Englishman55OPSalisbury, Wiltshire, England UK6,405 posts
Just read this from the Yahoo front page, top news Items and thought it worth posting. Food for thought !
Found it to interesting to read, being from a female perspective, but some of which is also applicable to men. The following paragraphs are taken from the book.... Marry Him - The Case For Settling for Mr Goodenough written by Lorri Gottleib, for women.
Here’s what many single women do that we might want to reconsider:
1. We feel entitled. Gottlieb: “Women try to be good friends to each other. We say, ‘You deserve this, you’re so great! You’re such a good catch! Any man would be lucky!’ [Men don’t say that to each other.] We are good catches, but we also are human and we’re not perfect and somebody’s going to have to put up with us for the rest of his life. And we forget. My dating coach said, write down all the reasons a guy would not want to date you. At first I didn’t think I had that many things, because you think you’re a pretty good catch. He said, what you think of as quirky, endearing, and cute, is really annoying to someone else. But he would love you so much that he would overlook that. And you need to overlook things in him. Everybody has to compromise.”
See our tips: 12 Good Things That Come Out of a Bad Date!
2. We think we have unlimited options. Gottlieb: “You walk into a store and you know you want a sweater and it has to go with this outfit and it has to be this color, and you’d like to be on sale. You find something great, but you wonder if there’s something better out there, so you keep searching. In the end, after three more weeks of searching for the perfect sweater—was it so much better than the one you could have bought originally? Whether it’s with men or sweaters…if you just think you have unlimited options for the rest of your life, of course you’ll keep looking, who wouldn’t?”
3. We’re judgmental. Gottlieb: “The guys I interviewed for the book said women judge them so much. Women gave me 300 reasons they wouldn’t go on a second date with a guy, and men gave 3. When guys are ready for that stage of life, they find someone who is good enough that they’re totally in love with—but that person may not seem to the outside world to be as appealing in superficial ways—maybe she’s not as accomplished or funny as the last girl. Whatever he sees in her, he does. Guys don’t sit and micro-analyze a woman the way a woman would with a man. He knows she’s not as hot as the last girl he dated, but that’s okay. She’s hot enough.”
I agree with pretty much all her observations. Some guy posted something about women not going for losers a few days ago, and his points were a foul-mouthed, abusive version of what you've posted, and he got slaughtered. But as these points are so well-written, I reckon they'll be agreed with - it's not what you say, but how you say it
Englishman55OPSalisbury, Wiltshire, England UK6,405 posts
pyr1mid: I agree with pretty much all her observations. Some guy posted something about women not going for losers a few days ago, and his points were a foul-mouthed, abusive version of what you've posted, and he got slaughtered. But as these points are so well-written, I reckon they'll be agreed with - it's not what you say, but how you say it
Thanks Pyr1mid, but these are the words of the authoress, not mine. Could not have bettered them if I had tried.
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
Hi EM - good read
1.Everybody has to compromise...thats true... bit like when you go to work... you dont have to like who you are working with, but you MUST get along...
2.We have unlimited options.... sure do... its how we choose which path is the most intelligent and suitable at the time which defines our characters.
3.We are judgemental.... no... not all of us... I disagree...some of us are just bleeding hearts... and no judgemental.... live and let live ...motto
Girls dont micro- analyze guys either JMO... tis a shared values, a lot of common sense, and interests in common which cause sparks.
By the way EM.... now that you have posed these views... which are yours...
Englishman55OPSalisbury, Wiltshire, England UK6,405 posts
Merriweather: Hi EM - good read
1.Everybody has to compromise...thats true... bit like when you go to work... you dont have to like who you are working with, but you MUST get along...
2.We have unlimited options.... sure do... its how we choose which path is the most intelligent and suitable at the time which defines our characters.
3.We are judgemental.... no... not all of us... I disagree...some of us are just bleeding hearts... and no judgemental.... live and let live ...motto
Girls dont micro- analyze guys either JMO... tis a shared values, a lot of common sense, and interests in common which cause sparks. By the way EM.... now that you have posed these views... which are yours...
Cheers MW
Hi Merri My views.... well I think much of what has been said is applicable to both men aswell as women, and the part about internet dating and actually meeting the person to know whether there is a spark/chemistry, is so true.
Englishman55: I don't think you are being ignorant..... I posted it because I found it interesting and knowing that we would all take something different from it..
Not been picky its usually define as i don't have my own opinion(as most of my friends say) i just see it that im really easy going and been picky to me means insecurity in capabilities and how far can someone go But it would be much easier if someone points mistakes that other person does because usually we cant see them and you cant really take that opinion from everyone unless is someone you really trust and feel close.
p.s.my head seems clear this morning after all that brandy
In response to: Just read this from the Yahoo front page, top news Items and thought it worth posting. Food for thought !
Found it to interesting to read, being from a female perspective, but some of which is also applicable to men. The following paragraphs are taken from the book.... Marry Him - The Case For Settling for Mr Goodenough written by Lorri Gottleib, for women.
Here’s what many single women do that we might want to reconsider:
1. We feel entitled. Gottlieb: “Women try to be good friends to each other. We say, ‘You deserve this, you’re so great! You’re such a good catch! Any man would be lucky!’ [Men don’t say that to each other.] We are good catches, but we also are human and we’re not perfect and somebody’s going to have to put up with us for the rest of his life. And we forget. My dating coach said, write down all the reasons a guy would not want to date you. At first I didn’t think I had that many things, because you think you’re a pretty good catch. He said, what you think of as quirky, endearing, and cute, is really annoying to someone else. But he would love you so much that he would overlook that. And you need to overlook things in him. Everybody has to compromise.”
See our tips: 12 Good Things That Come Out of a Bad Date!
2. We think we have unlimited options. Gottlieb: “You walk into a store and you know you want a sweater and it has to go with this outfit and it has to be this color, and you’d like to be on sale. You find something great, but you wonder if there’s something better out there, so you keep searching. In the end, after three more weeks of searching for the perfect sweater—was it so much better than the one you could have bought originally? Whether it’s with men or sweaters…if you just think you have unlimited options for the rest of your life, of course you’ll keep looking, who wouldn’t?”
3. We’re judgmental. Gottlieb: “The guys I interviewed for the book said women judge them so much. Women gave me 300 reasons they wouldn’t go on a second date with a guy, and men gave 3. When guys are ready for that stage of life, they find someone who is good enough that they’re totally in love with—but that person may not seem to the outside world to be as appealing in superficial ways—maybe she’s not as accomplished or funny as the last girl. Whatever he sees in her, he does. Guys don’t sit and micro-analyze a woman the way a woman would with a man. He knows she’s not as hot as the last girl he dated, but that’s okay. She’s hot enough.”
In response to: Just read this from the Yahoo front page, top news Items and thought it worth posting. Food for thought !
Found it to interesting to read, being from a female perspective, but some of which is also applicable to men. The following paragraphs are taken from the book.... Marry Him - The Case For Settling for Mr Goodenough written by Lorri Gottleib, for women.
Here’s what many single women do that we might want to reconsider:
1. We feel entitled. Gottlieb: “Women try to be good friends to each other. We say, ‘You deserve this, you’re so great! You’re such a good catch! Any man would be lucky!’ [Men don’t say that to each other.] We are good catches, but we also are human and we’re not perfect and somebody’s going to have to put up with us for the rest of his life. And we forget. My dating coach said, write down all the reasons a guy would not want to date you. At first I didn’t think I had that many things, because you think you’re a pretty good catch. He said, what you think of as quirky, endearing, and cute, is really annoying to someone else. But he would love you so much that he would overlook that. And you need to overlook things in him. Everybody has to compromise.”
See our tips: 12 Good Things That Come Out of a Bad Date!
2. We think we have unlimited options. Gottlieb: “You walk into a store and you know you want a sweater and it has to go with this outfit and it has to be this color, and you’d like to be on sale. You find something great, but you wonder if there’s something better out there, so you keep searching. In the end, after three more weeks of searching for the perfect sweater—was it so much better than the one you could have bought originally? Whether it’s with men or sweaters…if you just think you have unlimited options for the rest of your life, of course you’ll keep looking, who wouldn’t?”
3. We’re judgmental. Gottlieb: “The guys I interviewed for the book said women judge them so much. Women gave me 300 reasons they wouldn’t go on a second date with a guy, and men gave 3. When guys are ready for that stage of life, they find someone who is good enough that they’re totally in love with—but that person may not seem to the outside world to be as appealing in superficial ways—maybe she’s not as accomplished or funny as the last girl. Whatever he sees in her, he does. Guys don’t sit and micro-analyze a woman the way a woman would with a man. He knows she’s not as hot as the last girl he dated, but that’s okay. She’s hot enough.”
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Found it to interesting to read, being from a female perspective, but some of which is also applicable to men.
The following paragraphs are taken from the book.... Marry Him - The Case For Settling for Mr Goodenough written by Lorri Gottleib, for women.
Here’s what many single women do that we might want to reconsider:
1. We feel entitled.
Gottlieb: “Women try to be good friends to each other. We say, ‘You deserve this, you’re so great! You’re such a good catch! Any man would be lucky!’ [Men don’t say that to each other.] We are good catches, but we also are human and we’re not perfect and somebody’s going to have to put up with us for the rest of his life. And we forget. My dating coach said, write down all the reasons a guy would not want to date you. At first I didn’t think I had that many things, because you think you’re a pretty good catch. He said, what you think of as quirky, endearing, and cute, is really annoying to someone else. But he would love you so much that he would overlook that. And you need to overlook things in him. Everybody has to compromise.”
See our tips: 12 Good Things That Come Out of a Bad Date!
2. We think we have unlimited options.
Gottlieb: “You walk into a store and you know you want a sweater and it has to go with this outfit and it has to be this color, and you’d like to be on sale. You find something great, but you wonder if there’s something better out there, so you keep searching. In the end, after three more weeks of searching for the perfect sweater—was it so much better than the one you could have bought originally? Whether it’s with men or sweaters…if you just think you have unlimited options for the rest of your life, of course you’ll keep looking, who wouldn’t?”
3. We’re judgmental.
Gottlieb: “The guys I interviewed for the book said women judge them so much. Women gave me 300 reasons they wouldn’t go on a second date with a guy, and men gave 3. When guys are ready for that stage of life, they find someone who is good enough that they’re totally in love with—but that person may not seem to the outside world to be as appealing in superficial ways—maybe she’s not as accomplished or funny as the last girl. Whatever he sees in her, he does. Guys don’t sit and micro-analyze a woman the way a woman would with a man. He knows she’s not as hot as the last girl he dated, but that’s okay. She’s hot enough.”
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