Reincarnation (339)
MGaff: Paradox: Truth standing on its head trying to get your attention!
proof that it never really is what you think it is until you think it is. Or is it? 
Apparently our next move through spiritual evolution is one of processing the paradoxes. Have you ever read the Law Of One?
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bohdiprana: A choice of service to others, or service to self ?
Exactly.
Higher self?
let me put it in terms of numbers, 10 is all mind-one mind.
11 the brotherhood of all stars, 12 the sisterhood of planets, 13 Goddess consciousness, 14 God consciousness, 15 consciousness of all Human souls, 16 Avatars, 17 Great Sleeper-Dreamers, 18 Keepers of Karma/Dharma, 19 Architechs of the Universe,
To be so much with compassion (or maybe karma in our words) that it isn't a question any more? Kind of like breathing does breathing, we don't need to pay attention to it? Becoming no self?
Exactly.
Higher self?
let me put it in terms of numbers, 10 is all mind-one mind.
11 the brotherhood of all stars, 12 the sisterhood of planets, 13 Goddess consciousness, 14 God consciousness, 15 consciousness of all Human souls, 16 Avatars, 17 Great Sleeper-Dreamers, 18 Keepers of Karma/Dharma, 19 Architechs of the Universe,
To be so much with compassion (or maybe karma in our words) that it isn't a question any more? Kind of like breathing does breathing, we don't need to pay attention to it? Becoming no self?
Spot on!
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The lost teaching of Atlantis one?
bohdiprana: proof that it never really is what you think it is until you think it is. Or is it? Apparently our next move through spiritual evolution is one of processing the paradoxes. Have you ever read the Law Of One?
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MGaff: A choice of service to others, or service to self ?
Exactly.
Higher self?
let me put it in terms of numbers, 10 is all mind-one mind.
11 the brotherhood of all stars, 12 the sisterhood of planets, 13 Goddess consciousness, 14 God consciousness, 15 consciousness of all Human souls, 16 Avatars, 17 Great Sleeper-Dreamers, 18 Keepers of Karma/Dharma, 19 Architechs of the Universe,
Exactly.
Higher self?
let me put it in terms of numbers, 10 is all mind-one mind.
11 the brotherhood of all stars, 12 the sisterhood of planets, 13 Goddess consciousness, 14 God consciousness, 15 consciousness of all Human souls, 16 Avatars, 17 Great Sleeper-Dreamers, 18 Keepers of Karma/Dharma, 19 Architechs of the Universe,
Sounds like the hierarchical nature of archetypes, including the higher self. Most of the more ancient philosophies are congruent n this, which may be why they tend to blend more so than religion.
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bohdiprana: Sounds like the hierarchical nature of archetypes, including the higher self. Most of the more ancient philosophies are congruent n this, which may be why they tend to blend more so than religion.
yup, then as the eastern traditions say humans have 7 chakra, we see 20, each is a link to each of these, but opening the higher wheels requires the assistance of one who have already had them opened. Where it began, who knows!
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MGaff: The lost teaching of Atlantis one?
No, the Ra sessions.
Though there is reference in later recordings regarding what we call the Atlantians now being whales and dolphins. The above gets into incarnations, chakras, densities and dimensions, procession through 'octaves', higher life forms and a whole host of subject matter concerning our illusion and the rest of the One Creator. Archetypes as well.
there have been many since this one in 1982 as well as a great number of like occurrences that are of course available on You Tube, Bashar, being one of them.
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MGaff: yup, then as the eastern traditions say humans have 7 chakra, we see 20, each is a link to each of these, but opening the higher wheels requires the assistance of one who have already had them opened. Where it began, who knows!
As each wheel is opened it brings the Challenges and Karma of that wheel, when this has been worked through we can then move to the next, tho the 11 and 12, 13 and 14 are opened as pairs...
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bohdiprana: No, the Ra sessions.
Though there is reference in later recordings regarding what we call the Atlantians now being whales and dolphins. The above gets into incarnations, chakras, densities and dimensions, procession through 'octaves', higher life forms and a whole host of subject matter concerning our illusion and the rest of the One Creator. Archetypes as well.there have been many since this one in 1982 as well as a great number of like occurrences that are of course available on You Tube, Bashar, being one of them.
Though there is reference in later recordings regarding what we call the Atlantians now being whales and dolphins. The above gets into incarnations, chakras, densities and dimensions, procession through 'octaves', higher life forms and a whole host of subject matter concerning our illusion and the rest of the One Creator. Archetypes as well.there have been many since this one in 1982 as well as a great number of like occurrences that are of course available on You Tube, Bashar, being one of them.
These are channeled?
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MGaff: yup, then as the eastern traditions say humans have 7 chakra, we see 20, each is a link to each of these, but opening the higher wheels requires the assistance of one who have already had them opened. Where it began, who knows!
7 main chakras, but a large number of so called lessor chakras, that oddly or not so oddly mirror the earth's better zero point energy areas.Ascended masters being those who help to open up our chakras? I think there is possibility this happens as a matter of evolution as well, preordained events so to speak that are cyclical and reflect in DNA sequencing of organisms.
It seems that a lot of ancient teachings hold a great deal more information than religionists would have us believe. But that said, a path is a path.
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Lostrebel: I would like to hear some views on this subject...I find it rather interesting myself ....
I don't.
The dali lama told me I'm coming back as a cockroach.
I don't think that was very nice of him.
I know roaches are cool survivors but I thought my karma was better than that!
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MGaff: These are channeled?
As I recall 106 pages, channeled over a three year period. What is amazing is that this Ra, never breaks code, never loses his place and isn't ever fooled by questioning that seems to test Ra's validity to see if he is still saying the same thing.
The channellings continue today as well, though, other entities are being channeled as well as other channelers. There are some later sessions where the entity itself changes the one it is using as the instrument, the channeler, without notice and still doesn't skip a beat in it's discourse.
I find them interesting and in support of a lot of ancient teachings.
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RobertC2: I don't.
The dali lama told me I'm coming back as a cockroach.
I don't think that was very nice of him.
I know roaches are cool survivors but I thought my karma was better than that!
we can only hope for the best Robert.....The dali lama told me I'm coming back as a cockroach.
I don't think that was very nice of him.
I know roaches are cool survivors but I thought my karma was better than that!
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bohdiprana: As I recall 106 pages, channeled over a three year period. What is amazing is that this Ra, never breaks code, never loses his place and isn't ever fooled by questioning that seems to test Ra's validity to see if he is still saying the same thing.
The channellings continue today as well, though, other entities are being channeled as well as other channelers. There are some later sessions where the entity itself changes the one it is using as the instrument, the channeler, without notice and still doesn't skip a beat in it's discourse.
I find them interesting and in support of a lot of ancient teachings.
I used to have 106 channels...but I went back to basic cable so now I only have 13 channels....The channellings continue today as well, though, other entities are being channeled as well as other channelers. There are some later sessions where the entity itself changes the one it is using as the instrument, the channeler, without notice and still doesn't skip a beat in it's discourse.
I find them interesting and in support of a lot of ancient teachings.
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Lostrebel: I used to have 106 channels...but I went back to basic cable so now I only have 13 channels....
when you learn that less is more you can then do more with less.
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MGaff: What exactly are you looking for here dude?
Just for Prana to elaborate and recognize a state of fractal reality in more acute terms. I'm not going to just nod me head to his generalizations.
bohdiprana: If using YOU is not enough oneness, then using 'other' examples will seem more vague to you.
Another attempt to avoid what I have asked of you because of your assumption of what may seem vague to me? That's why I ask, I want you to elaborate on these other examples. I want to make sure it's not vague to you! lol
bohdiprana:
You think as we all do... this is your life. It proceeds according to thought/consciousness. if you see an event as a negative/bad (ie war) you can still find the positive in it, to balance your polarity.
You think as we all do... this is your life. It proceeds according to thought/consciousness. if you see an event as a negative/bad (ie war) you can still find the positive in it, to balance your polarity.
Do I think as you all do? What exactly are my thoughts? You don't know my exact thoughts nor do you know the exact thoughts of others unless you have research you'd like to present?
People who see most events as negative are negative people and in the same sense people who can make a positive from a negative (learning experience) are wise people. With that said, there are wars going on right now. Can you point to an era in our earth's history when there was no war? Events have been repeating along a fractal spiral is what I see here and I don't see any change until things are radically changes.
bohdiprana:
There is no right path. I see you are trying to say that, things should be one way, things are right this way or that way. They are not in reality anything but 'things' that you choose in polarity to follow or believe. There is no single path, you may choose as desired even if it is to happy all the time, with practice you can do this. I am addictive personality, so I know about application of passion toward a 'thing'.
There is no right path. I see you are trying to say that, things should be one way, things are right this way or that way. They are not in reality anything but 'things' that you choose in polarity to follow or believe. There is no single path, you may choose as desired even if it is to happy all the time, with practice you can do this. I am addictive personality, so I know about application of passion toward a 'thing'.
Finally, you show signs of being rational in real terms lol.
bohdiprana:
I am balanced in the game my friend. It was an amazing game. I don't see the 'identity' of US/Can at all, though it's fun to poke the stick at you in football and hockey to tickle your competitive spirit. I'm not focused on the winning losing, unless I wagered
I am balanced in the game my friend. It was an amazing game. I don't see the 'identity' of US/Can at all, though it's fun to poke the stick at you in football and hockey to tickle your competitive spirit. I'm not focused on the winning losing, unless I wagered
But you did want Canada to win and I know you cheer for certain NHL teams hahaha. I have proof of that!
bohdiprana:
Complete balance I think would be nothingness T. Potential energy. I have preference as well to the choice of bias on polarity, toward the good side now. I see changes in my world, others may not, but it's not their world, even if it's contributory to all of consciousness, and that too becomes an important factor in the movement of man as whole, because I see the negativity of war, becoming a great desire for peace.
I love pardox
Complete balance I think would be nothingness T. Potential energy. I have preference as well to the choice of bias on polarity, toward the good side now. I see changes in my world, others may not, but it's not their world, even if it's contributory to all of consciousness, and that too becomes an important factor in the movement of man as whole, because I see the negativity of war, becoming a great desire for peace.
I love pardox
This was all I was asking for. Thanks for putting your foot down and stopping for a minute, your dance was getting silly my man
Now we have a better sense of understanding and our inherent differences through a serious of exchanges. Oneness encompasses a lot of things, and I do see the Oneness from the broader perspective you have been speaking about. I was trying to focus in on the separation within the collective oneness---our reality right now---in real time---the leaves on the branches---the branches on the trees---the roots of tree and the soil composition for those trees and so on. There are further truths to be realized here. Wisdom is knowing how little we know! I will always believe that. The doors of perception and expression are infinite it would seem and now with the emergence of the fractal paradigm in all fields, it's making more sense.------ This thread is Archived ------
bohdiprana: 7 main chakras, but a large number of so called lessor chakras, that oddly or not so oddly mirror the earth's better zero point energy areas.
Ascended masters being those who help to open up our chakras? I think there is possibility this happens as a matter of evolution as well, preordained events so to speak that are cyclical and reflect in DNA sequencing of organisms.
l would find it difficult to see that it would be otherwise, tho sufi's for instance say that you need an ascended one to bring you across. lts a difficult one to answer, Jesus had John the Baptist, tho Guatama apparently did it himself, but who knows. l suppose if you look at it from the point of view that it essentially represents an end to the Self in terms of Ego, then it would be easier to believe that it would require something outside of that self as you demonstate that you are part of a greater whole and surrender in service?
It seems that a lot of ancient teachings hold a great deal more information than religionists would have us believe. But that said, a path is a path.
Ascended masters being those who help to open up our chakras? I think there is possibility this happens as a matter of evolution as well, preordained events so to speak that are cyclical and reflect in DNA sequencing of organisms.
l would find it difficult to see that it would be otherwise, tho sufi's for instance say that you need an ascended one to bring you across. lts a difficult one to answer, Jesus had John the Baptist, tho Guatama apparently did it himself, but who knows. l suppose if you look at it from the point of view that it essentially represents an end to the Self in terms of Ego, then it would be easier to believe that it would require something outside of that self as you demonstate that you are part of a greater whole and surrender in service?
It seems that a lot of ancient teachings hold a great deal more information than religionists would have us believe. But that said, a path is a path.
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StressFree: Just for Prana to elaborate and recognize a state of fractal reality in more acute terms. I'm not going to just nod me head to his generalizations.
Another attempt to avoid what I have asked of you because of your assumption of what may seem vague to me? That's why I ask, I want you to elaborate on these other examples. I want to make sure it's not vague to you! lol
Do I think as you all do? What exactly are my thoughts? You don't know my exact thoughts nor do you know the exact thoughts of others unless you have research you'd like to present?
People who see most events as negative are negative people and in the same sense people who can make a positive from a negative (learning experience) are wise people. With that said, there are wars going on right now. Can you point to an era in our earth's history when there was no war? Events have been repeating along a fractal spiral is what I see here and I don't see any change until things are radically changes.
Finally, you show signs of being rational in real terms lol.
But you did want Canada to win and I know you cheer for certain NHL teams hahaha. I have proof of that!
This was all I was asking for. Thanks for putting your foot down and stopping for a minute, your dance was getting silly my man Now we have a better sense of understanding and our inherent differences through a serious of exchanges. Oneness encompasses a lot of things, and I do see the Oneness from the broader perspective you have been speaking about. I was trying to focus in on the separation within the collective oneness---our reality right now---in real time---the leaves on the branches---the branches on the trees---the roots of tree and the soil composition for those trees and so on. There are further truths to be realized here. Wisdom is knowing how little we know! I will always believe that. The doors of perception and expression are infinite it would seem and now with the emergence of the fractal paradigm in all fields, it's making more sense.
Another attempt to avoid what I have asked of you because of your assumption of what may seem vague to me? That's why I ask, I want you to elaborate on these other examples. I want to make sure it's not vague to you! lol
Do I think as you all do? What exactly are my thoughts? You don't know my exact thoughts nor do you know the exact thoughts of others unless you have research you'd like to present?
People who see most events as negative are negative people and in the same sense people who can make a positive from a negative (learning experience) are wise people. With that said, there are wars going on right now. Can you point to an era in our earth's history when there was no war? Events have been repeating along a fractal spiral is what I see here and I don't see any change until things are radically changes.
Finally, you show signs of being rational in real terms lol.
But you did want Canada to win and I know you cheer for certain NHL teams hahaha. I have proof of that!
This was all I was asking for. Thanks for putting your foot down and stopping for a minute, your dance was getting silly my man Now we have a better sense of understanding and our inherent differences through a serious of exchanges. Oneness encompasses a lot of things, and I do see the Oneness from the broader perspective you have been speaking about. I was trying to focus in on the separation within the collective oneness---our reality right now---in real time---the leaves on the branches---the branches on the trees---the roots of tree and the soil composition for those trees and so on. There are further truths to be realized here. Wisdom is knowing how little we know! I will always believe that. The doors of perception and expression are infinite it would seem and now with the emergence of the fractal paradigm in all fields, it's making more sense.
No offence dude, but l'm no more enlightened or aware for having gone through and followed the exchange, except perhaps to say that l have learned that Prana has more patience than l do, but then the path he walks requires that of him where mine does not!
From my perspective, what l think there is an absence of is Harmony, but that in no way effects the oneness. So the question for me is: is the stance you take one that makes you an agent for Harmony, or an agent for disharmony, do you contribute to the problem that you perceive, or do you work to antidote it? Not a question to you personally, but one l think we need to ask ourselves, like l said no offence intended.
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StressFree: Just for Prana to elaborate and recognize a state of fractal reality in more acute terms. I'm not going to just nod me head to his generalizations.
Who's asking you to? ya paranoia freak. Booooo! Your mirror is generalizations, so this is what you will see. Break the glass!!! get a new one!
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o I think as you all do? What exactly are my thoughts? You don't know my exact thoughts nor do you know the exact thoughts of others unless you have research you'd like to present?
People who see most events as negative are negative people and in the same sense people who can make a positive from a negative (learning experience) are wise people. With that said, there are wars going on right now. Can you point to an era in our earth's history when there was no war? Events have been repeating along a fractal spiral is what I see here and I don't see any change until things are radically changes.
o I think as you all do? What exactly are my thoughts? You don't know my exact thoughts nor do you know the exact thoughts of others unless you have research you'd like to present?
People who see most events as negative are negative people and in the same sense people who can make a positive from a negative (learning experience) are wise people. With that said, there are wars going on right now. Can you point to an era in our earth's history when there was no war? Events have been repeating along a fractal spiral is what I see here and I don't see any change until things are radically changes.
yes you are fractalized. I agree.
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Finally, you show signs of being rational in real terms lol.
But you did want Canada to win and I know you cheer for certain NHL teams hahaha. I have proof of that!
Finally, you show signs of being rational in real terms lol.
But you did want Canada to win and I know you cheer for certain NHL teams hahaha. I have proof of that!
Must be self evident. If you say so.
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This was all I was asking for. Thanks for putting your foot down and stopping for a minute, your dance was getting silly my man Now we have a better sense of understanding and our inherent differences through a serious of exchanges.
This was all I was asking for. Thanks for putting your foot down and stopping for a minute, your dance was getting silly my man Now we have a better sense of understanding and our inherent differences through a serious of exchanges.
Again if you say so. Make it so number 1.
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Oneness encompassesa lot ALL of things, and I do see the Oneness from the broader perspective you have been speaking about. I was trying to focus in on the separation within the collective oneness---our reality right now---in real time---the leaves on the branches---the branches on the trees---the roots of tree and the soil composition for those trees and so on. There are further truths to be realized here. Wisdom is knowing how little we know! I will always believe that. The doors of perception and expression are infinite it would seem and now with the emergence of the fractal paradigm in all fields, it's making more sense.
Oneness encompasses
Of course you know what this means. You've been chasing your own tail ya woofer. 
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A choice of service to others, or service to self ?
lt is said that there are those beyond the human who are the keepers of Karma, it is they who decide whether you are shown compassion or not, and this would depend on how much Heart you have yourself.
Higher self?
So yes Compassion has its place, but there is a unique slant on it, we strive for "Ruthlessness with Heart"