Justice in UK (40)
elsson: An old ladies justice, read the article if got time read the storyHer offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
I remember the law chasing a greengrocer for ages 'cos he sold his Bananas in pounds not kilos...... but can they stop the real criminals....... Nope...... Youths have Multi offences for TDA as the police class it Car theft I call It amounting to tens of thousands and are still running around free....At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
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In response to: An old ladies justice, read the article if got time read the storyHer offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
Bloody ridiculous, and extreme not to say the least. The Judicial system here sure knows how to dish out justice alright! The fine I can go along with, but not being placed under curfew or being tagged, how the hell did the judge come up with that.!
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patmac: I remember the law chasing a greengrocer for ages 'cos he sold his Bananas in pounds not kilos...... but can they stop the real criminals....... Nope...... Youths have Multi offences for TDA as the police class it Car theft I call It amounting to tens of thousands and are still running around free....
Pat, do you remember years ago the was an American youth in Singapore I think convicted of spray painting cars. He was sentenced to be caned. He was caned .......and i never heard about him spray painting cars again.
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bob1959: Can't post negatively about another counties justice system without being a hypocrite. Ours (US)
Probably have some strange cases of justice there as well Bob
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elsson: Probably have some strange cases of justice there as well Bob
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bob1959: Pat, do you remember years ago the was an American youth in Singapore I think convicted of spray painting cars. He was sentenced to be caned. He was caned .......and i never heard about him spray painting cars again.
Yep we used to have a punishment in the UK using a Birch branch..... most of the ones who got it never reoffended..... only recently banned in the Isle of Man..... a UK area between Ireland and England..... I do remember the outcry about the young American lad .... He still got caned though..... Singapore even banned Chewing Gum ....... And still enforce it....
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patmac: Yep we used to have a punishment in the UK using a Birch branch..... most of the ones who got it never reoffended..... only recently banned in the Isle of Man..... a UK area between Ireland and England..... I do remember the outcry about the young American lad .... He still got caned though..... Singapore even banned Chewing Gum ....... And still enforce it....
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elsson: An old ladies justice, read the article if got time read the storyHer offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
Kind of reminds me LAPD Couldn't catch a real criminal to save their buttocks, but they got Zaza Gabor for slapping a cop. I assume the cop she smacked was the arresting officer.
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what!? All that for selling a goldfish to a kid.
Stupid Planet!
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There is a little more to this though. She had a parrot that was in pain with a broken leg and the vet had to put it down. I believe she has been in trouble before for animal cruelty.
HOWEVER, to tag a 66 year old woman for this is unreal.
HOWEVER, to tag a 66 year old woman for this is unreal.
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In response to: An old ladies justice, read the article if got time read the storyHer offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
Petty is what I call this.....and the judge who handed the sentence down ought to be.........well I wont say but you get the jist.....as for the police force well that's a whole can of worms....
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elsson: An old ladies justice, read the article if got time read the storyHer offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
But what about the Goldfish, who has custody? Goldfish have rights too, dont tell me the it has been tagged as well.
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elsson: An old ladies justice, read the article if got time read the storyHer offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
Just read it..At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months. Read more:
She deserved all she got and more
It's a blessing in disguise the suffering cockatiel was found and put out of it's pain because of her greed at the goldfish sale
I can't understand why her son wasn't for sale in the pet shop. I mean, he looks like a pig
Animal cruelty and neglect should always be dealt with accordingly.
Great verdict
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Had the poor old woman sold alcohol to a 14 year old, then the response would not have been so sympathetic.
And of course, people are outraged at the electronic tagging of this poor old woman.
There is a law in place for a reason, not selling pets to children, she did. Therefore, the punishment fits the crime.
Comparing her crime to more serious crimes is not really valid, because of course, we would all want a 'real criminal' to have a harsh sentence.
People have a criminal record when they break the law. That means any law that is in place, selling pets to minors is against the law.
Not to mention it is in the Daily Mail.
And of course, people are outraged at the electronic tagging of this poor old woman.
There is a law in place for a reason, not selling pets to children, she did. Therefore, the punishment fits the crime.
Comparing her crime to more serious crimes is not really valid, because of course, we would all want a 'real criminal' to have a harsh sentence.
People have a criminal record when they break the law. That means any law that is in place, selling pets to minors is against the law.
Not to mention it is in the Daily Mail.
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Steve5721: There is a little more to this though. She had a parrot that was in pain with a broken leg and the vet had to put it down. I believe she has been in trouble before for animal cruelty.
HOWEVER, to tag a 66 year old woman for this is unreal.
HOWEVER, to tag a 66 year old woman for this is unreal.
I got that out of it too. Hi Steve.
There was something on the bottom of the article that suggested that she ignored repeat warnings from the council too.....
Newspapers usually sensationalise one side of a story to sell papers........
I don't believe anything I read in them.
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GingerBe: I got that out of it too. Hi Steve.
There was something on the bottom of the article that suggested that she ignored repeat warnings from the council too.....
Newspapers usually sensationalise one side of a story to sell papers........
I don't believe anything I read in them.
True enough G but it is using a sledge hammer to crack a nutThere was something on the bottom of the article that suggested that she ignored repeat warnings from the council too.....
Newspapers usually sensationalise one side of a story to sell papers........
I don't believe anything I read in them.
A lad who lives not far from me has just been tagged for the first time. His record is phenominal stolen in excess of 20 cars ooops sorry not stolen, TAKEN WITHOUT DRIVERS CONSENT I say stolen cost in excess of £150,000 and he gets his first TAG....... He has numerous other offences and none of his folks work can't remember any of them working.....Sorry I digress, He has been looked after by social workers since he left home at 16 moved into a brand new home he's 18 now and no neighbour has stayed longer than 6 months due to his and his friends shenanigans........ Believe it or not his social worker has lodged an appeal as he has only offended twice as an "ADULT" and the sentance is too harsh..........Are we nuts or what.........
PS never had a problem with the lad......3 of my nephews paid him a friendly visit and taught him a wee old fashioned Glasgow remedy for toerags, never comes near our street......wonder why
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patmac: True enough G but it is using a sledge hammer to crack a nut
A lad who lives not far from me has just been tagged for the first time. His record is phenominal stolen in excess of 20 cars ooops sorry not stolen, TAKEN WITHOUT DRIVERS CONSENT I say stolen cost in excess of £150,000 and he gets his first TAG....... He has numerous other offences and none of his folks work can't remember any of them working.....Sorry I digress, He has been looked after by social workers since he left home at 16 moved into a brand new home he's 18 now and no neighbour has stayed longer than 6 months due to his and his friends shenanigans........ Believe it or not his social worker has lodged an appeal as he has only offended twice as an "ADULT" and the sentance is too harsh..........Are we nuts or what.........
PS never had a problem with the lad......3 of my nephews paid him a friendly visit and taught him a wee old fashioned Glasgow remedy for toerags, never comes near our street......wonder why
A lad who lives not far from me has just been tagged for the first time. His record is phenominal stolen in excess of 20 cars ooops sorry not stolen, TAKEN WITHOUT DRIVERS CONSENT I say stolen cost in excess of £150,000 and he gets his first TAG....... He has numerous other offences and none of his folks work can't remember any of them working.....Sorry I digress, He has been looked after by social workers since he left home at 16 moved into a brand new home he's 18 now and no neighbour has stayed longer than 6 months due to his and his friends shenanigans........ Believe it or not his social worker has lodged an appeal as he has only offended twice as an "ADULT" and the sentance is too harsh..........Are we nuts or what.........
PS never had a problem with the lad......3 of my nephews paid him a friendly visit and taught him a wee old fashioned Glasgow remedy for toerags, never comes near our street......wonder why
Pat you certainly have some nice friendly nephews i must admit. You must give the reciepe for the Glaswegian remedy.
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Jaywim: Had the poor old woman sold alcohol to a 14 year old, then the response would not have been so sympathetic.
And of course, people are outraged at the electronic tagging of this poor old woman.
There is a law in place for a reason, not selling pets to children, she did. Therefore, the punishment fits the crime.
Comparing her crime to more serious crimes is not really valid, because of course, we would all want a 'real criminal' to have a harsh sentence.
People have a criminal record when they break the law. That means any law that is in place, selling pets to minors is against the law.
Not to mention it is in the Daily Mail.
And of course, people are outraged at the electronic tagging of this poor old woman.
There is a law in place for a reason, not selling pets to children, she did. Therefore, the punishment fits the crime.
Comparing her crime to more serious crimes is not really valid, because of course, we would all want a 'real criminal' to have a harsh sentence.
People have a criminal record when they break the law. That means any law that is in place, selling pets to minors is against the law.
Not to mention it is in the Daily Mail.
Oi wot planet do you live on? If she had sold booze to a 14 year old, she would have got the slapped wrist and kicked out of the court and told to be more careful.
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gussi: Oi wot planet do you live on? If she had sold booze to a 14 year old, she would have got the slapped wrist and kicked out of the court and told to be more careful.
I am and was talking about the response here, not of the judge.
Clearly not the same planet as you, as you were not reading what was written.
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Her offence was to unwittingly sell a goldfish to a 14-year-old boy taking part in a trading standards 'sting'.
At most, pet shop owner Joan Higgins, 66, expected a slap on the wrist for breaking new animal welfare laws which ban the sale of pets to under-16s.
Instead, the great-grandmother was taken to court, fined £1,000, placed under curfew - and ordered to wear an electronic tag for two months.
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