Paldi5: Obviously all Jews absorbed in Israel are encouraged to settle there to boost the population and demographics and to give safety. The Jewish law of return is rather unique. They pay you money to come!
The Arabs were forced beyond the so called green line into Palistine occupied areas or other Arab states for the same reason, demographics, and were a burden in the places they wound up in. Not wanted as impoverished permanent residents - they wish to return to their homes or be compensated so they can set down new roots.
Thousands of Arabs refugees may be going to Egypt to get away from the violence in Libya. Hopefully their stay will be temporary in some sort of temporary tent camps and most will return home someday.
Using your logic Egypt should simply absorb them all, right?
If I were advising the president or prime minister of Israel, I would suggest he go on Al Jazeera this week and deliver this message to the people of the Middle East:
Dear Neighbors:
What is happening right now in our region is historic. You, the great people of the Middle East, are rewriting history. You are rising up and saying, "Enough! Enough with oppression, enough with humiliation. We want opportunity, freedom and human rights." Young and old, men and women, religious and secular, you have risen up as one and demanded a better future.
We, the people of Israel, want to be part of that better future.
It is not a coincidence that we are descendants of the same father, Abraham. Although we might be in conflict now, this was not always the case. We had our golden eras when we cooperated and respected each other like the biblical cousins that we are. We cherish to this day stories of the great Jewish and Muslim philosophers engaging each other in search of higher truths.
One of those higher truths is that we have so much in common as children of the same God and as members of the human race. We all want to laugh, provide for our families, lead meaningful lives, fall in love and be happy. Those are not Jewish or Muslim or Christian ideals -- they are human ones, and they can bring us together.
Think of how infinitely proud and happy our God would be to see His Muslim and Jewish children end their conflicts and live in harmony.
Yes, Israel has made its share of mistakes. The challenges we face have humbled us. In truth, it hasn't been easy to build a nation while constantly having to defend ourselves. Sometimes, this has brought out the worst in us and made us look like we care only about our own security. We deeply regret the displacement of so many people that occurred in 1948, when we had to defend ourselves against invading armies after the Arab rejection of U.N. Resolution 181, which partitioned the land for two states.
We're human. It does hurt to feel unwelcomed in a neighborhood we have called home for 3,000 years.
Very nice. The podium for the address should be the Arab League.
LILLYLADY: I'm tired of hearing about the poor Muslims, the Zionists and how bad the Jews are. The Muslims did quite well in these countries as compaired to their fellow Jews. The world has turned a blind eye to the Jews who have suffered under the Muslim rule. Long Live Israel and the Jews!!
Arutz Sheva Feb 25, 2011 article on Libya
Before Qaddafi took over, Libya had ancient synagogues, all of which are gone and some of which have become mosques. But the worst part, he said, is the ancient Jewish cemetery in Tripoli.
“There was a whole cemetery in Tripoli, 130 acres in size, on top of which buildings were constructed, complete with roads and everything," said Kachlon. "Qaddafi crushed all the graves and threw them into the sea. The world was silent. When they saw him doing it, nobody asked: ‘What is he doing to that cemetery? Why did he destroy the Jewish cemetery?’”
Algeria’s Jewish population can be traced back about 2,600 years, to when the First Temple was destroyed. After Algeria achieved independence from France in 1962, most of the country’s 130,000 Jews – who had long suffered from local anti-Semitism – emigrated to France. By the 1990’s, most of the remaining Jews had emigrated. In 1994, the rebel Armed Islamic Group declared war on all non-Muslims in the country. The Algiers synagogue was abandoned that year and later became a mosque. Slightly more than 200 Jews remain today in Algeria, mostly in Algiers.
BAHRAIN After World War II, riots were focused against the middle-class Jewish community. By 1948, most of Bahrain Jewry abandoned its properties and evacuated to Bombay, India and later to Israel and the United Kingdom. As of 2008, 37 Jews remained in the country; the issue of compensation was never settled.
EGYPT In 1956, the Egyptian government issued a proclamation stating that “all Jews are Zionists and enemies of the state” and threatened them with expulsion. As a result, half of Egypt’s 50,000 Jews left, and 1,000 were imprisoned. After the 1967 war, nearly all Egyptian Jewish men aged 17-60 were either thrown out of the country or incarcerated and tortured. Fewer than 100 Jews remain in Egypt today.
IRAN Jews in Iran, formerly known as Persia, date back 4,000 years. In 1948, the population numbered close to 150,000, and at the time of the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the number was 80,000. From then on, Jewish emigration increased dramatically. Estimates of today’s population range from 20,000 to 35,000. Iran's Jewish community, the largest among Muslim countries, is officially recognized as a religious minority group and as such is allocated one seat in the Iranian Parliament. Tehran has 11 functioning synagogues.
IRAQ Iraqi Jewry dates back at least 2,600 years, and numbered around 120,000 in 1948. Nearly all the Jews left because of persecution following Israel’s War of Independence, and today fewer than 100 Jews remain.
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Amidst the Arab demands for the restitution of Arab refugees from the 1948 war, it is largely forgotten that around that time, more than 870,000 Jews lived in the various Arab countries. In many cases, they were persecuted politically and physically, and their property was confiscated; some 600,000 Jews found refuge in the State of Israel. Their material claims for their lost assets have never been seriously considered.
Their time will come, hopefully, the matter is in "dispute". Unfortunately no one speaks loudly for them. Israel is perhaps too focused on Holocaust survivor compensation/rememberance and ignores these others or is not effective on their behalf, so it seems.
TrueBlue1986: So if you believe your own words how can any side be 'trustworthy'?
Impartial international observers including a special court system (with prisons) for holding trials and settling claims might be a good start. Might take a long time to sort it out.
Paldi5: Impartial international observers including a special court system (with prisons) for holding trials and settling claims might be a good start. Might take a long time to sort it out.
Resolution 181,Jews accepted,Arabs rejected! What is so difficult in understanding that?
Feb 25, 2011 10:06 AM CST Anti-Israelism/Judaism....,A "normal" state of thing´s....?
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 posts
Paldi5: Impartial international observers including a special court system (with prisons) for holding trials and settling claims might be a good start. Might take a long time to sort it out.
What human being(s) has the right to be the overseer of the world?
Wow_Factor: Hopefully you have read the post immediately previous to your one.
Gleneagle, you are sorely lacking in knowledge. I suggest you spend the weekend gaining some.
Ok I will re read Meisheimer and Walt on the Israel Lobby and US foreign policy. Hope that won't upset Conrad. You and he are two right little Dictators. Its either your way or no way!
gleneagle: Ok I will re read Meisheimer and Walt on the Israel Lobby and US foreign policy. Hope that won't upset Conrad. You and he are two right little Dictators. Its either your way or no way!
You sure love that Little Book of those shoddy Scholars,do you?
how did Isreal get ther country bykilling my uncle and other Brits through terroism open your mind if you like Isreal so much go live there or are you to scared of the Arabs
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The Arabs were forced beyond the so called green line into Palistine occupied areas or other Arab states for the same reason, demographics, and were a burden in the places they wound up in. Not wanted as impoverished permanent residents - they wish to return to their homes or be compensated so they can set down new roots.
Thousands of Arabs refugees may be going to Egypt to get away from the violence in Libya. Hopefully their stay will be temporary in some sort of temporary tent camps and most will return home someday.
Using your logic Egypt should simply absorb them all, right?