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Aug 31, 2010 7:14 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
starshinebright
starshinebrightstarshinebrightRiverside, California USA189 Threads 1 Polls 6,305 Posts
My son's 22 year old friend, a girl, her mom is on drugs.....so she can't talk to her, she just met her father. My son says he is the only one who knows.....and I can't tell. She is a friend on FB, gorgeous young lady.

She has no health insurance.......so details of how she found out are not clear to me. But she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer frustrated

That one is a killer. She is ignoring it......a friend of mine said there are programs in California that would take care of her.
How can I approach her without breaking my son's confidence????

She just posted "This day is beyond stressful I just wanna sccccrreeeammm" I sent her a private message letting her know I am and will always be here for her, that her privacy was #1 with me.

Signed Smom.......2nd mom................

What else can I do?frustrated
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Aug 31, 2010 7:21 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
Northof7
Northof7Northof7Cameron, Ontario Canada29 Threads 696 Posts
This my sound wrong, but sometimes we have to step back and wait for them to ask for help before it is to late.

I hope it all works out star
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Aug 31, 2010 7:25 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
starshinebright
starshinebrightstarshinebrightRiverside, California USA189 Threads 1 Polls 6,305 Posts
Northof7: This my sound wrong, but sometimes we have to step back and wait for them to ask for help before it is to late.

I hope it all works out star



That is what I am doing......but being a mother of 4 kids, and know her since a young teen, its very hard for me, she made my son swear not to tell. I need to be able to let her know how to get help, or this will kill her.............sigh crying
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Aug 31, 2010 7:29 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
amrek
amrekamrekprineville, Oregon USA248 Posts
starshinebright: That is what I am doing......but being a mother of 4 kids, and know her since a young teen, its very hard for me, she made my son swear not to tell. I need to be able to let her know how to get help, or this will kill her.............
Tell your son to tell her. Good luck.
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Aug 31, 2010 7:32 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
sweetlonglegs
sweetlonglegssweetlonglegshartford, Connecticut USA3 Threads 69 Posts
You just did by sending her the email you sent her.
Also share the information with your son about what help she needs to get and let her know how serious her health issue is.

I hope you and your son/friend the best. bouquet
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Aug 31, 2010 7:33 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
starshinebright
starshinebrightstarshinebrightRiverside, California USA189 Threads 1 Polls 6,305 Posts
amrek: Tell your son to tell her. Good luck.



I beg him to and told him why.............but if he doesn't he breaks her confidence...............sigh but I told him sometimes its better, and this time is, I told him she will die!!!!hug
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Aug 31, 2010 7:33 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
laura139
laura139laura139Broomfield, Colorado USA11 Threads 1 Polls 668 Posts
It must be really hard for you to not say anything, but I agree
with the above, that's all you can do, and I hope things will fall into place quickly for her sake and for you watching and having to remain quiet...hug bouquet
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Aug 31, 2010 7:38 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
Northof7
Northof7Northof7Cameron, Ontario Canada29 Threads 696 Posts
starshinebright: That is what I am doing......but being a mother of 4 kids, and know her since a young teen, its very hard for me, she made my son swear not to tell. I need to be able to let her know how to get help, or this will kill her.............


Star, I lost a lover to this when I was much much younger. We were both scared and I know what can happen and how it must be hurting you. Ask your son to talk to her, asking her to then talk to you.

Right now I know you feel like jumping in wait seven days then do what you feel is right. She may hate you and your son for awhile, but she will get over it and hopefully thank you.

I am not a believer in prayer, I am a belierver in doing.

All the best to everyone.

I know you will do what is best. You have my hugs.hug
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Aug 31, 2010 7:47 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
starshinebright: My son's 22 year old friend, a girl, her mom is on drugs.....so she can't talk to her, she just met her father. My son says he is the only one who knows.....and I can't tell. She is a friend on FB, gorgeous young lady.

She has no health insurance.......so details of how she found out are not clear to me. But she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer

That one is a killer. She is ignoring it......a friend of mine said there are programs in California that would take care of her.
How can I approach her without breaking my son's confidence????

She just posted "This day is beyond stressful I just wanna sccccrreeeammm" I sent her a private message letting her know I am and will always be here for her, that her privacy was #1 with me.

Signed Smom.......2nd mom................

What else can I do?


While the situation may be heartbreaking and by nature you want to reach out and help, unless she accepts she has cancer and decides to fight it, there's nothing else you can do.

I am sure she knows about Medicaid and what her options are as an Oncologists will speak at length with a cancer patient about options and what types of state benefits and services are available.

You shouldn't approach her if you don't have a personal friendship w/ her because she might be offended and get angry with your son. He confided in you and you should not break his confidence, he needs your support right now.

This young lady has informed her father about her illness, so she has his support and she has also confided in your son too. Explain to your son how you feel and then maybe encourage him to help her face her fate and get the treatment she needs.

Ovarian cancer does not have to be a death sentence, if it's caught and treated early, but sadly it has no symptoms and is generally only detectable through a blood test. She does need to explore her options, but it's her choice as to what she does as far as treatment or not receiving treatment.

I am so sorry for you situation...it's a horrible one and I wish you strength at this difficult time.hug
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Aug 31, 2010 7:48 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
amrek
amrekamrekprineville, Oregon USA248 Posts
Northof7: Star, I lost a lover to this when I was much much younger. We were both scared and I know what can happen and how it must be hurting you. Ask your son to talk to her, asking her to then talk to you.

Right now I know you feel like jumping in wait seven days then do what you feel is right. She may hate you and your son for awhile, but she will get over it and hopefully thank you.

I am not a believer in prayer, I am a belierver in doing.

All the best to everyone.

I know you will do what is best. You have my hugs.
You are very wise. dancing thumbs up
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Aug 31, 2010 7:51 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
starshinebright: My son's 22 year old friend, a girl, her mom is on drugs.....so she can't talk to her, she just met her father. My son says he is the only one who knows.....and I can't tell. She is a friend on FB, gorgeous young lady.

She has no health insurance.......so details of how she found out are not clear to me. But she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer

That one is a killer. She is ignoring it......a friend of mine said there are programs in California that would take care of her.
How can I approach her without breaking my son's confidence????

She just posted "This day is beyond stressful I just wanna sccccrreeeammm" I sent her a private message letting her know I am and will always be here for her, that her privacy was #1 with me.

Signed Smom.......2nd mom................

What else can I do?


Just a thought, maybe by the girl sharing the information w/ her mother, it may motivate her to become clean and sober, sort of a wake-up call? It may be a prelude to causing some serious changes in her mother's life by knowing her daughter has cancer and may die. JHMO
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Aug 31, 2010 7:53 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Sounds like a tough situation S. Do what you think is right.
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Aug 31, 2010 8:00 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
starshinebright
starshinebrightstarshinebrightRiverside, California USA189 Threads 1 Polls 6,305 Posts
lilmamma71: While the situation may be heartbreaking and by nature you want to reach out and help, unless she accepts she has cancer and decides to fight it, there's nothing else you can do.

I am sure she knows about Medicaid and what her options are as an Oncologists will speak at length with a cancer patient about options and what types of state benefits and services are available.

You shouldn't approach her if you don't have a personal friendship w/ her because she might be offended and get angry with your son. He confided in you and you should not break his confidence, he needs your support right now.

This young lady has informed her father about her illness, so she has his support and she has also confided in your son too. Explain to your son how you feel and then maybe encourage him to help her face her fate and get the treatment she needs.

Ovarian cancer does not have to be a death sentence, if it's caught and treated early, but sadly it has no symptoms and is generally only detectable through a blood test. She does need to explore her options, but it's her choice as to what she does as far as treatment or not receiving treatment.

I am so sorry for you situation...it's a horrible one and I wish you strength at this difficult time.


I am not so sure she knows anything about what the state has available to her.....thats what upsets me.....I can inform her. And no...her father does not know..........
To me she is ignoring everything.........and she has been in a lot of pain, according to her posts...she lives on her own with a room mate. Sometimes secrets have to be broken.....even if it means losing his trust for awhile........I just cannot watch this beautiful, talented lil woman just die!!sigh

The ones that survive ovarian cancer are the ones that catch it early......most don't know until its too late...
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Aug 31, 2010 8:02 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
starshinebright
starshinebrightstarshinebrightRiverside, California USA189 Threads 1 Polls 6,305 Posts
lilmamma71: Just a thought, maybe by the girl sharing the information w/ her mother, it may motivate her to become clean and sober, sort of a wake-up call? It may be a prelude to causing some serious changes in her mother's life by knowing her daughter has cancer and may die. JHMO



I wish that was so...but no....her mom is in trouble with the law....sigh
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Aug 31, 2010 8:22 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
starshinebright: I wish that was so...but no....her mom is in trouble with the law....


To Starshine,
I know it is a tough situation when you break a trust. But look at this way, you said that, that girl you know her when she was growing up. And she's your son's best friend. Be blunt to her. You already knew the situations when she emailed you, so it's not a secret, and you don't break the trust for your son to that girl.
IN MY OWN OPINION, I WOULD BE BLUNT AND HONEST TO HER, EXPLAIN TO HER THAT IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM. IT DON'T MATTER TO ME IF SHE WOULD BE MAD, OR SCREAM AT ME. I WOULD EXPLAIN TO HER THAT SHE WOULD NEED IMMEDIATE HELP TO SAVE HER LIFE, AND IN THE SAME TIME BE SUPPORTIVE, AND COMPASSIONATE TO HER NEEDS. AND MOST OF ALL BY LISTENING TO HER STORY WITHOUT BEING JUDGEMENTAL WOULD BE THE BEST.
I know the law, that no one will be denied for treatment even that person doesn't have any type of insurance, cuz it's against the law that they hospital will deny a patient in need of treatment. and there are services and programs out there, just asks your senator, congressman, or human services.
Good luck!!! to you, and i hope you take that girl to the doctor right away, bec it's a matter of life and death.........
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Aug 31, 2010 8:25 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
starshinebright
starshinebrightstarshinebrightRiverside, California USA189 Threads 1 Polls 6,305 Posts
lovelyliza: To Starshine,
I know it is a tough situation when you break a trust. But look at this way, you said that, that girl you know her when she was growing up. And she's your son's best friend. Be blunt to her. You already knew the situations when she emailed you, so it's not a secret, and you don't break the trust for your son to that girl.
IN MY OWN OPINION, I WOULD BE BLUNT AND HONEST TO HER, EXPLAIN TO HER THAT IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM. IT DON'T MATTER TO ME IF SHE WOULD BE MAD, OR SCREAM AT ME. I WOULD EXPLAIN TO HER THAT SHE WOULD NEED IMMEDIATE HELP TO SAVE HER LIFE, AND IN THE SAME TIME BE SUPPORTIVE, AND COMPASSIONATE TO HER NEEDS. AND MOST OF ALL BY LISTENING TO HER STORY WITHOUT BEING JUDGEMENTAL WOULD BE THE BEST.
I know the law, that no one will be denied for treatment even that person doesn't have any type of insurance, cuz it's against the law that they hospital will deny a patient in need of treatment. and there are services and programs out there, just asks your senator, congressman, or human services.
Good luck!!! to you, and i hope you take that girl to the doctor right away, bec it's a matter of life and death.........



awe....thanks you are a sweetie....no....I emailed her..she does not know I know..........bouquet
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Aug 31, 2010 8:27 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
MetalMilitia
MetalMilitiaMetalMilitiaseattle, Washington USA6 Threads 576 Posts
its none of your business... stay out of it !!!


if she needs it or wants it she'll ask for help ...


Why do people always think they HAVE to butt in???? .....


doh doh
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Aug 31, 2010 8:31 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
sloopi
sloopisloopisan antonio, Texas USA17 Posts
This is insane, there is no dilemma here. There are times to be your kids friend: he broke daddy's favorite golf club, you both snuck some ice cream late at night while you were supposed to be on a diet,and him asleep for school in the morning.
These are in keeping with maintaining your childs confidence and in the first case possibly avoiding a hospital bill. But there are definitely times when a parent simply HAS to bite the bullet and be the all around a**hole bad guy.THOSE times include your child has joyridden in your car and returned totally wasted, you see needles under his bed and he doesn't have diabetes,and for DAMNED sure in any situation that requires the use of the term DEATH! Are you kidding me keep his confidence(scoff) he won't love you quite as much for a day but his respect will grow daily. And if something can be done in time as a result of your speedy action the admiration of them both. No there's no dilema. (IF YOU DON'T SAY ITS WRONG IT MUST BE RIGHT)
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Aug 31, 2010 8:36 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
nanners2863
nanners2863nanners2863Cayuga, Ontario Canada38 Threads 3,355 Posts
This is a serious health issue and I think you need to talk to your son and tell him that as much as you hate to, you are going to have to break his confidence. Explain that this is a serious situation that needs intervention. dunno
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Aug 31, 2010 8:37 PM CST This is a hard one for me.....
starshinebright
starshinebrightstarshinebrightRiverside, California USA189 Threads 1 Polls 6,305 Posts
MetalMilitia: its none of your business... stay out of it !!!if she needs it or wants it she'll ask for help ...Why do people always think they HAVE to butt in???? .....


Thank you hug ..have not butted in......she is only 22....no parental guidance....I can give her options to save her life, and you say butt out? I don't think I could live with myself, if I don't try........if she says no.......then its no......thats not wrong?
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