why did God die on the cross for you? (66)

Nov 16, 2010 6:53 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
trueword: There was hundreds of people crucified around that period, and every second one claiming he was the son of God not joking, had reason to research this period and I did believe that someone called JC was crucified, after reading several historical sources about it, not a chance, a made up story about everything from Egyptian gods to various visionaries that lived over a huge period.

very true
so tell mke this
why has jesus christs story survived to this day dunno
ill tell you why
its because his message was inspirational and he inspired his followers with his charisma and intelligence to convert a billion people to chritianity
no mean feat my furry friend
Nov 16, 2010 6:58 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
PT1977
PT1977PT1977Bray, Wicklow Ireland1 Threads 188 Posts
blipper2000: your in p


Haha, howya bud cheers
Nov 16, 2010 7:02 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
trueword
truewordtruewordMidlands, Westmeath Ireland2 Threads 104 Posts
blipper2000: very true
so tell mke this
why has jesus christs story survived to this day
ill tell you why
its because his message was inspirational and he inspired his followers with his charisma and intelligence to convert a billion people to chritianity
no mean feat my furry friend


Got it in one.thumbs up
Nov 16, 2010 7:29 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
PT1977
PT1977PT1977Bray, Wicklow Ireland1 Threads 188 Posts
trueword: I can't disagree with what you say apart from the last piece, I think we can write for many many reasons, not just being remembered or altering perceptions. it is an interesting point though


cheers thumbs up
Nov 16, 2010 7:30 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
trueword
truewordtruewordMidlands, Westmeath Ireland2 Threads 104 Posts
This is no good, if we agree with one another we cannot debate, where are the trolls when ya need them! cheers
Nov 16, 2010 7:47 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
One Solitary Life

He was born in an obscure village
The child of a peasant woman
He grew up in another obscure village
Where he worked in a carpenter shop
Until he was thirty

He never wrote a book
He never held an office
He never went to college
He never visited a big city
He never travelled more than two hundred miles
From the place where he was born
He did none of the things
Usually associated with greatness
He had no credentials but himself

He was only thirty three
His friends ran away
One of them denied him
He was turned over to his enemies
And went through the mockery of a trial
He was nailed to a cross between two thieves
While dying, his executioners gambled for his clothing
The only property he had on earth

When he was dead
He was laid in a borrowed grave
Through the pity of a friend

Nineteen centuries have come and gone
And today Jesus is the central figure of the human race
And the leader of mankind's progress
All the armies that have ever marched
All the navies that have ever sailed
All the parliaments that have ever sat
All the kings that ever reigned put together
Have not affected the life of mankind on earth
As powerfully as that one solitary life

Christianity is about a relationship with a risen Saviour.
Jesus has had more impact on mankind for good than any other person.




Nov 17, 2010 12:49 AM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
pedro27: Jesus is God. three in one the father the son and holy spirit, like a shamrock three leaves one stem, we are on earth a short while i foucus on entirnaty after i die on earth


Not true...In 325Ad at the Council of Nicaea there was vote that put 'The Holy Trinity' story in place....

Nov 17, 2010 2:27 AM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
whiteontop
whiteontopwhiteontopBelfast, Armagh Ireland16 Threads 1,389 Posts
pedro27: i know the answer.i'm feeling sprital tonight,


This one could run for a long time.

Not well up on Religion but to relate that time to modern times one could say that Jesus was a socialist and was a threat to those in power at that time. Remember he cleared the moneymen from the temple. Jesus as we have been told was a Jew.... he was hijacked by the christians and Jews to this day are waiting for the second coming. The world is in crisis because of the money system.

angel
Nov 17, 2010 4:32 AM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
pedro27: he died for you because he knew you b4 you were born and he really loves you!


Mithraism and Christianity

Most of the research into Mithraism, a religion with many parallels to Christianity, comes from two writers, Cumont and Ulansey. Some Similarities Between Mithraism and Christianity Among the recorded similarities are:

Virgin birth

Twelve followers

Killing and resurrection

Miracles

Birthdate on December 25

Morality

Mankind's savior

Known as the Light of the world

The Legend of Mithra

We often hear about how many of the traditions, rites and symbols of modern day "Christian" holidays have their roots in paganism. Recently I came across the writing of historian Franz Cumont, who is consider by many to be the leading research authority on Roman Paganism. I have chosen this issue to begin with the story of Mithraism' birth because it coincides with the Yule/Christmas season. I often wondered why December 25th was chosen to celebrate the birth of Christ. If the accounts in the Bible are correct, the time of Jesus birth would have been closer to mid-summer, for this is when shepherds would have been "tending their flocks in the field" and the new lambs were born. Strange enough I found an ancient pagan religion, Mithraism, which dates back over 2,600 years that also celebrated the birth of their "savior" on that date



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Nov 17, 2010 11:44 AM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
PT1977: Haha, howya bud
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Nov 17, 2010 1:02 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
I feel lucky that I believe in God and am a christian, I try to live my life in a good decent christian way, ok maybe the turning the other cheek bit doesn't really work but the basic message of Christ is to treat other people as you would have them treat you and it works, have a bit of respect for those you live , work and socialise with, do the odd good deed without looking for anything back and you will have a good life and feel better about yourself as a person.
Nov 17, 2010 1:07 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
billyj1
billyj1billyj1Sydney, New South Wales Australia12 Threads 2 Polls 801 Posts
I wasn't around when God died on the cross so he probably didn't have me in mind when he was doing it.
Nov 17, 2010 1:23 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
It's in the bible! The son is in the father and the fther is in ths son! That was a crucifiction offence in those days!wink
Nov 17, 2010 1:27 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
Godsgift: It's in the bible! The son is in the father and the fther is in ths son! That was a crucifiction offence in those days!


well done GG, your the only one on the thread that knew Jesus is Godthumbs up
Nov 17, 2010 1:29 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
pedro27: well done GG, your the only one on the thread that knew Jesus is God


More than you know Pedro. For what is a man if he forfeits his soul and gains the world in return?conversing
Nov 17, 2010 1:33 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
Godsgift: More than you know Pedro. For what is a man if he forfeits his soul and gains the world in return?


forgive and you will be forgiven..john 10;21

look not on your sins but on the faith of your church


jesus said who ever has seen me has seen the father.


the weeds and the wheat, on final judgement of the soul


i know lots i study the scriptures
Nov 17, 2010 2:47 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
ps

Who said "jehovah"?!uh oh laugh
Nov 17, 2010 2:49 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
PT1977
PT1977PT1977Bray, Wicklow Ireland1 Threads 188 Posts
sharmini: ah that aul chestnut! MAry Magdalene, I presume? Nah, she was a fine upstanding woman....of independent means....and the aul lads writing up the story werent too impressed with that...and probably envious of her relationship with our man of the moment. What? a woman who didnt need a man...or didnt answer to one? Nope couldnt be having that in the patriarchal culture of the time.....so they spread the word around that she was a woman of illgotten means...


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Nov 17, 2010 2:49 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
10FegsandaPint: Can you explain more?
It sounds like a more realistic story than the 1 we are fed by the bible
I don`t believe in God or Jesus or any of that malarky


here you go:

Nov 17, 2010 3:00 PM CST why did God die on the cross for you?



do u believe in God?
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