Noahs Ark ( Archived) (292)

ooby_dooby: As a retired engineer I think you'll appreciate this little excersize.

The arc was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high. A cubit is about 18 inches. That works out to 450 feet long by 75 feet wide by 45 feet high. That's 1,518,750 cubic feet displacement. To stand up to the forces of the ocean etc the thickness of the "Gopherwood" hull would have to be a min of 6 inches. This works out to a volume of wood equal to 40,500 cubic feet. Gopherwood is closely similar to Cyprus which weighs about 30 lbs per cubic foot for a total weight of wood of 1,214,970 pounds or 607 tons of cut, shaped and fitted wood. How long would it take a big strong man to cut down a Cyprus tree (they grow in a swamp remember) trim the branches haul it to the construction site, shape it into timber suitable for the hull of a ship? Also, as he/they felled trees closest to the build site (using stone axe's remember because this was before the bronze age, no chain saws or even steel) they had to haul the logs from farther and farther away.

A man would be lucky to drop a cyprus tree by chopping at it with a stone axe all day. What shape would he be in to repeat this process the next day and the next several thousand times and that's just gathering enough wood to build a ship that size. It would take over 3 years of back breaking work 7 days a week to assemble that much wood. Forget about the actual building of the ship which would have been beyond Noah and his familys ability. This doesn't even touch on the wood needed for the internal structure of the ship, stalls, decks, food bunkers, etc. Did the ship have a roof or did all the animals just get soaking wet for 40 days and nights?
I could go on & on & on proving by simple logic and math that the story of Noahs Arc is totally false, a myth.

RillyNiceGuy: If creation (about six thousand years ago) took place as it is said in the Bible, then the people and the animals had not yet covered the face of the global Earth.
The people's were in a small area and so were (samples of) the animals of the Earth(land).
After the flood and the ship landed, just as people's are varied today from only those small few people......so with animals.
Look at the birds called Budgies.....all of the colors we see today and varities are from inbreeding within a short time (about 100 years) from the wild green. This COULD account for BY the same reason there are many types of many animals today.

The beginning of people and animals was local and the flood could have been global or local....if local then the animals (samples of) of the Earth(land) could have been fewer than we know or understand. Local flood, local people, local animals could have made it possible as well. Both ideas are possible.

To those who are not read.....your remarks will be unsound until you study the subject deeply and understand things beyond the scope of time here.

RillyNiceGuy: God is making a short work of seven thousand years. Each thousand years is as a day and a day is as a thousand years. From Adam until the end of the thousand year rein of Christ is a week of days. (one thousand years each.) When the term latter days and end of days is used it means the latter days of that prophetic week....not the end of all 24 hour days as some think is the end of the world. If one knows this, one can see the time of the death of Christ was in its proper day of that week the same as that of the pascal lamb of Passover and from that time....we are now ending the latter day before the coming of the Sabbath rest of Christs rein. We are at the end of a day and most of us will see or our children will see the return of Christ. Those of his shall enter into his rest....the seventh day as was always and not the first.(Sunday) Much more is understood from the knowing that a day is as a thousand years of that week of days. Count the days to the return of Christ. if you do not know when Christ paid our debt.....look at passover and the Pascal lamb....which he was for us.....the lamb of God.

I hope this opens understanding for those called.

EliteOne: Talking about not knowing your own thoughts? A while back your six day creation happened over 6000 years? In the 6000 thousand years since the creation, nations upon nation have been whipped out along with animal spice upon animal specie and now you are saying there was not enough animals on this earth in a 6000 year creation. Get a grip on your analogies. Rabbits alone multiply at such a fast rate something like 5 squared X 7 squared per year.. Even in slower breading animals like Elephants, lets take a mathematical tour 7 squared X 6000 = 294,000 and that is only form one pair not including another couple of thousand years since the creation to Noahs flood I’m pretty sure that more atheists could and would present more convincing arguments for the bible if the roll was reversed then any Christian! Because, we actually spent time analysing the value and the authenticity the bible holds.

steve6610: great post mate , the biggest problem I find is that a lot of fellow christians literally take what is written as fact. like the creation in 6 days, the flood, etc.... instead of looking at the big picture.

the other fave of mine is they always say there is a heaven , but if they actually go by what they read it says Heavans & Earth , which is more than 1