theduke1980Brighton, East Sussex, England UK590 posts
Liebe2: Maybe because their religion has the same power over the people that ours had hundreds of years ago? That's why they fight technology so much and opening to the West, for fear they would lose control over the people.
its true that the muslims dont use force to make u a muslim ,but they have to wait till u enlighted by the coran and change ur faith.its true that in every place christians went turned the natives to chistians by the sward.even here in greece they had to slaughter 150000 on twelvegods believes to manage tun greece in a chistian county of byzantium. ofcourse u never learn them at school.most of u dont know that around 1100-1200 a.d all the great onegod religion leaders gathered at Rome to talk ab their dogmas the only thing they agreed was that woman has no soul ,so she is dirty and have to stay out of paradise.find a woman priest ,if u dont believe me , among any christian church. remember how many years , womenwere just a pot for pleasure for men(christians yes)and nothing more. i hate all religions to my guts cause the last 1500 years trey only devine people and bring only sadness in our lives. but as lenin said ,"change everything dont mess with religion"
magna1: American/European muslim communities are basically immigrants,-and of course there´s converts,-but,(speaking from Sweden),-most converts here don´t do it because of faith...Some yes...And most Swedish converts are women,-married to muslimmen..It´s of course their choice,-but I quite sure they never claimed themselves being Christians before becoming muslims...,and all of sudden they´re muslims on paper...But it´s freewill....In my last post,I was answering you to your earlier,historical reasons for the expanding of Islam....Hmmm,-strange as it sounds,-I do enjoy your posts...We´re worlds apart...but quite fun...
yea i know u were answering my posts but we never asked the women in sweden i mean never forced them to convert. why would they just convert not to pay taxes? sounds strange.
alfibarios: its true that the muslims dont use force to make u a muslim ,but they have to wait till u enlighted by the coran and change ur faith.its true that in every place christians went turned the natives to chistians by the sward.even here in greece they had to slaughter 150000 on twelvegods believes to manage tun greece in a chistian county of byzantium. ofcourse u never learn them at school.most of u dont know that around 1100-1200 a.d all the great onegod religion leaders gathered at Rome to talk ab their dogmas the only thing they agreed was that woman has no soul ,so she is dirty and have to stay out of paradise.find a woman priest ,if u dont believe me , among any christian church. remember how many years , womenwere just a pot for pleasure for men(christians yes)and nothing more. i hate all religions to my guts cause the last 1500 years trey only devine people and bring only sadness in our lives. but as lenin said ,"change everything dont mess with religion"
I totally agree with u, we are only to enlighten people who are interested, the rest is upto them, whether they want to convert or continue with whatever beliefs they have.
RayfromUSA: (to Conrad concerning his mention of Southeast Asia and the Middle East)
Are you referring to the genocidal American invasions and occupations that killed millions of poor innocents in those areas in the last 50 years?
Liebe2: I'm pretty sure he is referring to the civilisation and respect for others that people from this area have claimed to have on the forums lately
RayfromUSA: In my opinion, the supposed concern for "civilization and respect for others" rings pretty hollow coming from anyone who supports genocidal invasions and occupations of entire nations just to steal their resources.
Liebe2: The fact that you take for granted a book written 1400 yrs ago or so is your choice. I asked you if you had an opinion of your own and you could not provide an answer, but more quotes. I guess there's nothing more to add, for I do not want to "absorb" and take for granted what religious leaders want to shove down my throat.
it make sense and islam is full of logic and have solution to every problem.
SHAHIDKHAN: yea i know u were answering my posts but we never asked the women in sweden i mean never forced them to convert. why would they just convert not to pay taxes? sounds strange.
"we never asked"???What do you mean???Taxes,-we spoke of long,gone times...The reason for converting(Swedish women),-is simple....The few I know choosed to do so for several reasons...,-to satisfy the will of their men,to be 100% behind their men,-and NOT out of religious reasons..Yes,-it always amazes me,when I see women here,who never paid attention to either Christianity,nor Islam,-and all of sudden wearing a hijab...Again,-freewill...but not out of spiritual reason..
magna1: "we never asked"???What do you mean???Taxes,-we spoke of long,gone times...The reason for converting(Swedish women),-is simple....The few I know choosed to do so for several reasons...,-to satisfy the will of their men,to be 100% behind their men,-and NOT out of religious reasons..Yes,-it always amazes me,when I see women here,who never paid attention to either Christianity,nor Islam,-and all of sudden wearing a hijab...Again,-freewill...but not out of spiritual reason..
i rephrased my sentence and said i mean we never forced them. will its just in ur opinion that they did that and that for converting. you must ask them the reason and they can tell u exactly why they converted.
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Interesting theory that