MGaff: again beneath your words l see a judgement, that chaos is bad...l do not see it is this way.
you see what YOU wish to see....I see nothing as bad only differant levels of good....and of course I am judgemental ...that is the natural way for a mind such as the human mind is capable of doing so....does not make it right or wrong it just is...
MGaff: l see this. We all have more than our physical body with which to perceive....
Yes, you are right. We are on the same ethereal page now...You must have celtic genes in you...but blue eyed white men I have some distrust for blue eyed people...is this wrong?
MGaff: l would disagree that chance is coincidence, l see chance as a choatic and unpredictable yet essential element of existance. Coincidence on the other hand l see as a glimpse of a greater order that we don't have the capacity to comprehend in its totality. The elements that allow life to exist on this planet, its location and distance relative to the Sun, the location of the Moon and its distance relative to the planet itself, these are all too precisely balanced to be put down to chance. The ecosystem upon the planet is just as finely balanced, as we are beginning to find out! Does this answer your question?
I watched a movie last night, called Next. It's about a guy who can see two minutes into the future. Later n the movie he can see a few hours ahead. Great movie, that shows relativistic parameters in being able to predict on 'probability vortices' what our future will be.
"When you look at your future it changes your future because you looked at it."
However, this is rather like manipulating the entropy (ordered chaos) of expected probability. The more you know, the easier it is to create the future you want, to control the entropy and intercede at points to your liking, making it a less 'chancey' future. But, would it be coincidence or chance that you find yourself able to do this. Would this also be perfect balance of the system?
Very wrong in these times as the indigos are arriving, most will have blue eyes!
StressFree: Yes, you are right. We are on the same ethereal page now...You must have celtic genes in you...but blue eyed white men I have some distrust for blue eyed people...is this wrong?
bohdiprana: I watched a movie last night, called Next. It's about a guy who can see two minutes into the future. Later n the movie he can see a few hours ahead. Great movie, that shows relativistic parameters in being able to predict on 'probability vortices' what our future will be.
"When you look at your future it changes your future because you looked at it."
However, this is rather like manipulating the entropy (ordered chaos) of expected probability. The more you know, the easier it is to create the future you want, to control the entropy and intercede at points to your liking, making it a less 'chancey' future. But, would it be coincidence or chance that you find yourself able to do this. Would this also be perfect balance of the system?
If you view it as a system....water runs down hill "naturally" but the stream or river will change paths many times over it life cycle ....thats just what happens....I see it as a cycle that will come back to the beginning and start over ...but the course it takes each time may vary immensly
Lostrebel: If you view it as a system....water runs down hill "naturally" but the stream or river will change paths many times over it life cycle ....thats just what happens....I see it as a cycle that will come back to the beginning and start over ...but the course it takes each time may vary immensly
Water is first level entity. The fact that you see it this ways has meaning. Your first element is still heavy weight in your consciousness. Again, not right or wrong. The mind tends to reflect not only it's belief but what is also most relevant in it's nature. Could be you are also a water sign, astrologically. Both are possible. The mind resorts to what it knows, speaking it's history in truth.
In lay terms:
First level entity- water, rock, stones, metals, air, crystals. Second level entity- trees, plants, animals Third level entity- Humans
I'll leave out higher levels, invoking the Law of Confusion.
Lostrebel: If you view it as a system....water runs down hill "naturally" but the stream or river will change paths many times over it life cycle ....thats just what happens....I see it as a cycle that will come back to the beginning and start over ...but the course it takes each time may vary immensly
BTW. what water does 'here' in this illusion, is only natural to 'here'.
Water in a vacuum behaves differently. And water on other planets or other places might well flow uphill and or dance etc.
In fact it is entirely possible that water somewhere may be as or more sentient than us feeble young humans consider ourselves to be. Water droplets may be able to group like minded droplets and become a form. Infinity allows for everything.
bohdiprana: BTW. what water does 'here' in this illusion, is only natural to 'here'.
Water in a vacuum behaves differently. And water on other planets or other places might well flow uphill and or dance etc.
In fact it is entirely possible that water somewhere may be as or more sentient than us feeble young humans consider ourselves to be. Water droplets may be able to group like minded droplets and become a form. Infinity allows for everything.
what you see as an illusion I see as it just is....and all this talk of first level and such is only one view ...I do not place myself above or below anything I am what I am, am where I am naturally and nothing governed this ...not god , not mohammad,not christ,not karma....it just simply is the natural result of the twists and turns nature has taken over the course of "Time" if you wish I am not into all this water signs and earth signs and such ....Astrology is just another religion ....being an atheist,in my view is just another religon as well...I see all beliefs or no belief as religon ...some just choose to see religon as good or bad ....agian I don't...
Lostrebel: what you see as an illusion I see as it just is....and all this talk of first level and such is only one view ...I do not place myself above or below anything I am what I am, am where I am naturally and nothing governed this ...not god , not mohammad,not christ,not karma....it just simply is the natural result of the twists and turns nature has taken over the course of "Time" if you wish I am not into all this water signs and earth signs and such ....Astrology is just another religion ....being an atheist,in my view is just another religon as well...I see all beliefs or no belief as religon ...some just choose to see religon as good or bad ....agian I don't...
Lostrebel: what you see as an illusion I see as it just is....and all this talk of first level and such is only one view ...I do not place myself above or below anything I am what I am, am where I am naturally and nothing governed this ...not god , not mohammad,not christ,not karma....it just simply is the natural result of the twists and turns nature has taken over the course of "Time" if you wish I am not into all this water signs and earth signs and such ....Astrology is just another religion ....being an atheist,in my view is just another religon as well...I see all beliefs or no belief as religon ...some just choose to see religon as good or bad ....agian I don't...
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l see this. We all have more than our physical body with which to perceive....