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Feb 19, 2011 6:24 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
UN: Somali Pirates Capture 4 Americans
February 19, 2011
Associated Press

UNITED NATIONS -- Somalia's U.N. Mission said Friday that pirates hijacked a yacht carrying four U.S. citizens in the Indian Ocean off the Somali coast.

Omar Jamal, first secretary at the Somali mission, identified the yacht as the S/V Quest.

He said the mission is calling for the immediate release of the hostages and all other captives who are in the hands of the pirates.

Jamal said the hijacking raises "serious concern" as it follows the sentencing in New York on Thursday of a Somali pirate who kidnapped and brutalized the captain of a U.S.-flagged merchant ship off the coast of Africa in 2009. Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse was sentenced to 33 years in prison.

A website chronicling the voyage of a yacht named S/V Quest describes it as being the home of Jean and Scott Adam. The couple has been sailing around the world since December 2004, according to the website. "This is planned to be an eight or ten year voyage," it states.

The Adams run a Bible ministry, according to their website, and have been distributing Bibles to schools and churches in remote villages in areas including the Fiji Islands, Alaska, New Zealand, Central America and French Polynesia.

The couple are members of the Marina del Rey Yacht Club in Marina del Rey, California, according to the website. A woman who answered the phone there Friday night would not confirm that the couple are members and said the club could not release any information.

Earlier on Friday, The European Union's anti-piracy task force said it appeared that Somali pirates had hijacked a separate vessel, the Alfardous, and its eight crew members in the Gulf of Aden. The force said it had no more details about the vessel since it was seized Sunday.

Somalia hasn't had a functioning government since 1991, and piracy has flourished off its coast. The pirates earn multimillion dollar ransoms from the hijackings. They were holding 29 ships and roughly 660 hostages before the latest seizures.

Jamal said the mission again appeals to the international community to help curb the ever increasing acts of piracy.

Also Friday, Interpol said it will help seven African nations better fight piracy off the coast of Somalia.

The program is expected to cost $2.17 million (euro1.6 million), said Pierre Saint Hilaire, the assistant director of the Interpol's maritime piracy task force.
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Feb 19, 2011 6:35 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
Actractorguy: UN: Somali Pirates Capture 4 Americans
February 19, 2011
Associated Press

UNITED NATIONS -- Somalia's U.N. Mission said Friday that pirates hijacked a yacht carrying four U.S. citizens in the Indian Ocean off the Somali coast.

Omar Jamal, first secretary at the Somali mission, identified the yacht as the S/V Quest.

He said the mission is calling for the immediate release of the hostages and all other captives who are in the hands of the pirates.

Jamal said the hijacking raises "serious concern" as it follows the sentencing in New York on Thursday of a Somali pirate who kidnapped and brutalized the captain of a U.S.-flagged merchant ship off the coast of Africa in 2009. Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse was sentenced to 33 years in prison.

A website chronicling the voyage of a yacht named S/V Quest describes it as being the home of Jean and Scott Adam. The couple has been sailing around the world since December 2004, according to the website. "This is planned to be an eight or ten year voyage," it states.

The Adams run a Bible ministry, according to their website, and have been distributing Bibles to schools and churches in remote villages in areas including the Fiji Islands, Alaska, New Zealand, Central America and French Polynesia.

The couple are members of the Marina del Rey Yacht Club in Marina del Rey, California, according to the website. A woman who answered the phone there Friday night would not confirm that the couple are members and said the club could not release any information.

Earlier on Friday, The European Union's anti-piracy task force said it appeared that Somali pirates had hijacked a separate vessel, the Alfardous, and its eight crew members in the Gulf of Aden. The force said it had no more details about the vessel since it was seized Sunday.

Somalia hasn't had a functioning government since 1991, and piracy has flourished off its coast. The pirates earn multimillion dollar ransoms from the hijackings. They were holding 29 ships and roughly 660 hostages before the latest seizures.

Jamal said the mission again appeals to the international community to help curb the ever increasing acts of piracy.

Also Friday, Interpol said it will help seven African nations better fight piracy off the coast of Somalia.

The program is expected to cost $2.17 million (euro1.6 million), said Pierre Saint Hilaire, the assistant director of the Interpol's maritime piracy task force.


If no one paid ransom the first time out the problem would have ended then and there.

Unfortunately now the stakes have been upped. 660 hostages are one hell of a reason not to get rough with the pirates.

They are also the very best reason to get very, very rough with the pirates. Dumping a few bodies of pirates on the shore might be a wake up call to their brothers in crime.

The problem with that is that paying them in the past has trained them to believe they have some special right to do what they do. Undoubtedly hostages would pay the price of their retraining as well as many pirates.

How many innocents will lose their lives if the problem is not dealt with though?

Factoring the cost of anything is no fun but it is even less fun when one of the unavoidable costs is human lives.
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Feb 19, 2011 6:48 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
katt1017: If no one paid ransom the first time out the problem would have ended then and there.

Unfortunately now the stakes have been upped. 660 hostages are one hell of a reason not to get rough with the pirates.

They are also the very best reason to get very, very rough with the pirates. Dumping a few bodies of pirates on the shore might be a wake up call to their brothers in crime.

The problem with that is that paying them in the past has trained them to believe they have some special right to do what they do. Undoubtedly hostages would pay the price of their retraining as well as many pirates.

How many innocents will lose their lives if the problem is not dealt with though?

Factoring the cost of anything is no fun but it is even less fun when one of the unavoidable costs is human lives.




wave Hey Katt. I would post my opinion but most people would not like it. Hence the reason for asking others.
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Feb 19, 2011 6:59 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Actractorguy: Hey Katt. I would post my opinion but most people would not like it. Hence the reason for asking others.


Somolia should be given UN help to form a responsible government. If that fails the area should be given to the surrounding countries (Ethiopia and Kenya, Yemen, maybe a piece to Djibouti) and basically abolished as a free standing country.

In the mean time all ships that are not involved in commerce or fishing should be bottled up in port and/or mothballed until the owners prove they are not involved in pirating. Perhaps some sort of license process will help accomplish that.
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Feb 19, 2011 7:53 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
I am more worried about nations hijacking nations .
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Feb 19, 2011 8:21 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
Dreamyone
DreamyoneDreamyoneRaleigh, North Carolina USA4 Threads 1 Polls 913 Posts
Actractorguy: Hey Katt. I would post my opinion but most people would not like it. Hence the reason for asking others.

Ditto
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Feb 19, 2011 8:33 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
China has the answer my friends. They are using intelligent and trained Dolfins to fight the pirates...

China Reports Dolphins Foiled Pirate Attack - NYTimes.com

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Feb 19, 2011 9:51 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
bollywood: Somalian piaracy have started by a group of fishermen who formed a group to protect their waters from being a dump ground for western nations for dumping their toxic and industrial wastes . Its a fight for a good cause gone out of control. Somaila is a good lesson for all of us , If we encourage injustice its sure that one point of the time or other it will turn against us


I don't believe this was an issue of injustice, just a symptom of a country's governemnt falling apart and vigilantism which eventually turned into piracy. These people are pirates pure and simple. Any residual trace of vigilantiam or sense of purpose is long gone, replaced by greed.

Personally, I believe any hostile move by any pirate should result in their immediate termination. These are not illegal fishermen or toxic waste dumber they're praying on.
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Feb 19, 2011 10:12 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
jahzah
jahzahjahzahHappyfairygoblinland, Victoria Australia19 Threads 2 Polls 2,574 Posts
Pirates will always be one step ahead of you and your fake governments Arrrrgh! hijack
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Feb 19, 2011 10:22 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
johnaustin123
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Feb 19, 2011 10:31 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
jahzah
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Feb 19, 2011 10:40 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
Paldi5
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jahzah: Spammer


Lost piraterolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 19, 2011 10:43 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
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Feb 19, 2011 10:48 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
shafiqbaber22
shafiqbaber22shafiqbaber22Asian, Punjab Pakistan1 Threads 6 Posts
i agree your comments
Paldi5: Thanks
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Feb 19, 2011 10:48 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
shafiqbaber22
shafiqbaber22shafiqbaber22Asian, Punjab Pakistan1 Threads 6 Posts
where you from
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Feb 19, 2011 10:49 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
jahzah
jahzahjahzahHappyfairygoblinland, Victoria Australia19 Threads 2 Polls 2,574 Posts
Paldi5: Lost pirate


Pirates don't get lost, they are masters in navigation and using human stupidness to their advantage
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Feb 19, 2011 10:50 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Melbourne, Victoria Australia

I'm able to look down on you right now. Are you able to look down on me in Hawaii?

Be carefull when you call someone a scammer on CS.

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Feb 19, 2011 10:53 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
jahzah
jahzahjahzahHappyfairygoblinland, Victoria Australia19 Threads 2 Polls 2,574 Posts
johnaustin123: Melbourne, Victoria Australia

I'm able to look down on you right now. Are you able to look down on me in Hawaii?

Be carefull when you call someone a scammer on CS.



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Whatever big shot....

Maybe stop selling google spammerlaugh
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Feb 19, 2011 11:12 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
I'm an educated Journalist working on my Masters Degree. Big difference. I'm educated and you can only cook.

Call me a big shot again, it will be reported to CS.

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Feb 19, 2011 11:13 PM CST Pirates! What's your take? What should we do?
jahzah
jahzahjahzahHappyfairygoblinland, Victoria Australia19 Threads 2 Polls 2,574 Posts
johnaustin123: I'm an educated Journalist working on my Masters Degree. Big difference. I'm educated and you can only cook.

Call me a big shot again, it will be reported to CS.

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Whats wrong with being called a big shot?
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