Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony? ( Archived) (117)

Jan 20, 2011 4:58 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
missingLondon
missingLondonmissingLondonMsida, Majjistral Malta101 Threads 11 Polls 455 Posts
Opinions?
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Jan 20, 2011 5:06 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
gracie00
gracie00gracie00adelaide, South Australia Australia2 Posts
Sure. Happily? Probably not long term unless they are tolerant of the others habits.
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Jan 20, 2011 5:10 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
missingLondon: Opinions?

Harmony???? I don`t think so...dunno
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Jan 20, 2011 5:11 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
missingLondon: Opinions?
no doubt..there are some who could......but not me....tidy..in body ....tidy in home.when my mum was alive ..you could eat off the floor..it was that clean...i suppose it rubs off...
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Jan 20, 2011 5:11 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
missingLondon
missingLondonmissingLondonMsida, Majjistral Malta101 Threads 11 Polls 455 Posts
I tolerated my ex's clutter for 12 years but it was always an issue between us as no matter how tolerant I was the clutter just got worse and it's disrespectful having to pick up socks and chocolate wrappers off the floor, not to mention computer equipment everywhere, wires, gadgets covering every square inch of the floor. I put up with a bag full of mess from a move from 2 years when I couldn't take it any longer in the middle of the living room, and started clearing it there was a scene.
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Jan 20, 2011 5:17 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
missingLondon: Opinions?


They can, provided each has their own space to be tidy or to clutter as they wish, and as long as there is an agreement about all shared spaces.
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Jan 20, 2011 5:20 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
estate
estateestatePERTH, Tayside, Scotland UK2 Threads 1,664 Posts
Hell noooooooo !!!!!
I hate a mess..

very mad very mad
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Jan 20, 2011 5:22 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
bearillastein
bearillasteinbearillasteinGeorgetown, Kentucky USA5 Posts
Not at all. The messy person has no concern for the tidy person. Tried it..doesn't work. I'm the neat one ;)
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Jan 20, 2011 5:34 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
bearillastein: Not at all. The messy person has no concern for the tidy person. Tried it..doesn't work. I'm the neat one ;)


Hm, the "messy" person could say the same.

I´m currently living with someone, who believes six towels are needed in the kitchen, all for various tasks: one for glasses, one for hands, one for plates that have just come out of the dishwasher, one for cutlery, one for... actually, I don´t know. It´s driving me nuts!!! I´m making a huge effort to keep the existing order, but in return I don´t wanna get told off when I get it wrong.

What am I trying to say?? The tidy person is not right by default. Meeting in the middle and finding the right compromise is essential, and both sides have to walk towards the other and make an effort. Then it can work out. dunno
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Jan 20, 2011 5:36 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
Not me,if she wasnt tidy,she would have to live in the shed grin
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Jan 20, 2011 5:38 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
invinciblemuse: Hm, the "messy" person could say the same.

I´m currently living with someone, who believes six towels are needed in the kitchen, all for various tasks: one for glasses, one for hands, one for plates that have just come out of the dishwasher, one for cutlery, one for... actually, I don´t know. It´s driving me nuts!!! I´m making a huge effort to keep the existing order, but in return I don´t wanna get told off when I get it wrong.

What am I trying to say?? The tidy person is not right by default. Meeting in the middle and finding the right compromise is essential, and both sides have to walk towards the other and make an effort. Then it can work out.
I would consider that a bit obsessive,and even i couldnt put up with that,and i am very tidy,in myself,and my home.bouquet
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Jan 20, 2011 5:46 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
missingLondon
missingLondonmissingLondonMsida, Majjistral Malta101 Threads 11 Polls 455 Posts
invinciblemuse: Hm, the "messy" person could say the same.

I´m currently living with someone, who believes six towels are needed in the kitchen, all for various tasks: one for glasses, one for hands, one for plates that have just come out of the dishwasher, one for cutlery, one for... actually, I don´t know. It´s driving me nuts!!! I´m making a huge effort to keep the existing order, but in return I don´t wanna get told off when I get it wrong.

What am I trying to say?? The tidy person is not right by default. Meeting in the middle and finding the right compromise is essential, and both sides have to walk towards the other and make an effort. Then it can work out.


Longer term you might find that the obsessions just get worse and make it unbearable to live with the person. My clutter ex had lots of ocds like this.
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Jan 20, 2011 5:47 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
time4fun4u: I would consider that a bit obsessive,and even i couldnt put up with that,and i am very tidy,in myself,and my home.


Well, and there we are - how do we define clutter, mess, tidiness, cleanliness for ourselves?? What looks tidy, pretty and cosy to one person, may be someone else´s horror.

I like chaos in my own designated space, but that doesn´t automatically make me a messy person. dunno
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Jan 20, 2011 5:48 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
iamwhoiamyousee
iamwhoiamyouseeiamwhoiamyouseeanywhere, Bavaria Germany18 Threads 2 Polls 962 Posts
doesn't a dust bunny deserve to livegrin tongue roll eyes
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Jan 20, 2011 5:49 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
invinciblemuse: Well, and there we are - how do we define clutter, mess, tidiness, cleanliness for ourselves?? What looks tidy, pretty and cosy to one person, may be someone else´s horror.

I like chaos in my own designated space, but that doesn´t automatically make me a messy person.
you are right.What some view as a mess,others dont.Some places have a lived in feeling,some are clinical.When all said and done,a mess is differant to dirty,and people make thier own choices.wine
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Jan 20, 2011 5:49 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
Cowhand
CowhandCowhandAssens, South Denmark Denmark2 Threads 369 Posts
invinciblemuse: They can, provided each has their own space to be tidy or to clutter as they wish, and as long as there is an agreement about all shared spaces.



Oh certainly they can....... I had a very good friend for many years... He liked his place messy, at least his Girlfriend said so.... Her place was so tidy ..... so when I visited them, I would not dare to sneeze..... (well, I was allowed to smoke there ... so a little humanity she showed)


But they lived together for more than 25 years....Had each their own places, he had a little house, she had a flat....

Whe she was at his place, she helped him keep in untidy - and when he was at her place, he helped her keep it tidy...


He told me often - that if 2 people their age,she was about 50 ... he some years older, come together and can live in harmony, it'll only work - long term.... If bouth keep their own places..... And sure I cannot agree more... It is at that point, too many make the mistake... Just think about why ????
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Jan 20, 2011 5:52 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
missingLondon
missingLondonmissingLondonMsida, Majjistral Malta101 Threads 11 Polls 455 Posts
Cowhand: Oh certainly they can....... I had a very good friend for many years... He liked his place messy, at least his Girlfriend said so.... Her place was so tidy ..... so when I visited them, I would not dare to sneeze..... (well, I was allowed to smoke there ... so a little humanity she showed)But they lived together for more than 25 years....Had each their own places, he had a little house, she had a flat....

Whe she was at his place, she helped him keep in untidy - and when he was at her place, he helped her keep it tidy...He told me often - that if 2 people their age,she was about 50 ... he some years older, come together and can live in harmony, it'll only work - long term.... If bouth keep their own places..... And sure I cannot agree more... It is at that point, too many make the mistake... Just think about why ????


i'm not surprised it worked if they lived separately. It's the sharing of space that creates conflict.
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Jan 20, 2011 5:54 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Its like nobody has ever lived with a teenager. rolling on the floor laughing

Yes, you can live in harmony, but the tidiest person does most, or all of the tidying. I exchange that for the messy person doing my accounts, my admin and anything I need done on the computer. laugh

Patience can work two ways... grin
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Jan 20, 2011 5:55 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
Amity
AmityAmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK49 Threads 6,217 Posts
Anyone with children will know its possible laugh
Im a neat freak myself.wave
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Jan 20, 2011 5:56 AM CST Can a tidy person and a clutterer live together in harmony?
kezza007
kezza007kezza007brisbane, Queensland Australia27 Threads 1 Polls 1,541 Posts
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I wouldn't think so...
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