Atheists and Christmas ( Archived) (61)

Dec 7, 2009 12:50 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
ali110: Yes,it is celebrated in all countries including pakistan ,also i have good wishes for my all christian friend on cs


...and non......the message of good wishes and peace to all is universal....beyond geographical...... religious.....or etnichal borders.....

peace
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Dec 7, 2009 12:51 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Atheists ... repel .. dooom day is coming .....

(ummm, not that i can save you or me , but hey... its wort a shot )


banana drinking banana banana banana
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Dec 7, 2009 12:54 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
ali110: Athiests can share christmas for thier christian friends but chritmas belongs to christains/blievers


you are a blind man.........

and henceforth Im blind to you......
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Dec 7, 2009 12:56 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Konigsberg: O! Trish you've saved me so much time on copy and past.

Seriously


Thank you and Hello hug wave bouquet
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Dec 7, 2009 12:58 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
rizlared: Read Trish's dialogue, it fully answers your question


Thanks Riz wave
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Dec 7, 2009 12:59 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
artist
artistartistcumbernauld, Strathclyde, Scotland UK28 Posts
lets not kid ourselves here the overall view of xmas now is SATANIC it is a festival of greed want gluttony and waste. The one person who would not appreciate this abomination in their name has to be jesus christ, there is nothing christian about any of . Its gash and im no way doing that
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Dec 7, 2009 1:13 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
trish123: you are a blind man.........

and henceforth Im blind to you......
i am not blind,u cannot prove anything becoz u r on wrong way(Nonbliever)dunno
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Dec 7, 2009 1:42 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
Great explanation, Trish! Very interesting. Will keep it.
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Dec 7, 2009 1:47 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
ali110: Athiests dont celebrate Christmas they dont blieve in Jesus christ and God


This thread was questionning Atheists. Why do you answer? Why do you pretend to know what Atheists think or do? very mad
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Dec 7, 2009 1:48 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
bay163
bay163bay163san mateo, California USA8 Threads 4 Polls 991 Posts
ojisanC: How do Atheists celebrate Christmas?
Do they take the day off like everybody else?
Do they switch work days with a christian on Christmas day?
Do they go to work and be the only one at the work place?


Basically they do whatever they can to forget about hell fire and damnation, thus you see their outrage as posted here, how dare you ask they say, the reason they curse the heavens is because they see eternal suffering and for some reason they are like deer in the headlights, they cant move, they cant even answer a simple freaking question like "do you use intuition" watch how they hide from this simple question, why because the answer ends with them burning in hell fire forever, I hoped this answer clears everything up. angel
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Dec 7, 2009 1:51 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
I keep saying this. December 25 is a Pagan festival and all the decrees from the Vatican cannot make that date have anything to do with Jesus Christ.professor
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Dec 7, 2009 1:54 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
bay163: Basically they do whatever they can to forget about hell fire and damnation, thus you see their outrage as posted here, how dare you ask they say, the reason they curse the heavens is because they see eternal suffering and for some reason they are like deer in the headlights, they cant move, they cant even answer a simple freaking question like "do you use intuition" watch how they hide from this simple question, why because the answer ends with them burning in hell fire forever, I hoped this answer clears everything up.



Same question to you:
This thread was questionning Atheists. Why do you answer? Why do you pretend to know what Atheists think or do? very mad
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Dec 7, 2009 2:02 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
scousedon
scousedonscousedonLiverpool, Cheshire, England UK14 Threads 4 Polls 1,643 Posts
gabrielle95: Same question to you:
This thread was questionning Atheists. Why do you answer? Why do you pretend to know what Atheists think or do?


Answer for me: It is the same reason for most here, it is Pagan festival that lets us join with family and friends to rejoice in our love for each other, to bestow some kind of symbol of this (a present) Christians may go to midnight mass but generally athiests just go to the pub, friends, or family and use the few days off work to get together with people that mean so much to them and generally speaking the Athiest considers it a neede break at a cold and miserable time of the year in the Northern hemisphere.
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Dec 7, 2009 2:13 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
gabrielle95: This thread was questionning Atheists. Why do you answer? Why do you pretend to know what Atheists think or do?
O really? i thought it is for blieversrolling on the floor laughing
Sorry Aunty
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Dec 7, 2009 2:13 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
bay163
bay163bay163san mateo, California USA8 Threads 4 Polls 991 Posts
gabrielle95: Same question to you:
This thread was questionning Atheists. Why do you answer? Why do you pretend to know what Atheists think or do?


See how moronically insane you are read the freaking questions, it is asking about atheists, and since I see all of you lying and decieving all over the place I answered him. Now you answer my freaking question, Do you use intuition??? Answer me Woman.laugh
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Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
bay163: See how moronically insane you are read the freaking questions, it is asking about atheists, and since I see all of you lying and decieving all over the place I answered him. Now you answer my freaking question, Do you use intuition??? Answer me Woman.
thumbs up thumbs up rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 7, 2009 2:26 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
gabrielle95: Great explanation, Trish! Very interesting. Will keep it.


Thanks Gabrielle, theres loads more if you're interested. Did you ever wonder why in pictures the reindeer fly and have red noses, did you ever wonder why christmas cards and trees are decorated with mushrooms? Its nothing to do with the coca cola ads lets say...........





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Dec 7, 2009 3:05 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
steve6610
steve6610steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 Posts
trish123: Thanks Gabrielle, theres loads more if you're interested. Did you ever wonder why in pictures the reindeer fly and have red noses, did you ever wonder why christmas cards and trees are decorated with mushrooms? Its nothing to do with the coca cola ads lets say...........http://animamrecro.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/hallucinogenic-mushrooms-and-santa-claus/



I thought either the reindeers had colds or were a bit tipsy laugh

the christmas tree also had signifigance in christmas 1914 , the germans had little trees with lights on them over most parts of the western front
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Dec 7, 2009 3:53 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
steve6610: I thought either the reindeers had colds or were a bit tipsy

the christmas tree also had signifigance in christmas 1914 , the germans had little trees with lights on them over most parts of the western front


I think that was to do with Martin Luther Steve, hes mentioned at the bottom of this piece;

Origins of the Christmas Tree:

Many Pagan cultures used to cut boughs of evergreen trees in December, move them into the home or temple, and decorate them. Modern-day Pagans still do. This was to recognize the winter solstice -- the time of the year that had the shortest daylight hours, and longest night of the year. This occurs annually sometime between DEC-20 to 23.

They noticed that the days were gradually getting shorter; many feared that the sun would eventually disappear forever, and everyone would freeze. But, even though deciduous trees, bushes, and crops died or hibernated for the winter, the evergreen trees remained green. They seemed to have magical powers that enabled them to withstand the rigors of winter.

Not having evergreen trees, the ancient Egyptians considered the palm tree to symbolize resurrection. They decorated their homes with its branches during the winter solstice. "The first decorating of an evergreen tree began with the heathen Greeks and their worship of their god Adonia, who allegedly was brought back to life by the serpent Aessulapius after having been slain."

The ancient Pagan Romans decorated their "trees with bits of metal and replicas of their god, Bacchus [a fertility god]. They also placed 12 candles on the tree in honor of their sun god" 2 Their mid-winter festival of Saturnalia started on DEC-17 and often lasted until a few days after the Solstice.

In Northern Europe, the ancient Germanic people tied fruit and attached candles to evergreen tree branches, in honor of their god Woden. Trees were viewed as symbolizing eternal life. This is the deity after which Wednesday was named. The trees joined holly, mistletoe, the wassail bowl and the Yule log as symbols of the season. All predated Christianity.

Christmas traditions:

One Christmas tradition was that St. Boniface (675? - 755; a.k.a. Winfred) cut down a deciduous tree in the presence of some newly-baptized Christians. The tree was an oak -- once sacred to the former Pagans. It miraculously split into four pieces, revealing an evergreen tree growing from the center of the oak stump. This symbolized the death of Paganism and the establishment of Christianity.

Another is that Martin Luther (1483 - 1546) was so impressed by a forest scene that he allegedly cut down a small fir tree, took it home, and decorated it with lighted candles. This is probably a myth, because the earliest documented record of a Christmas tree in Germany is dated to almost 60 years after his death.

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Dec 7, 2009 6:01 PM CST Atheists and Christmas
bay163
bay163bay163san mateo, California USA8 Threads 4 Polls 991 Posts
trish123: Ill pass on that one, thanks all the same


You still have your good Catholic girl instincts.applause
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