why people attack muslim heroes or prophet??????? (465)
bjk68: And you know this how? were you there? These are mans interpretations, ideas and opinions. Do those rules also include " thou shall not kill in my name, or at all.
In christianity it was believed that the earth was the center of everything, and that it was flat... untill it was disproved.. Now, these were GOD'S words too but they were WRONG
In christianity it was believed that the earth was the center of everything, and that it was flat... untill it was disproved.. Now, these were GOD'S words too but they were WRONG
The Quran did mention the world is spherical. Even when the christians claimed it was flat.
Haven't u read, where it says in the Holy Quran, to kill one innocent person, is like killing all humanity?
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whaaat: which quotes?
The ones you mentioned above lol....pages 15 or 16.
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whaaat: Good point all the major 3 religion have the same God.
But that does not make a god exist. I put it to you that you believe because your parents believed.... mainly the same reason most people have religion as children.... However many grow up and explore for the truth
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whaaat: The conditions are:
U have to be fair to all of them. (eg. if u buy one a dress, u should buy the other too. If u get one a villa, the other one should get the same etc.
U should love them equally, and with respect. As the prophet said, the best among u is the one who is best to his wife.
U have to be fair to all of them. (eg. if u buy one a dress, u should buy the other too. If u get one a villa, the other one should get the same etc.
U should love them equally, and with respect. As the prophet said, the best among u is the one who is best to his wife.
Okay...thanks for the explanation...appreciated.
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bodleing: What have Man u got to do with this whaaat?
iam refering to his muscularity
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whaaat: iam refering to his muscularity
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Steve5721: This?
ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)
O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred... (8:65)
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)
And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)
When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)
And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM (8:71)
FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM. (9:14)
FIGHT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, NOR FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF TRUTH, OUT OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOOK [Christians and Jews], until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and THEY ARE IN A STATE OF SUBJECTION. (9:29)
I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)
And that you should judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious of them, lest they seduce you from part of what Allah has revealed to you; but if they turn back, then know that Allah desires to afflict them on account of some of their faults; and most surely many of the people are transgressors. Is it then the judgment of the times of ignorance that they desire: and who is better than Allah to judge for a people who are sure? O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE. (5:49-51)
The punishment of those who pit themselves against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, except those who repent before you have them in your power (5:33-34)
ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)
O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred... (8:65)
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)
And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)
When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)
And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM (8:71)
FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM. (9:14)
FIGHT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, NOR FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF TRUTH, OUT OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOOK [Christians and Jews], until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and THEY ARE IN A STATE OF SUBJECTION. (9:29)
I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)
And that you should judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious of them, lest they seduce you from part of what Allah has revealed to you; but if they turn back, then know that Allah desires to afflict them on account of some of their faults; and most surely many of the people are transgressors. Is it then the judgment of the times of ignorance that they desire: and who is better than Allah to judge for a people who are sure? O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE. (5:49-51)
The punishment of those who pit themselves against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, except those who repent before you have them in your power (5:33-34)
ooohh these are the quotes u are refering too! ok will get back to u on that. in a few, got to eat.
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Steve5721: Any answer to this serious question?
wait a second please, i will answer that
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whaaat: ooohh these are the quotes u are refering too! ok will get back to u on that. in a few, got to eat.
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whaaat: The Quran did mention the world is spherical. Even when the christians claimed it was flat.
Haven't u read, where it says in the Holy Quran, to kill one innocent person, is like killing all humanity?
Haven't u read, where it says in the Holy Quran, to kill one innocent person, is like killing all humanity?
The quran is what...1400 years old?
The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384-322 BC) argued in his writings that the Earth was spherical, because of the circular shadow it cast on the Moon, during a lunar eclipse. Another reason was that some stars visible from Egypt are not seen further north.
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whaaat: have u read why he had those wives?
your mixing things here buddy.
she was six when proposed and lived with him when she was 9 yearls old. and not seven.
I said some sources claim 11 wifes,-Khadija,Aisha,Umm Habiba,Hafsa,Umm Salama,-as we know for sure...Raihana...Mariya,(not married)...True,-Aisha was born 613/614,-and married Mohammed 619,-3 yrs on,-the marriage was "complete"...so to speak...your mixing things here buddy.
she was six when proposed and lived with him when she was 9 yearls old. and not seven.
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bjk68: But that does not make a god exist. I put it to you that you believe because your parents believed.... mainly the same reason most people have religion as children.... However many grow up and explore for the truth
Yes your right some just believe, cause thats how they were brought up. but there are some who decline to take it as it is, when are grown and have their own responsibility to ask and find out.
When a man in the desert 1400 year back, when the science of astronomy was still primitive, says that the universe is expanding. That man to me, holds great value.
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whaaat: ooohh these are the quotes u are refering too! ok will get back to u on that. in a few, got to eat.
No rush!
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SHAHIDKHAN: The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures, whether it be the Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives. According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.
As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:
"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."
By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females.
During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.
Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.
Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.
In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.
Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.
There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.
As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:
"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."
By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females.
During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.
Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.
Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.
In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.
Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.
There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.
Lol. So a woman must get married to whoever, just for the sake of being married. It doesn't matter if she wants to share her man with any other woman or not. She should rather be one man's property than independant.
As for a woman being public property, how come divorce is allowed for Muslims? Doesn't the woman once divorced become public property? Why do you feel the need to call a woman someone's property? Isn't such thing as independence known in Islam?
Should I understand that you are a virgin and you are going to marry as one? Otherwise, since you are so pure, how could you do that to women and make them "public property"?
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i bet them two r talking right now
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Steve5721: The quran is what...1400 years old?
The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384-322 BC) argued in his writings that the Earth was spherical, because of the circular shadow it cast on the Moon, during a lunar eclipse. Another reason was that some stars visible from Egypt are not seen further north.
The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384-322 BC) argued in his writings that the Earth was spherical, because of the circular shadow it cast on the Moon, during a lunar eclipse. Another reason was that some stars visible from Egypt are not seen further north.
no buddy it wasn't by aristotle
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SHAHIDKHAN: no buddy it wasn't by aristotle
It wasn't? Who then?
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Liebe2: Lol. So a woman must get married to whoever, just for the sake of being married. It doesn't matter if she wants to share her man with any other woman or not. She should rather be one man's property than independant.
As for a woman being public property, how come divorce is allowed for Muslims? Doesn't the woman once divorced become public property? Why do you feel the need to call a woman someone's property? Isn't such thing as independence known in Islam?
Should I understand that you are a virgin and you are going to marry as one? Otherwise, since you are so pure, how could you do that to women and make them "public property"?
As for a woman being public property, how come divorce is allowed for Muslims? Doesn't the woman once divorced become public property? Why do you feel the need to call a woman someone's property? Isn't such thing as independence known in Islam?
Should I understand that you are a virgin and you are going to marry as one? Otherwise, since you are so pure, how could you do that to women and make them "public property"?
there she goes
be honest and think rational. do u really think therez other options too? i would love too see that. anyway the whole discussion was why a man can marry four women. dont think about me who i am and wht i do etc etc. yes there are some good conditions and yea divorce is allowed in islam, but it is not appreciated.
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SHAHIDKHAN: there she goes
be honest and think rational. do u really think therez other options too? i would love too see that. anyway the whole discussion was why a man can marry four women. dont think about me who i am and wht i do etc etc. yes there are some good conditions and yea divorce is allowed in islam, but it is not appreciated.
be honest and think rational. do u really think therez other options too? i would love too see that. anyway the whole discussion was why a man can marry four women. dont think about me who i am and wht i do etc etc. yes there are some good conditions and yea divorce is allowed in islam, but it is not appreciated.
Lol. So you are not pure after all, since you do not follow your religious teachings to the letter.
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So, has bjk68 'suggested' it is a privilege of the man only.
What's the condition by the way? (serious question)
The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures, whether it be the Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives. According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.
As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:
"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."
By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females.
During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.
Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.
Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.
In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.
Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.
There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.