Survival of the fittest (49)
robsantiago15: I have to agree with you. When I was little kid I used to live with my grandparents in Puerto Rico. They were not wealthy, they pretty much ate from the land. For Water they had to collect it from the rain for drinking or bathing because water service would not be available most of the time. There were times we had to go to the river for bathing if rain was not available. Electricity at my grandparents house was also a problem. Electricity would be gone for weeks at a time, so we depended a lot on candles. For communication they had a cb radio with a car battery. Their house was made out of rusted aluminum panels and wood that had termites. Later on when I moved back to mainland U.S. I noticed that the society there was not even prepare to deal with these type of situations. Sustainability and survival it doesn't seem to be part of the culture. If they have an electricity blackout is consider a national emergency and everybody seems to go into panic, when there are people around the world that are more equipped to handle situation like this.
Ah yes, VERY interesting situation thread!
This is where we need to get rid of our "Addictions" ... like salt, fried foods, and fussy-ness over "taste" and what we eat.
And over what is actually "hunger" and what is "habit".
We can all live for 30 days without food, but we NEED water.
In the meantime one needs to learn what and which wild foods are edible ... and which are NOT!
At the moment, Switzerland is overrun with CATS .. so I guess that Cat Stew could be pretty nutritious? ......with a bit of Dandelion root coffee?.... and those roadside weeds, some of which, in summer make very good cereals......
This is where we need to get rid of our "Addictions" ... like salt, fried foods, and fussy-ness over "taste" and what we eat.
And over what is actually "hunger" and what is "habit".
We can all live for 30 days without food, but we NEED water.
In the meantime one needs to learn what and which wild foods are edible ... and which are NOT!
At the moment, Switzerland is overrun with CATS .. so I guess that Cat Stew could be pretty nutritious? ......with a bit of Dandelion root coffee?.... and those roadside weeds, some of which, in summer make very good cereals......
When Hannibal besieged Pompeii, the townies planted turnip. It made the opponent very angry when he learned that and he actually decided to storm the town. (If I remember my Titus Livius right).
But back to the present… Some posts give impression of some kind of idyllic calamity… Good people, it’s ugly! You are going to be busy providing food and shelter for you and your family, that’s right. But you are also will be busy by providing security, physical security, and it will take most of your time and energy. Even if there would be rots and berries along roads, would it be safe to go out and gather it?
Tin food and ammunition = best investment.
But back to the present… Some posts give impression of some kind of idyllic calamity… Good people, it’s ugly! You are going to be busy providing food and shelter for you and your family, that’s right. But you are also will be busy by providing security, physical security, and it will take most of your time and energy. Even if there would be rots and berries along roads, would it be safe to go out and gather it?
Tin food and ammunition = best investment.
Tulefel: When Hannibal besieged Pompeii, the townies planted turnip. It made the opponent very angry when he learned that and he actually decided to storm the town. (If I remember my Titus Livius right).
But back to the present… Some posts give impression of some kind of idyllic calamity… Good people, it’s ugly! You are going to be busy providing food and shelter for you and your family, that’s right. But you are also will be busy by providing security, physical security, and it will take most of your time and energy. Even if there would be rots and berries along roads, would it be safe to go out and gather it?
Tin food and ammunition = best investment.
already have a good 12 bore shotgun plus plenty of shells security no problem have no problem using it to protect my family and propertyBut back to the present… Some posts give impression of some kind of idyllic calamity… Good people, it’s ugly! You are going to be busy providing food and shelter for you and your family, that’s right. But you are also will be busy by providing security, physical security, and it will take most of your time and energy. Even if there would be rots and berries along roads, would it be safe to go out and gather it?
Tin food and ammunition = best investment.
In the above cases ..... everyone better stay out of Swissyland! ALL the men are armed here, and everyone has their own vege gardens! AND cellars full of food!.....(and lots of cats)
smoky: In the above cases ..... everyone better stay out of Swissyland! ALL the men are armed here, and everyone has their own vege gardens! AND cellars full of food!.....(and lots of cats)
u leave them
alone...start with the animals in the zoo's then cannibalism, them i'll think about cats!!! 
Mazza1970: u leave them alone...start with the animals in the zoo's then cannibalism, them i'll think about cats!!!
Sorry, just joking.... Lately, in the newspapers here ... is the incredible amount of "wild" cats .. people who abandon their cats or dont have them sterilized, and all the babies this produces ..... poor things trying to fend for themselves! Humans who do this should be sterilized as well!
Oh okay, we`ll start with cannibalising the "cat dumpers" ......
Mazza1970: u leave them alone...start with the animals in the zoo's then cannibalism, them i'll think about cats!!!
Well there are enough cats in Cyprus to feed the whole middle east
tomcatwarne: Well there are enough cats in Cyprus to feed the whole middle east
And enough wild cats in the Emirates to feed all of Europe!..a bit skinny ..... and hungry themselves ....
smoky: And enough wild cats in the Emirates to feed all of Europe!..a bit skinny ..... and hungry themselves ....
Feral Cats are raising Havoc with small,sometimes endangered Species everywhere!wedward: already have a good 12 bore shotgun plus plenty of shells security no problem have no problem using it to protect my family and property
Oh, that’s good. You can bind them together and get a homemade Katyusha.
Tulefel: Oh, that’s good. You can bind them together and get a homemade Katyusha.
katyusha in modern terms means rocket many years ago it was a song sung by russian ladies whose men were away fighting dont see how it can possibly apply in this situation please explain ( and rememeber im only a poor old englishman living in exile) wedward: katyusha in modern terms means rocket many years ago it was a song sung by russian ladies whose men were away fighting dont see how it can possibly apply in this situation please explain ( and rememeber im only a poor old englishman living in exile)
That's a Katyusha!!!or this:
Well,you asked for it!
Conrad73: That's a Katyusha!!!
or this:
Well,you asked for it!
thanks conrad you are right but i wanted just to point out a word can have more than one meaning oh what the hell does it really matter thanks conrad for your input wedyor this:
Well,you asked for it!
wedward: thanks conrad you are right but i wanted just to point out a word can have more than one meaning oh what the hell does it really matter thanks conrad for your input wedy
Just look at the English Language! Conrad73: Just look at the English Language!
as an englishman who reads very much i do i call it the flowery language you can express in english so much better thanks conrad 
wedward: as an englishman who reads very much i do i call it the flowery language you can express in english so much better thanks conrad
Thought so too!My first Language is German,but sometimes I feel,English does a better Job to express certain things!
Conrad73: Thought so too!
My first Language is German,but sometimes I feel,English does a better Job to express certain things!
i find it difficult to express oneself fully in german and much prefer english but i live in austria so i speak german but when people see that im english they say talk in english as it help them to improve their english skillsMy first Language is German,but sometimes I feel,English does a better Job to express certain things!
wedward: katyusha in modern terms means rocket many years ago it was a song sung by russian ladies whose men were away fighting dont see how it can possibly apply in this situation please explain ( and rememeber im only a poor old englishman living in exile)
Couldn’t find Katyusha, so it’ll be a GRAD instead, the technique is the same, there’s just some 50 years between. And no, I didn’t mean a song – if you bind 12 rifles together and fire off them at once, it won’t be a song, but a home-made… GRAD?
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I have to agree with you. When I was little kid I used to live with my grandparents in Puerto Rico. They were not wealthy, they pretty much ate from the land. For Water they had to collect it from the rain for drinking or bathing because water service would not be available most of the time. There were times we had to go to the river for bathing if rain was not available. Electricity at my grandparents house was also a problem. Electricity would be gone for weeks at a time, so we depended a lot on candles. For communication they had a cb radio with a car battery. Their house was made out of rusted aluminum panels and wood that had termites. Later on when I moved back to mainland U.S. I noticed that the society there was not even prepare to deal with these type of situations. Sustainability and survival it doesn't seem to be part of the culture. If they have an electricity blackout is consider a national emergency and everybody seems to go into panic, when there are people around the world that are more equipped to handle situation like this.