jodestirOPNowhere Else, South Australia Australia166 posts
Non-existent. Pure fabrication. A four letter word frequently misrepresented & misunderstood. A word that should be banished entirely & replaced with it's more authentic counterpart. L-U-S-T. Yes. There lies the truth. And as everyone knows ... once THAT's left the building, it's all over rover. How many of you out there seek this fairytale, this myth of happily ever afters? Have u learnt nothing? Look in the rear vision mirror, the divorce .. the financial ruin ... the broken dreams ... Trust me, nothing will change the NEXT time around. U will visit that same place .. eventually .. just with someone else. Agree? Disagree? Hmmmmm ..... ANy1 got any opinions out there? .. come on, i know for a fact, this place is drowning in divorceees..... ?
Can't say I agree. I look at my Dad and his ladyfriend (as he calls her); they've been together happily 31 years now, longer than my folks were married. And since they're past 80 now it's a fair bet that only death will them part. I'd say they love each other. I'd just as soon not speculate about L-U-S-T though.
My parents got married in 1965... they are happier today than when I was little. And since we (five) kids are long since grown and out of the house, now they even WORK together...
It amazes me that two people can be together that much and love it!
annie_nswCoffs Harbour, New South Wales Australia528 posts
jodestir: Non-existent. Pure fabrication. A four letter word frequently misrepresented & misunderstood. A word that should be banished entirely & replaced with it's more authentic counterpart. L-U-S-T. Yes. There lies the truth. And as everyone knows ... once THAT's left the building, it's all over rover. How many of you out there seek this fairytale, this myth of happily ever afters? Have u learnt nothing? Look in the rear vision mirror, the divorce .. the financial ruin ... the broken dreams ... Trust me, nothing will change the NEXT time around. U will visit that same place .. eventually .. just with someone else. Agree? Disagree? Hmmmmm ..... ANy1 got any opinions out there? .. come on, i know for a fact, this place is drowning in divorceees..... ?
Disagree..I think first one would need to decipher what ones interpretation of love is:For me Love is an Invisible, Intelligent Cosmic Vibrational Energy that Shifts Human Consciousness to a higher level, it is the only truely healing energy there is and without it there can be no growth which is why we sometimes attract the situations we do.And sometimes it may be for the other persons growth more so than our own. People make the mistake of going out and looking for love rather than finding it within themselves first and then seeking someone to share it with. There is a difference between lust and love as we all know but sometimes lust is what brings 2 people together in order for there to be love.I live by the rule no expectations no disapointments and I always take responsibility for my thoughts and actions. I also dont believe that all relationships are meant to last forever and that with every closing door another opens. Be very clear about what it is you want to attract as thoughts are also energy that send out vibrational waves to the universe.Namaste
annie_nsw: Disagree..I think first one would need to decipher what ones interpretation of love is:For me Love is an Invisible, Intelligent Cosmic Vibrational Energy that Shifts Human Consciousness to a higher level, it is the only truely healing energy there is and without it there can be no growth which is why we sometimes attract the situations we do.And sometimes it may be for the other persons growth more so than our own. People make the mistake of going out and looking for love rather than finding it within themselves first and then seeking someone to share it with. There is a difference between lust and love as we all know but sometimes lust is what brings 2 people together in order for there to be love.I live by the rule no expectations no disapointments and I always take responsibility for my thoughts and actions. I also dont believe that all relationships are meant to last forever and that with every closing door another opens. Be very clear about what it is you want to attract as thoughts are also energy that send out vibrational waves to the universe.Namaste
Holy Cow, Annie, we could be sisters! I feel the same way. The word love has been used when lust would be more accurate, and therein may lies the confusion. Have you read any of the David Deida books or seen his youtube vids? He is all about this third level love of which you speak. Wonderful stuff!
jodestir: Non-existent. Pure fabrication. A four letter word frequently misrepresented & misunderstood. A word that should be banished entirely & replaced with it's more authentic counterpart. L-U-S-T. Yes. There lies the truth. And as everyone knows ... once THAT's left the building, it's all over rover. How many of you out there seek this fairytale, this myth of happily ever afters? Have u learnt nothing? Look in the rear vision mirror, the divorce .. the financial ruin ... the broken dreams ... Trust me, nothing will change the NEXT time around. U will visit that same place .. eventually .. just with someone else. Agree? Disagree? Hmmmmm ..... ANy1 got any opinions out there? .. come on, i know for a fact, this place is drowning in divorceees..... ?
I believe you just like to play "Devils advocate" stir things up a little Of course love exists, as does lust, but it is those who place lust as more important who end up loosing the love. Maybe you are that kind of person. I know many who are, but I also know many more who realise that Love, true love, can and does last a lifetime, my parents have been married over 65 years, they show and feel love for each other, even though life is now not so easy for them. Such negativity that you post is not attractive, certainly not to me anyway and I would imagine I am not alone in thinking this, being and having a positive outlook on life is something most people find very attractive, Attraction + Affection = LOVE.
venusenvy: I dont think its non-existant...just rare
YOU are absolutly wrong ,my dear friend!!!! It is not rare! It is very normal n common, just keep in mind, What u give to others? Will get same in re-turn.. Love is Life! Without love , i can't imagine a Life!
jodestirOPNowhere Else, South Australia Australia166 posts
LOVE EVERLASTING?
Happily ever after? I think not ... there are a million different scenarios as to why 2 people chose to stay together ... circumstances, financial reasons, children, fear of being labelled a *failure*, religion (divorce NOT being an option) ... the public assumption in these instances are: *they are still in LOVE ... Aaaah .. and they said it wouldn't last* ... In many cases, what goes on behind closed doors is a totally different ball game. A lot of people live a lie. Live in the life they have, as they have no avenue of escape. Trapped. Those of us brave enough to leave, look back today, not in anger, not in hatred, not with resentment/bitterness, not with a wounded/bleeding heart .. but with a rock solid, strong lesson learnt & a much wiser, *eyes-wide-open* to future male:female entanglements ...
annie_nswCoffs Harbour, New South Wales Australia528 posts
Venusruled: Holy Cow, Annie, we could be sisters! I feel the same way. The word love has been used when lust would be more accurate, and therein may lies the confusion. Have you read any of the David Deida books or seen his youtube vids? He is all about this third level love of which you speak. Wonderful stuff!
Thank You Venus and no I havent. I may just check him out, thanks for the lead.
annie_nswCoffs Harbour, New South Wales Australia528 posts
jodestir: LOVE EVERLASTING?
Happily ever after? I think not ... there are a million different scenarios as to why 2 people chose to stay together ... circumstances, financial reasons, children, fear of being labelled a *failure*, religion (divorce NOT being an option) ... the public assumption in these instances are: *they are still in LOVE ... Aaaah .. and they said it wouldn't last* ... In many cases, what goes on behind closed doors is a totally different ball game. A lot of people live a lie. Live in the life they have, as they have no avenue of escape. Trapped. Those of us brave enough to leave, look back today, not in anger, not in hatred, not with resentment/bitterness, not with a wounded/bleeding heart .. but with a rock solid, strong lesson learnt & a much wiser, *eyes-wide-open* to future male:female entanglements ...
Love is everlasting and apart from memories we get to take it with us when we leave this life. Yes there are alot of liers out there who put on false fronts regardless of the fact that their relationships are in tatters but then again whats tatters to others may not be for them. Is anything that black and white? Is anyone ever truely trapped in this day and age.Sometimes when people find themselves trapped it gives them the opportunity to question what it is they truely want.One of the biggest contributing factors for these people is fear and it can be crippling unless it is embraced and that takes alot of courage and faith just as it does to step out into the unknown but it can be done. Endeavour not to look back but more so to reflect back,look to the future whilst living in the moment and be true to ones self.
annie_nswCoffs Harbour, New South Wales Australia528 posts
jodestir: LOVE EVERLASTING?
Happily ever after? I think not ... there are a million different scenarios as to why 2 people chose to stay together ... circumstances, financial reasons, children, fear of being labelled a *failure*, religion (divorce NOT being an option) ... the public assumption in these instances are: *they are still in LOVE ... Aaaah .. and they said it wouldn't last* ... In many cases, what goes on behind closed doors is a totally different ball game. A lot of people live a lie. Live in the life they have, as they have no avenue of escape. Trapped. Those of us brave enough to leave, look back today, not in anger, not in hatred, not with resentment/bitterness, not with a wounded/bleeding heart .. but with a rock solid, strong lesson learnt & a much wiser, *eyes-wide-open* to future male:female entanglements ...
Love is everlasting and apart from memories we get to take it with us when we leave this life. Yes there are alot out there who put on false fronts regardless of the fact that their relationships are in tatters but then again whats tatters to others may not be for them. Is anything that black and white? Is anyone ever truely trapped in this day and age.Sometimes when people find themselves trapped it gives them the opportunity to question what it is they truely want.One of the biggest contributing factors for these people is fear and it can be crippling unless it is embraced and that takes alot of courage and faith just as it does to step out into the unknown but it can be done. Endeavour not to look back but more so to reflect back,look to the future whilst living in the moment and be true to ones self.
Costapacketparis, Centre-Val de Loire France2,182 posts
jodestir: Non-existent. Pure fabrication. A four letter word frequently misrepresented & misunderstood. A word that should be banished entirely & replaced with it's more authentic counterpart. L-U-S-T. Yes. There lies the truth. And as everyone knows ... once THAT's left the building, it's all over rover. How many of you out there seek this fairytale, this myth of happily ever afters? Have u learnt nothing? Look in the rear vision mirror, the divorce .. the financial ruin ... the broken dreams ... Trust me, nothing will change the NEXT time around. U will visit that same place .. eventually .. just with someone else. Agree? Disagree? Hmmmmm ..... ANy1 got any opinions out there? .. come on, i know for a fact, this place is drowning in divorceees..... ?
I think after life's disappointment we can be shaped into this cynical way of thinking, its a self defence mechanism.
Being in love is the best thing ever, in my opinion, the down side is if it goes wrong, all the pain involved. Ahhh I havent given up on love yet but have come close.
Angelo9: Despite my own life experiences, I've remained a romantic. It appears that people may view this trait as somewhat weak, naive or gullible. To go through life with bitterness and resentments serves no purpose except to make me unhappy, and sabotage chances of future happiness by being suspicious of everyone's motives. I don't suffer fools gladly, but foolishness has many meanings, one of which is fun and playfulness with the right person.
jodestir: LOVE EVERLASTING? A lot of people live a lie. Live in the life they have, as they have no avenue of escape. Trapped. Those of us brave enough to leave, look back today, not in anger, not in hatred, not with resentment/bitterness, not with a wounded/bleeding heart .. but with a rock solid, strong lesson learnt & a much wiser, *eyes-wide-open* to future male:female entanglements ...
To quote Mark Twain
We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it and stop there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again, and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore.
I think you sat on a hot stove-lid for far too long...
Without humour, life becomes tedious; Without love, life becomes pointless
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