Justice in UK (40)
Steve5721: It wasn't just the Daily Mail, it was on the ITV news too..and the local news.
Of course it was.
Like when NY was blasted with snow in February, there were reports that screamed 'New York hit by snow storms'
We had some wind, some snow and it was gone in a day.
Frankly, I am not in the least bit concerned about her sentence, but the reaction here is laughable. The horror of a poor old woman being tagged. And dear oh lord, she cannot look after her grandchildren because of her curfew. The woman broke the law, hence my point had she sold alcohol to a minor, the press, message boards would have been up in arms about what she did.
But she only sold a goldfish, is what I am reading. When as a pet shop owner, she should have been versed on the law regarding selling animals to minors.
Basically, because it is seen as a minor crime, then there is outcry at the punishment.
Now am I being understood?
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Jaywim: Of course it was.
But she only sold a goldfish, is what I am reading. When as a pet shop owner, she should have been versed on the law regarding selling animals to minors.
Basically, because it is seen as a minor crime, then there is outcry at the punishment.
Now am I being understood?
But she only sold a goldfish, is what I am reading. When as a pet shop owner, she should have been versed on the law regarding selling animals to minors.
Basically, because it is seen as a minor crime, then there is outcry at the punishment.
Now am I being understood?
Yes you are...even though a goldfish is not an animal..but that is a minor point.
You have to understand that in the UK we have burglars, robbers, muggers, car thieves etc etc...who get nothing but a slap on the wrists...the punishment does not fit the crime in this instance.
Am I being understood?
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Steve5721: Yes you are...even though a goldfish is not an animal..but that is a minor point.
You have to understand that in the UK we have burglars, robbers, muggers, car thieves etc etc...who get nothing but a slap on the wrists...the punishment does not fit the crime in this instance.
Am I being understood?
You have to understand that in the UK we have burglars, robbers, muggers, car thieves etc etc...who get nothing but a slap on the wrists...the punishment does not fit the crime in this instance.
Am I being understood?
Oh I do understand. I am a Brit.
I understand about the British Justice System.
You are being understood, in that it takes a crime such as this, for people to be up in arms about their justice systems.
Not one person has anything good to say about the UK justice system, it has it flaws like any other system.
And judges make decisions based on reports, not just for the fun of it.
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Steve5721: Yes you are...even though a goldfish is not an animal..but that is a minor point.
You have to understand that in the UK we have burglars, robbers, muggers, car thieves etc etc...who get nothing but a slap on the wrists...the punishment does not fit the crime in this instance.
Am I being understood?
I got you loud and clear....You have to understand that in the UK we have burglars, robbers, muggers, car thieves etc etc...who get nothing but a slap on the wrists...the punishment does not fit the crime in this instance.
Am I being understood?
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We have a choice but any other living creature does not have that priviledge. The sentences in this case (provided in the link)were way to lenient.
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Veritaas: We have a choice but any other living creature does not have that priviledge. The sentences in this case (provided in the link)were way to lenient.
I think they might have some 'inside' justice. Prisoners don't take too kindly to paedo's, crimes against old people and animals.
My nephew is a prison officer at Wandsworth...I get some interesting stories.
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Jaywim: Had the poor old woman sold alcohol to a 14 year old, then the response would not have been so sympathetic.
And of course, people are outraged at the electronic tagging of this poor old woman.
There is a law in place for a reason, not selling pets to children, she did. Therefore, the punishment fits the crime.
Comparing her crime to more serious crimes is not really valid, because of course, we would all want a 'real criminal' to have a harsh sentence.
People have a criminal record when they break the law. That means any law that is in place, selling pets to minors is against the law.
Not to mention it is in the Daily Mail.
And of course, people are outraged at the electronic tagging of this poor old woman.
There is a law in place for a reason, not selling pets to children, she did. Therefore, the punishment fits the crime.
Comparing her crime to more serious crimes is not really valid, because of course, we would all want a 'real criminal' to have a harsh sentence.
People have a criminal record when they break the law. That means any law that is in place, selling pets to minors is against the law.
Not to mention it is in the Daily Mail.
never blow up frogs jaywim?
i can think of a lot worse things kids could get up to apart from buying pets!
the laws the law? must be a copper, no photo person!
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Jaywim: In don't think it was over the top.
Then you and I will be to differ..and I have a feeling that there will be many others who will beg to differ with you my friend.
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Steve5721: Then you and I will be to differ..and I have a feeling that there will be many others who will beg to differ with you my friend.
Oh well, I shan't be crying about people disagreeing with me. I work in a setting where people disagree with myself and my colleagues and we all survive.
I'll cope.
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Allways makes me laugh how some prisoners think they are better than other to dish out there own punishments.
They are all in there for the same reason cus they been very naughty boys
They are all in there for the same reason cus they been very naughty boys
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jimmyl: never blow up frogs jaywim?
i can think of a lot worse things kids could get up to apart from buying pets!
the laws the law? must be a copper, no photo person!
i can think of a lot worse things kids could get up to apart from buying pets!
the laws the law? must be a copper, no photo person!
The fish is not my point, Jimmy.
It is the fact that so many people are up in arms, complain about the British justice system and then complain when a person is punished harshly.
No and not a copper and I wondered how long it would be before a person would mention the lack of photo. Which I believe is not against the rules. Unless things have changed here over the last couple of years.
Nice to meet you Jimmy.
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chunkypie: Allways makes me laugh how some prisoners think they are better than other to dish out there own punishments.
They are all in there for the same reason cus they been very naughty boys
They are all in there for the same reason cus they been very naughty boys
I like this.
I agree, there is a sort of irony about it. Maybe they think that it makes them feel better about their own crimes?
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bob1959: Pat, do you remember years ago the was an American youth in Singapore I think convicted of spray painting cars. He was sentenced to be caned. He was caned .......and i never heard about him spray painting cars again.
ah. You remember Michael. Even the President of the US of A appealed on his behalf. He got 4 instead of 6 lashes. Heard he hit his father (or step-father) when he returned to America.
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elsson: Which reminds me Ian Huntley is sueing the government for not protecting him enough in prison when his throat was cut.. If he get compo then this country has fallen to PC brigade forever.
That is just insulting especially to the families of the children that are no longer with us. But somehow I just dont think he will, too controversial and will undoubtedly anger many many people around the country. Tax payers money going to a criminal of the most dispicable kind.
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Veritaas: That is just insulting especially to the families of the children that are no longer with us. But somehow I just dont think he will, too controversial and will undoubtedly anger many many people around the country. Tax payers money going to a criminal of the most dispicable kind.
Well here's hoping you are right
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elsson: An old ladies justice, read the article if got time read the storyHer offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous
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bob1959: Can't post negatively about another counties justice system without being a hypocrite. Ours (US)
I can because im from there and thats one of the million reasons
I am not there any more
Its sad but I cant save the world I am only me
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Analie: At least Pugh's cartoon was funny.
Im glad the days of transportation are gone. Wouldn't want any of those hardened criminals down here.
Im glad the days of transportation are gone. Wouldn't want any of those hardened criminals down here.
Are you sure??
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Clearly not the same planet as you, as you were not reading what was written.
It wasn't just the Daily Mail, it was on the ITV news too..and the local news.