dropped too low to manage.
I will not get full dole (ive had my means test an all done) but would rather stay self employed and keep working than get the full amount and and scamming taking cash in hand. Maybe Im too honest but my conscience is clear
Clone: True.
Ive been self employed for over 8 years and have been living probably below the minimum wage for years. I recently signed on because my average wage per week had dropped too low to manage.
I will not get full dole (ive had my means test an all done) but would rather stay self employed and keep working than get the full amount and and scamming taking cash in hand. Maybe Im too honest but my conscience is clear
Ive been self employed for over 8 years and have been living probably below the minimum wage for years. I recently signed on because my average wage per week had dropped too low to manage.
I will not get full dole (ive had my means test an all done) but would rather stay self employed and keep working than get the full amount and and scamming taking cash in hand. Maybe Im too honest but my conscience is clear
Just want to add that I have no dependants, If i did I would do anything to make sure I could provide for them.
Clone: I think you may be taking her post out of context. The OP was the person generalising about single mothers. She was making a point that not all single mothers are on welfare and not all are "scrounging" off the state...or at least thats what I hope she meant.
I dont think any body here is against some one getting welfare or a flat or any other type of support.
to be honest its not the single mother I care about or worry for its the child or children should be the priority.
Personally I like a good discussion...tis a forum after all
I dont think any body here is against some one getting welfare or a flat or any other type of support.
to be honest its not the single mother I care about or worry for its the child or children should be the priority.
Personally I like a good discussion...tis a forum after all
Maybe it is the way she ment it but it was the way it was worded that got my goat up... I was just making a point for people to see that not everyone thinks along these lines..
AS a single mother myself I work but would never begrudge anybody a flat or even benefits because my taxes are paying for it.. We are after all a mixed culture nation and everyone deserves a chance to give their kids a good wholesome upbringing..
catsaway: Maybe it is the way she ment it but it was the way it was worded that got my goat up... I was just making a point for people to see that not everyone thinks along these lines..
AS a single mother myself I work but would never begrudge anybody a flat or even benefits because my taxes are paying for it.. We are after all a mixed culture nation and everyone deserves a chance to give their kids a good wholesome upbringing..
AS a single mother myself I work but would never begrudge anybody a flat or even benefits because my taxes are paying for it.. We are after all a mixed culture nation and everyone deserves a chance to give their kids a good wholesome upbringing..
Well basically chuckles and the others share the same view point as you mostly from what I can gather...it was the OPs comments that people were reacting against.
Peoples circumstance vary and for some people it just is not feasible to work while they have kids for what ever reason. Its not a black and white area as Im sure as a single mother you well know.
As for the begrudgers??? Like to see how they would cope.
Clone: Well basically chuckles and the others share the same view point as you mostly from what I can gather...it was the OPs comments that people were reacting against.
Peoples circumstance vary and for some people it just is not feasible to work while they have kids for what ever reason. Its not a black and white area as Im sure as a single mother you well know.
As for the begrudgers??? Like to see how they would cope.
Peoples circumstance vary and for some people it just is not feasible to work while they have kids for what ever reason. Its not a black and white area as Im sure as a single mother you well know.
As for the begrudgers??? Like to see how they would cope.
Yeah Im an opinionated GIT at times
Clone: Yeah Im an opinionated GIT at times
Well it's better to have an opinion of your own rather than go with the sterotypical views of the narrow minded..
I have read over the whole thread now and agree that most were just venting about this or that but seriously it pisses me off when people assume to know what single mothers go through..
catsaway: Well it's better to have an opinion of your own rather than go with the sterotypical views of the narrow minded..
I have read over the whole thread now and agree that most were just venting about this or that but seriously it pisses me off when people assume to know what single mothers go through..
I have read over the whole thread now and agree that most were just venting about this or that but seriously it pisses me off when people assume to know what single mothers go through..
It was an awful thread, I was upset for the day after it!irish1978eyes: It was an awful thread, I was upset for the day after it!
I can see why it was just blown out of the water by the remarks made by the OP..
catsaway: I can see why it was just blown out of the water by the remarks made by the OP..
Harmony restored.
irish1978eyes: It was an awful thread, I was upset for the day after it!
Really? I thought it was kind of interesting bar some comments but your going to get that in any forum.
Im new to all of ye so It lets me see how people think and react...thats right folks....Im watching
wexlady41: I think you misunderstood.
She was stating how she replied to someone who had insulted her personally. She was not in any way commenting on anyone elses situation, needs, wants, entitlements or lifestyle.
If you read the conversation up to the post you quoted I think you will see this.
She was stating how she replied to someone who had insulted her personally. She was not in any way commenting on anyone elses situation, needs, wants, entitlements or lifestyle.
If you read the conversation up to the post you quoted I think you will see this.
Have already done so if you read back you will see I stated this..
catsaway: Have already done so if you read back you will see I stated this..
Sorry..you had posted while I was still typing.
wexlady41: Sorry..you had posted while I was still typing.
Not to worry just soem crossed wire clone sorted it all out though he is the peace keeper...
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Are there really no jobs out there though?
I advertised a job last Thursday for a telesales rep and the response so far has been useless. Every applicant so far has been either kids fresh from their leaving or people with absolutely no experience.