Amish school shooting ( Archived) (37)

Oct 3, 2006 6:13 AM CST Amish school shooting
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
My heart goes out to the girl's that got killed in that shooting in PA.We are living in a sick world, God help up.
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Oct 3, 2006 6:19 AM CST Amish school shooting
froggydtoad
froggydtoadfroggydtoadpalmyra, Pennsylvania USA2 Threads 178 Posts
I am with you as well since I live pretty close to where that happened it was very shocking. I just can't immagine this happening in the amish village they are so unworldly with no electricity, no pleasures of what we take pleasure in they live such a simple life...that is what was thought to me to be the safest place in the world...just goes to prove with all the wackos in the world no place is ever completely safe. My thoughts and prayers are with thencrying
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Oct 3, 2006 6:19 AM CST Amish school shooting
Sweeet81
Sweeet81Sweeet81Lewiston, USA10 Threads 146 Posts
I agree. It's so sad.
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Oct 3, 2006 6:28 AM CST Amish school shooting
LonelyInBC31
LonelyInBC31LonelyInBC31Battle Creek, Michigan USA199 Threads 1 Polls 2,760 Posts
My thoughts are with them, ya know, I really was once one of those people who said..that wont happen here...but the reality is...it could..That is very scary.hug
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Oct 3, 2006 6:34 AM CST Amish school shooting
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
mine doesn't.

mine goes out to the people that are left behind...that have to pick up the pieces...to stare at an empty bed and grieve for a lifetime.
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Oct 3, 2006 6:37 AM CST Amish school shooting
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
I know it's new's but if they didn't report it I wounder if it would slow down.This is somthing new in america,the first one I remember is that guy who went up in the tower and started shooting,I think it was in the 70's.
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Oct 3, 2006 6:40 AM CST Amish school shooting
and how many parents here would react with hate????

i hate the crime but look at how these Amish people forgive...look at the peacefulness they have cultivated within themselves....


these are the people to look at . and cultivation is the word to remember.

dicipline is the basis of all freedom.....consider that !

not the possibility to carry handguns
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Oct 3, 2006 6:43 AM CST Amish school shooting
onesunnygurl
onesunnygurlonesunnygurlELLIOT LAKE, Ontario Canada13 Threads 272 Posts
How horrible!! I send my prayers to those who must remain behind and to those that have departedangel
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Oct 3, 2006 6:44 AM CST Amish school shooting
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
it's scary...i keep my wonderful and precious children away from guns...i control my home, where they go, and know where they are at almost every second...

but when they get to school, it's another world. literally.

i also wonder if things could have been different.

i hate guns. and no, it's NOT just the people behind them. had my little child picked up that hunk of metal...she could easily blow someone away, or herself, and never know the difference.

and tell me it's education all you want...but when you have a special child, they CAN'T just learn such. life is a toy.
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Oct 3, 2006 6:49 AM CST Amish school shooting
Mike1162
Mike1162Mike1162Over the Rainbow, Pennsylvania USA70 Threads 1,694 Posts
You are so right Alex.

How many and what kind of hateful reactions would this breed from "Law abiding citizens"

Dicipline at all levels
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Oct 3, 2006 8:24 AM CST Amish school shooting
Michaels
MichaelsMichaelsSt. Augustine, Florida USA1 Threads 21 Posts
Of the Countries that have banned weapons do any of them have a lower violent crime rate than they did before the ban?

Do they have a less violent crime rate than the United States which allows its citizens to own guns?
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Oct 3, 2006 8:34 AM CST Amish school shooting
Lillyofthevalley
LillyofthevalleyLillyofthevalleySt John's, Newfoundland Canada38 Threads 3,152 Posts
Well now that's a very good question. For the gun is merely the tool used to implement the intent. Removing the tool does not remove the intent. However the tool being as effective as it is does facilitate swift and thorough execution of intent. An execution that may not come to fruition if the person of intent had time to diffuse and think. A hell of a lot can happen in the heat of the moment with the right tool ( probably what happened when I hooked up with my exgrin )
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Oct 3, 2006 10:01 AM CST Amish school shooting
everrett
everretteverrettNew York, USA24 Posts
Knives can do about the similar damage almost as quickly, and are much harder to trace back to a criminal. I am not a fan of guns but I dont think that banning them is the solution. There should be much tougher regulation on how they are distributed.
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Oct 3, 2006 10:03 AM CST Amish school shooting
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
ah...and what a topic for your first post.

be welcome.
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Oct 3, 2006 10:03 AM CST Amish school shooting
Switzerland's gun crime rate is almost nil.

Good job too, all the men between 18-45 have their automatic rifles in their closet, and they cycle the streets with them on their back.
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Oct 3, 2006 10:14 AM CST Amish school shooting
Welcome to the forums.
Thanks for posting.

A gun is a weapon. Nothing more, nothing less. It can be used as a hammer, but then so can a 4 inch stilleto heel.

A knife (generally) will have another use, so will sticks, clubs, sickles, and the host of other "violent" objects.

we had an instance of this in the UK, where a guy called Michael Ryan literally shot up a small town called Hungerford in the south of the UK.

Armed with a Kalashnikov rifle and a Beretta pistol, Michael Ryan rampaged through the streets of Hungerford shooting 17 people

He was in a reputable gun club, and was a respected member of the community. No one really knows why he did it. Although he was recently unemployed, he had no history of depression.

He bought his guns off the internet.
They were delivered to the Republic of Ireland, and he collected them from there.

Regulating gun purchases will be almost impossible as the advent of the internet will allow cross country purchases to remain unchecked.

Even licensed gun owners are still killing people.

There is no real solution, as banning all guns would be untenable and impractical. You get rid of guns, and something would replace it.

It would be a nice idea, but reality is different. It will be left to this Amish-killer and Michael Ryan to prove that guns are dangerous.
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Oct 3, 2006 10:53 AM CST Amish school shooting
everrett
everretteverrettNew York, USA24 Posts
Thanks
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Oct 3, 2006 10:57 AM CST Amish school shooting
everrett
everretteverrettNew York, USA24 Posts
Bullets can be traced back to guns after they are fired. It would make sense to catalog the bullets fired from each gun prior to it being sold. If a bullet that matches that gun is later found you know where to start looking for the bad guy.

I just think there will always be people that do bad things. We just need to step up our ability to track them down.
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Oct 3, 2006 11:01 AM CST Amish school shooting
There have been several BRUTAL murders in the Amish community. Lots of inbreeding don'y ya know.

Guy gutted his wife and stacked her internal organs on her chest, in front of his kids. Thanks gawd he didn't have a hand gun....
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Oct 3, 2006 11:23 AM CST Amish school shooting
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
Back in the 1800s settlement of the western US kids carried guns to school.


No one shot up a school then.


It would have been a quick way to suicide.
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