Damaged Men (163)

Aug 18, 2010 8:12 PM CST Damaged Men
tarnsnz
tarnsnztarnsnzSouth Coast Beach, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 5,102 Posts
Shell225: For me .. this a MAJOR RED FLAG .. this is where I run away, and incredibly fast. I've been there, and I've done that, and I'll be open and honest and say that there are many days even now that Im still licking the wounds from that experience.

I had a man, and we were together for over a year, 'two peas in a pod', absolutely and totally in love, never a harsh word between us. He was separated (had been for a year before I met him) .. and the 'ex' didnt know that he was moving on. Trust me when I say, that when she found out, she was one of those women who doesnt actually want him, but NO ONE else will ever get their hands on him either.

She gave him an ultimatum, come back or loose it ALL - the kids. He went back .. I stepped back and walked away (the good church girl). I never contacted him again.

He rang the other day ... We'd not spoken for a year, not one word, text, email. He rang to hear my voice. I hope she is happy, its clear that he isnt. I respect that he (as a man) has to finish what he started, has to stay and make whatever their marriage is work.

But I will never get involved with a separated man again.



hug that's the scarey part, getting involved in a relationship like that - there are some horrible people out there.

When 2 people split for good, it's good to have a clean cut and both get on with ya own new lives.

You were strong and sensitive Shell to do what you did with someone who you obvioulsy cared about deeply comfort wine
Aug 18, 2010 9:06 PM CST Damaged Men
Misty1773
Misty1773Misty1773Grafton, New South Wales Australia5 Threads 257 Posts
Shell225: For me .. this a MAJOR RED FLAG .. this is where I run away, and incredibly fast. I've been there, and I've done that, and I'll be open and honest and say that there are many days even now that Im still licking the wounds from that experience.

I had a man, and we were together for over a year, 'two peas in a pod', absolutely and totally in love, never a harsh word between us. He was separated (had been for a year before I met him) .. and the 'ex' didnt know that he was moving on. Trust me when I say, that when she found out, she was one of those women who doesnt actually want him, but NO ONE else will ever get their hands on him either.

She gave him an ultimatum, come back or loose it ALL - the kids. He went back .. I stepped back and walked away (the good church girl). I never contacted him again.

He rang the other day ... We'd not spoken for a year, not one word, text, email. He rang to hear my voice. I hope she is happy, its clear that he isnt. I respect that he (as a man) has to finish what he started, has to stay and make whatever their marriage is work.

But I will never get involved with a separated man again.


its pretty hard to find a man who doesnt have an ex somewhere. As i stated, the guy in question is a very good friend. And until everything in his life is sorted and finalised then that is how we will remain. Just good friends, and then if i havent been snapped up by someone else, then who knows what may happen.

I started the thread because I just didnt get why when there is a break up, some women do their absolute best to make life hell for their ex and have to hurt them so badly they just find it hard to trust & love again. Especially when the woman is the one who walked away & ended the relationship.

Thank you all for your advice & help which I have taken on board. If nothing else I do know I have a terrific friend here who I will support in all ways possible.
Aug 19, 2010 4:06 AM CST Damaged Men
ybfayl
ybfaylybfaylBrisbane, Queensland Australia13 Threads 2 Polls 589 Posts
Misty1773: its pretty hard to find a man who doesnt have an ex somewhere. As i stated, the guy in question is a very good friend. And until everything in his life is sorted and finalised then that is how we will remain. Just good friends, and then if i havent been snapped up by someone else, then who knows what may happen.

I started the thread because I just didnt get why when there is a break up, some women do their absolute best to make life hell for their ex and have to hurt them so badly they just find it hard to trust & love again. Especially when the woman is the one who walked away & ended the relationship.

Thank you all for your advice & help which I have taken on board. If nothing else I do know I have a terrific friend here who I will support in all ways possible.


I have a bad attitude hanging onto people when it doesn’t work out. I figure- Ive got enough friends in my life don’t need any more.. SO SO SO honey don’t let da door hit ya on yer way OUT. laugh
Aug 19, 2010 7:37 AM CST Damaged Men
redozichick
redozichickredozichickBrisbane, Queensland Australia2 Threads 3,934 Posts
DJMcC: I think your statement is a bit of a 2 way street, women do it to men, men do it to women..................that didnt sound quite right but you know what I mean,
laugh laugh
Aug 19, 2010 7:42 AM CST Damaged Men
redozichick
redozichickredozichickBrisbane, Queensland Australia2 Threads 3,934 Posts
Larf75: I also believe that there are people out there that are scared of being single for to long because they feel they will get past being able to settle down with someone or won't be able to compromise with a partner due to not having to do it for so long or even being able to share their time or more with someone.
oh crapuh oh I'm screwed thendrinking
Aug 19, 2010 7:45 AM CST Damaged Men
redozichick
redozichickredozichickBrisbane, Queensland Australia2 Threads 3,934 Posts
Shell225: Peace and love to you
can we have ducks and goats too???
I'm not eating the goatuh oh
Aug 19, 2010 7:48 AM CST Damaged Men
redozichick
redozichickredozichickBrisbane, Queensland Australia2 Threads 3,934 Posts
Shell225: For me .. this a MAJOR RED FLAG .. this is where I run away, and incredibly fast. I've been there, and I've done that, and I'll be open and honest and say that there are many days even now that Im still licking the wounds from that experience.

I had a man, and we were together for over a year, 'two peas in a pod', absolutely and totally in love, never a harsh word between us. He was separated (had been for a year before I met him) .. and the 'ex' didnt know that he was moving on. Trust me when I say, that when she found out, she was one of those women who doesnt actually want him, but NO ONE else will ever get their hands on him either.

She gave him an ultimatum, come back or loose it ALL - the kids. He went back .. I stepped back and walked away (the good church girl). I never contacted him again.

He rang the other day ... We'd not spoken for a year, not one word, text, email. He rang to hear my voice. I hope she is happy, its clear that he isnt. I respect that he (as a man) has to finish what he started, has to stay and make whatever their marriage is work.

But I will never get involved with a separated man again.
poor guysad flower
Aug 30, 2010 5:58 AM CST Damaged Men
jimbob47
jimbob47jimbob47adelaide, South Australia Australia21 Threads 380 Posts
Misty1773: What I want to know is, why do someone women go out of their way to completely screw over a mans heart, that he finds it so hard to trust and love again???


Misty1773 I have no idea why anyone male or female does this .In my own case I didn't really know what was going on .
But looking back there were signs that I didn't see or want to see.
Its harder the longer you have been together .
Its even harder(take note people)when they say its not your fault its theirs.
Actually I'm turned off marriage never ever again !!!
Aug 30, 2010 6:10 AM CST Damaged Men
ybfayl
ybfaylybfaylBrisbane, Queensland Australia13 Threads 2 Polls 589 Posts
jimbob47: Misty1773 I have no idea why anyone male or female does this .In my own case I didn't really know what was going on .
But looking back there were signs that I didn't see or want to see.
Its harder the longer you have been together .
Its even harder(take note people)when they say its not your fault its theirs.
Actually I'm turned off marriage never ever again !!!
it gets easier & easier once the blame game stops wave
Aug 30, 2010 6:20 AM CST Damaged Men
blondeozichick
blondeozichickblondeozichickMelbourne, Victoria Australia19 Threads 1 Polls 1,355 Posts
jimbob47: Misty1773 I have no idea why anyone male or female does this .In my own case I didn't really know what was going on .
But looking back there were signs that I didn't see or want to see.
Its harder the longer you have been together .
Its even harder(take note people)when they say its not your fault its theirs.
Actually I'm turned off marriage never ever again !!!


marriage is just a piece of paper anyway wine
Aug 30, 2010 7:52 AM CST Damaged Men
redozichick
redozichickredozichickBrisbane, Queensland Australia2 Threads 3,934 Posts
blondeozichick: marriage is just a piece of paper anyway
thumbs up wine
Aug 30, 2010 2:37 PM CST Damaged Men
dragondog4
dragondog4dragondog4Perth, Western Australia Australia55 Threads 3,912 Posts
blondeozichick: marriage is just a piece of paper anyway


Well thats a great attitude.
Aug 30, 2010 4:13 PM CST Damaged Men
Shell225
Shell225Shell225Brisbane, Queensland Australia26 Threads 8,572 Posts
blondeozichick: marriage is just a piece of paper anyway


I agree that for many people marriage is exactly just a piece of paper. Committment comes from within the person, and is expressed through the relationship. No amount of vows or promises is going to change a 'non' committed person.
Aug 30, 2010 5:52 PM CST Damaged Men
ohnuts1
ohnuts1ohnuts1brisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 2,101 Posts
blondeozichick: marriage is just a piece of paper anyway
and sometimes when it gets really bad..... it ends up like a piece of well used toilet paperrolling on the floor laughing
Aug 30, 2010 9:12 PM CST Damaged Men
dragondog4
dragondog4dragondog4Perth, Western Australia Australia55 Threads 3,912 Posts
Shell225: I agree that for many people marriage is exactly just a piece of paper. Committment comes from within the person, and is expressed through the relationship. No amount of vows or promises is going to change a 'non' committed person.


And that just shows how badly society has degenerated.

I agree with No amount of vows or promises is going to change a 'non' committed person But if that is the situation, that individual should never enter the church for a formal ceremony.

Marriage is just like taking on a pet or having a baby. It is a life long commitment. If your not prepared to commit your life to it. DON'T DO IT.

No lets really blow this out of the water.

Marriage is a ceremony a couple undertakes to pledge their lifelong commitment to each other; in the house of the lord and the presence of their family and friends.

So why do so many who break this commitment, turn to the lord for help and guidance afterwards.

Why would the lord even deem to listen to them when they have already broken their word/vow to the lord in terms of their marriage.

Its just hypocrasy of the highest degree. Which is Humans the world over in today's cesspit, which we politely call society.
Aug 30, 2010 9:48 PM CST Damaged Men
dragondog4
dragondog4dragondog4Perth, Western Australia Australia55 Threads 3,912 Posts
So IF marriage is such a gimmick. What are we telling our kids and grand kids.

Do we change the words in all the fairy tales we read them.

Do we try to talk them out of getting married.

Do we ask them why they wish to get married.

Do we explain to them the true meaning of marriage.

Or do we continue to resurrect the fantasy of happily ever after for the sake of form, and to avoid the arguement with fellow adults.
Aug 31, 2010 1:38 AM CST Damaged Men
blondeozichick
blondeozichickblondeozichickMelbourne, Victoria Australia19 Threads 1 Polls 1,355 Posts
dragondog4: Well thats a great attitude.


oh well... its my opinion dunno I dont agree with your slant on things either dragondog...the lord this and lord that .. give me a break barf

marriage is not about religion.. so there is no point spouting on about god and stuff that not everyone believes in btw drinking

people get married who don't have or follow a particular religion.. hence why we have marriage celebrants yeah? dunno

and of course most people get married thinking it will last forever.. who doesn't??? but people change.. what they want in life changes as the years go by and it may not be in accordance with what their marrital partner wants...so then its time to either come to a compromise or follow your bliss and do what makes you happy... oh wait... or should we stay married cos we made vows no matter how miserable we are in that relationship??

this is real life .. not a fairy tale
Aug 31, 2010 2:06 AM CST Damaged Men
blondeozichick
blondeozichickblondeozichickMelbourne, Victoria Australia19 Threads 1 Polls 1,355 Posts
dragondog4: So IF marriage is such a gimmick. What are we telling our kids and grand kids.

Do we change the words in all the fairy tales we read them.

Do we try to talk them out of getting married.

Do we ask them why they wish to get married.

Do we explain to them the true meaning of marriage.

Or do we continue to resurrect the fantasy of happily ever after for the sake of form, and to avoid the arguement with fellow adults.


I know what to tell them.. tell them to save their money and not waste it on a wedding and just go on a fantastic holiday together and have some great memories and lots of laughs or tell them to put the money they would spend on a wedding on a house deposit so they have some security later in life and to just love and learn from each other and be happy .. that can be done without being married wine

oh and tell them they dont have to get married to be committed to someone ... having a piece of paper doesnt mean its going to be a better relationship.. I know lots of people who never got married and are still together 20+ yrs later.. I also know lots of people who got married and they are now divorced

oh and maybe you can tell them that 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce so if they do get married and it lasts then good for them... if it ends 10 yrs later then tell them thats ok to.. cos life is too short to be miserable for half of it

hence my statement that marriage is just a piece of paper
Aug 31, 2010 3:12 AM CST Damaged Men
jimbob47
jimbob47jimbob47adelaide, South Australia Australia21 Threads 380 Posts
Now I wish you two lived near me .you two seem like a lot of fun.
And personally your both correct .
Aug 31, 2010 3:31 AM CST Damaged Men
Shell225
Shell225Shell225Brisbane, Queensland Australia26 Threads 8,572 Posts
dragondog4: And that just shows how badly society has degenerated.

I agree with No amount of vows or promises is going to change a 'non' committed person But if that is the situation, that individual should never enter the church for a formal ceremony.

Marriage is just like taking on a pet or having a baby. It is a life long commitment. If your not prepared to commit your life to it. DON'T DO IT.

No lets really blow this out of the water.

Marriage is a ceremony a couple undertakes to pledge their lifelong commitment to each other; in the house of the lord and the presence of their family and friends.

So why do so many who break this commitment, turn to the lord for help and guidance afterwards.

Why would the lord even deem to listen to them when they have already broken their word/vow to the lord in terms of their marriage.
Its just hypocrasy of the highest degree. Which is Humans the world over in today's cesspit, which we politely call society.


because people change, because people WANT to change, because people want to be better. For some people that involves exploring their spiritual side. For some people exploring their spiritual side means that they are learning to hold themselves personally accountable for their role in their relationship breakdown. That is not hypocritical, that is evolving as a human being.

Its rotten when a marriage breaks down, its rotten when any relationship breaks down. But being married doesnt make you more accountable for that breakdown. Its just as sad when people have been together for 20 years, have children and their defacto relationships falls apart.
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