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Jan 19, 2010 2:34 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
Imagine this….

You’re not divorced from your ex.

You aren’t happy with each other, you fight like cats and dogs and all you can think about is getting a divorce.

But then you are caught in an earthquake, such as the one in Haiti. You are under a building of concrete, and you start to think. Other then hoping to be rescued, what would you think about under all that concrete.

Would you think twice about resolving the issues you have with your spouse? Maybe it's not as bad as it seems.

Or, would you still want a divorce when you get out from under the rubble........if you make it out alive.

Would you think that life isn’t as bad as it seemed moments before the earthquake?

Do you think being at the brink of death encourages people to put their problems on the back burner, to try to work things out and not resort to the easy way out.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:37 PM CST On Second Thought
danigirl587
danigirl587danigirl587DeQuincy, Louisiana USA4 Threads 194 Posts
Well I can't say that I've ever thought about it like that. I'm pretty sure that if a person is in that type of situation they might want to make up because whatever the problem was would seem silly after almost loosing your life.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:39 PM CST On Second Thought
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
snuggs98: Imagine this….

You’re not divorced from your ex.

You aren’t happy with each other, you fight like cats and dogs and all you can think about is getting a divorce.

But then you are caught in an earthquake, such as the one in Haiti. You are under a building of concrete, and you start to think. Other then hoping to be rescued, what would you think about under all that concrete.

Would you think twice about resolving the issues you have with your spouse? Maybe it's not as bad as it seems.

Or, would you still want a divorce when you get out from under the rubble........if you make it out alive.

Would you think that life isn’t as bad as it seemed moments before the earthquake?

Do you think being at the brink of death encourages people to put their problems on the back burner, to try to work things out and not resort to the easy way out.

excellent threadthumbs up
in some moments we realize how insignificant our disagreements are ... in the other hand.. once I broke her heart ..or she has broken mine...there is no turning back...
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Jan 19, 2010 2:39 PM CST On Second Thought
Kalimera
KalimeraKalimeraDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1,708 Posts
snuggs98: Imagine this….

You’re not divorced from your ex.

You aren’t happy with each other, you fight like cats and dogs and all you can think about is getting a divorce.

But then you are caught in an earthquake, such as the one in Haiti. You are under a building of concrete, and you start to think. Other then hoping to be rescued, what would you think about under all that concrete.

Would you think twice about resolving the issues you have with your spouse? Maybe it's not as bad as it seems.

Or, would you still want a divorce when you get out from under the rubble........if you make it out alive.

Would you think that life isn’t as bad as it seemed moments before the earthquake?

Do you think being at the brink of death encourages people to put their problems on the back burner, to try to work things out and not resort to the easy way out.




For me divorce certainly wasnt the easy way out. And I cannot see any circunstances where I would have reconsidered ending my marriage. I was very ill at one point during my marraige and actually it made me realise how I was wasting my life and that of my childrens in an unhealthy and unhappy environment.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:40 PM CST On Second Thought
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
danigirl587: Well I can't say that I've ever thought about it like that. I'm pretty sure that if a person is in that type of situation they might want to make up because whatever the problem was would seem silly after almost loosing your life.


If I were on the brink of death, as you suggested, I would hope that the divorce would come through before I died.

That way I would die a happy man yay
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Jan 19, 2010 2:41 PM CST On Second Thought
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
snuggs98: Imagine this….

You’re not divorced from your ex.

You aren’t happy with each other, you fight like cats and dogs and all you can think about is getting a divorce.

But then you are caught in an earthquake, such as the one in Haiti. You are under a building of concrete, and you start to think. Other then hoping to be rescued, what would you think about under all that concrete.

Would you think twice about resolving the issues you have with your spouse? Maybe it's not as bad as it seems.

Or, would you still want a divorce when you get out from under the rubble........if you make it out alive.

Would you think that life isn’t as bad as it seemed moments before the earthquake?

Do you think being at the brink of death encourages people to put their problems on the back burner, to try to work things out and not resort to the easy way out.
Regarding the obvious point of your question in time of trouble we , always go for what is easy and comfortable. Problems do go on the back burner and you pull togother to solve the current dilema.But and it's a big but, very few recocile at this point, most go ahead with the divorce although on better terms.cheers
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Jan 19, 2010 2:44 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
Englishman55: If I were on the brink of death, as you suggested, I would hope that the divorce would come through before I died.

That way I would die a happy man



I understand what you are saying. We, who are divorced, thought that those years of marriage to him/her were the worst. But let me put it this way.........

Turn on CNN and watch the rescue workers pull people out from under layers and layers of concrete. Put yourself in place of one of those people and then tell me that you still hate her.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:46 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
patmac: Regarding the obvious point of your question in time of trouble we , always go for what is easy and comfortable. Problems do go on the back burner and you pull togother to solve the current dilema.But and it's a big but, very few recocile at this point, most go ahead with the divorce although on better terms.


My husband was an alcoholic that I lived with for seven years. I cannot imagine either he or I being under that concrete and still going ahead with the divorce. I would think that life has given us one more chance to make things right.

However, please know that I do respect everyone's opinion.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:47 PM CST On Second Thought
Kalimera
KalimeraKalimeraDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1,708 Posts
snuggs98: I understand what you are saying. We, who are divorced, thought that those years of marriage to him/her were the worst. But let me put it this way.........

Turn on CNN and watch the rescue workers pull people out from under layers and layers of concrete. Put yourself in place of one of those people and then tell me that you still hate her.







I dont hate my ex but still doesnt change the fact that nothing would have made me stay in that marriage.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:50 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
Kalimera: I dont hate my ex but still doesnt change the fact that nothing would have made me stay in that marriage.



There are many reasons why people divorce, some of them are serious and some are juvenille. Sometimes forgiveness isn't in the cards. I still can't picture you pulled out from the concrete with a broken leg, or maybe even a leg that has to be amputated and then thinking........I forgot to sign those divorce papers.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:53 PM CST On Second Thought
Kalimera
KalimeraKalimeraDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1,708 Posts
snuggs98: There are many reasons why people divorce, some of them are serious and some are juvenille. Sometimes forgiveness isn't in the cards. I still can't picture you pulled out from the concrete with a broken leg, or maybe even a leg that has to be amputated and then thinking........I forgot to sign those divorce papers.



Well as I have said I was very ill at one point during my marriage, at one stage I was given 2 weeks to live, and it just made me more determined to get out and not waste another day of my life, being close to death had that effect on me not the effect you seem to think it have.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:55 PM CST On Second Thought
lushguy4you
lushguy4youlushguy4youIstanbul, Marmara Turkey44 Threads 3,004 Posts
Always look on the bright side of life
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Jan 19, 2010 2:56 PM CST On Second Thought
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
snuggs98: I understand what you are saying. We, who are divorced, thought that those years of marriage to him/her were the worst. But let me put it this way.........

Turn on CNN and watch the rescue workers pull people out from under layers and layers of concrete. Put yourself in place of one of those people and then tell me that you still hate her.


I am pretty sure my ex would find life a whole lot easier if I were not around.
That's not because of anything that I am doing, but she would be able to carry on her sweet life without me reminding her of what she did.

So if I were to be pulled out of the rubble, she would probably attack the poor sod that rescued me.... Therefore I would not rethink the past !!
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Jan 19, 2010 2:58 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
Kalimera: Well as I have said I was very ill at one point during my marriage, at one stage I was given 2 weeks to live, and it just made me more determined to get out and not waste another day of my life, being close to death had that effect on me not the effect you seem to think it have.



Kali, please don't think I'm judging your decision. I don't have the right to do that. I'm just trying to make general comments about weighing the pros and cons of anything that is going on in our lives when our life is at stake.

I hope that you have fully recovered from your illnesshug bouquet
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Jan 19, 2010 2:58 PM CST On Second Thought
Iseult_1
Iseult_1Iseult_1Baile Atha Claith, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 325 Posts
snuggs98: Imagine this….

You’re not divorced from your ex.

You aren’t happy with each other, you fight like cats and dogs and all you can think about is getting a divorce.

But then you are caught in an earthquake, such as the one in Haiti. You are under a building of concrete, and you start to think. Other then hoping to be rescued, what would you think about under all that concrete.

Would you think twice about resolving the issues you have with your spouse? Maybe it's not as bad as it seems.

Or, would you still want a divorce when you get out from under the rubble........if you make it out alive.

Would you think that life isn’t as bad as it seemed moments before the earthquake?

Do you think being at the brink of death encourages people to put their problems on the back burner, to try to work things out and not resort to the easy way out.


Getting divorced wouldn't even enter your mind in a situation like that. Your instinct for survival would kick in. Cavemen never had time to run around with divorce papers in their hands. If you survived it may make some people think twice and realise what is really important in life - others - maybe not.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:59 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
Englishman55: I am pretty sure my ex would find life a whole lot easier if I were not around.
That's not because of anything that I am doing, but she would be able to carry on her sweet life without me reminding her of what she did.

So if I were to be pulled out of the rubble, she would probably attack the poor sod that rescued me.... Therefore I would not rethink the past !!



I understand ENG, really I do. handshake cheers
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Jan 19, 2010 3:01 PM CST On Second Thought
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
Snuggs you are such a darlin....

Great point...

Its stuff like that would make you forget your petty arguments and you would gel back together...

and perhaps its that in our society where we just want and want and not take consideration of how good we really have it with our patners.

(mind you I dont have a partner) but in times of trouble... I am guessing that you would view your partner in a different light. .. especially if you both worked together to make it..

teddybear
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Jan 19, 2010 3:02 PM CST On Second Thought
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
There was a reason why people wanted to divorce before the earthquake… Would the earthquake remove that reason? If yes, then of course the survivors won’t divorce. But if the external cause hasn’t change anything in their marriage, then yes, it’s better to divorce than to carry on with the misery of being in unhappy relationship.
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Jan 19, 2010 3:04 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
Iseult_1: Getting divorced wouldn't even enter your mind in a situation like that. Your instinct for survival would kick in. Cavemen never had time to run around with divorce papers in their hands. If you survived it may make some people think twice and realise what is really important in life - others - maybe not.



I agree. But then there's something else to think about.

I'm not sure how to make my point on this, so please be patient with me. Anybody have a shrink Ph.D???

Being in a situation of nearly losing your life may cause you to rethink everything in your life. You recover from the disaster but your mind doesn't recover from the near death experience. Even if you think you no longer want a divorce, even if you still love he/she, even if, if, if, your fears in the back of your mind may not let you go on with your life in the way that you want. So you mend the broken bones but your spirit is still broken. What do you do then?
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Jan 19, 2010 3:08 PM CST On Second Thought
snuggs98
snuggs98snuggs98New Jersey, USA8 Threads 217 Posts
Merriweather: Snuggs you are such a darlin....

Great point...

Its stuff like that would make you forget your petty arguments and you would gel back together...

and perhaps its that in our society where we just want and want and not take consideration of how good we really have it with our patners.

(mind you I dont have a partner) but in times of trouble... I am guessing that you would view your partner in a different light. .. especially if you both worked together to make it..



Thank you Merri. Life isn't easy. Sometimes we have to make choices that aren't popular. And if we came back from a near death experience, I trust that even though most seem to be glad that the "ex" is no longer in their life, if they were there to pull that person out from the rubble, I have no doubt that they would.
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