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Mar 7, 2011 11:25 AM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
Politics is a word with a wide variety of texture and context, but for the most part, politics is the art and/or struggle for control. Wherever you find two or more people, you will find politics because people live in communities and rely on each other for our success and there is no such thing as anarchy outside of a temporary vacuum in the seat of power after a revolution. It doesn't last long, though, because there is always a rush to fill a vacuum; any sort of vacuum, and that includes a vacuum of power.

At all levels of politics, the purpose of it is control and/or dominance. In a democracy/republic, politicians seek to control the hearts and minds of voters so that they can pursue a career of power, in which they will exert that power over the very people that elect them. In tyrannical states, politics is exerting direct control of the state and it's peoples, often through coercion and brute force. But no matter how you look at it, politics is about power, control and dominance.

People inclined to seek political office may have any number of motives for doing so, but ever "higher" office and ever "higher" levels of power and control seem to be the ultimate goal of most. And this fact is what makes the concept of "One World Government" a preposterous notion.

Which of the World's heads of state want to cede their power to some higher One World Order authority? Which of the overinflated egos running countries around the world want to be the lackey for some super-secret NWO illuminati mastermind type? Hint: None of them. In order for there to ever be a true "New World Order" in the form of one world government, there would have to be first a true World War and I don't mean in the loose sense such as WWI or WWII. No, I mean EVERY country would end up being involved and every country conquered and ONE dictator put in place with the world as his empire. And no one's going to sit for that, either.

Seriously, the nature of politics itself makes the concept of "One World Government" virtually impossible. The Romans gave it a go. The English gave it a go. Attempts to conquer and govern the world aren't new and they've always failed and always will fail just as surely as gravity keeps us from flying off into space as the Earth rotates. The nature of politics makes it impossible.
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Mar 7, 2011 11:54 AM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
gardenhackle: Politics is a word with a wide variety of texture and context, but for the most part, politics is the art and/or struggle for control. Wherever you find two or more people, you will find politics because people live in communities and rely on each other for our success and there is no such thing as anarchy outside of a temporary vacuum in the seat of power after a revolution. It doesn't last long, though, because there is always a rush to fill a vacuum; any sort of vacuum, and that includes a vacuum of power.

At all levels of politics, the purpose of it is control and/or dominance. In a democracy/republic, politicians seek to control the hearts and minds of voters so that they can pursue a career of power, in which they will exert that power over the very people that elect them. In tyrannical states, politics is exerting direct control of the state and it's peoples, often through coercion and brute force. But no matter how you look at it, politics is about power, control and dominance.

People inclined to seek political office may have any number of motives for doing so, but ever "higher" office and ever "higher" levels of power and control seem to be the ultimate goal of most. And this fact is what makes the concept of "One World Government" a preposterous notion.

Which of the World's heads of state want to cede their power to some higher One World Order authority? Which of the overinflated egos running countries around the world want to be the lackey for some super-secret NWO illuminati mastermind type? Hint: None of them. In order for there to ever be a true "New World Order" in the form of one world government, there would have to be first a true World War and I don't mean in the loose sense such as WWI or WWII. No, I mean EVERY country would end up being involved and every country conquered and ONE dictator put in place with the world as his empire. And no one's going to sit for that, either.

Seriously, the nature of politics itself makes the concept of "One World Government" virtually impossible. The Romans gave it a go. The English gave it a go. Attempts to conquer and govern the world aren't new and they've always failed and always will fail just as surely as gravity keeps us from flying off into space as the Earth rotates. The nature of politics makes it impossible.


If it can be national, it can be continental as long as they speak the same language.. Wait for North Africa to be one..
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Mar 7, 2011 11:58 AM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
Paldi5: If it can be national, it can be continental as long as they speak the same language.. Wait for North Africa to be one..


A united North Africa and One World Government are entirely different things and I'd even wager against all of North Africa uniting under a single umbrella of political control. I'm not even sure the EU is going to still be standing throughout my lifetime and it's a very loose association.
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Mar 7, 2011 12:07 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Paldi5: If it can be national, it can be continental as long as they speak the same language.. Wait for North Africa to be one..


It's not the same world as it was 40 years ago... both parties have blurred together and they are all being paid off .... so exactly WHO has the dominance now? Whoever has the least amount of conscience... which is of course why the power has been extending out of THIS continent for years.
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Mar 7, 2011 12:11 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
SCatlyn
SCatlynSCatlynBrecon, South Glamorgan, Wales UK5 Threads 2,166 Posts
gardenhackle: Politics is a word with a wide variety of texture and context, but for the most part, politics is the art and/or struggle for control. Wherever you find two or more people, you will find politics because people live in communities and rely on each other for our success and there is no such thing as anarchy outside of a temporary vacuum in the seat of power after a revolution. It doesn't last long, though, because there is always a rush to fill a vacuum; any sort of vacuum, and that includes a vacuum of power.

At all levels of politics, the purpose of it is control and/or dominance. In a democracy/republic, politicians seek to control the hearts and minds of voters so that they can pursue a career of power, in which they will exert that power over the very people that elect them. In tyrannical states, politics is exerting direct control of the state and it's peoples, often through coercion and brute force. But no matter how you look at it, politics is about power, control and dominance.

People inclined to seek political office may have any number of motives for doing so, but ever "higher" office and ever "higher" levels of power and control seem to be the ultimate goal of most. And this fact is what makes the concept of "One World Government" a preposterous notion.

Which of the World's heads of state want to cede their power to some higher One World Order authority? Which of the overinflated egos running countries around the world want to be the lackey for some super-secret NWO illuminati mastermind type? Hint: None of them. In order for there to ever be a true "New World Order" in the form of one world government, there would have to be first a true World War and I don't mean in the loose sense such as WWI or WWII. No, I mean EVERY country would end up being involved and every country conquered and ONE dictator put in place with the world as his empire. And no one's going to sit for that, either.

Seriously, the nature of politics itself makes the concept of "One World Government" virtually impossible. The Romans gave it a go. The English gave it a go. Attempts to conquer and govern the world aren't new and they've always failed and always will fail just as surely as gravity keeps us from flying off into space as the Earth rotates. The nature of politics makes it impossible.
Great thread & post thumbs up
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Mar 7, 2011 5:25 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
Paldi5: If it can be national, it can be continental as long as they speak the same language.. Wait for North Africa to be one..


Um...Paldi, exactly which North Africans speak the same language?
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Mar 7, 2011 5:26 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
amahlala: Um...Paldi, exactly which North Africans speak the same language?


"Scuse please..meant to say which North African countries speak the same language? blushing
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Mar 7, 2011 5:46 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
amahlala: "Scuse please..meant to say which North African countries speak the same language?
Right across North Africa they speak Arabic. Algeria,Morocco,Tunisia,Libya and Egypt.....Morocco has some Spanish and Algeria French this is a throwback to colonial times....grin cheers
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Mar 7, 2011 5:57 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
patmac: Right across North Africa they speak Arabic. Algeria,Morocco,Tunisia,Libya and Egypt.....Morocco has some Spanish and Algeria French this is a throwback to colonial times....


Thank you...handshake cheers
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Mar 7, 2011 7:03 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
patmac: Right across North Africa they speak Arabic. Algeria,Morocco,Tunisia,Libya and Egypt.....Morocco has some Spanish and Algeria French this is a throwback to colonial times....


Interesting popcorn
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Mar 7, 2011 7:11 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
amahlala: Um...Paldi, exactly which North Africans speak the same language?


Just about all of them and it extends through the Middle East as well. At one time it was a great expanse without national borders. I have a thread going about that. (Somewhere, not many have stopped in.)
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Mar 7, 2011 7:14 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Mar 7, 2011 7:15 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Colleene1024: Interesting


Lmao......Really wink grin cheers
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Mar 7, 2011 7:21 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
patmac: Lmao......Really


Well, I didn't know about the languages. You know how I love to learn new things. Once my internet gets turned off I will be living at the library! LOL laugh
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Mar 7, 2011 7:22 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
"the future, unsurprisingly, is with the youth, the very demographic that is taking the lead in battling corruption and autocracy and one that is communicating, encouraging and helping others across borders in the spirit and language of togetherness.

Sure, this does not by itself denote that borders are now irrelevant. What it does suggest, however, is that political and economic issues and opportunities cannot be dealt with simply within the confines of borders any longer. The pent-up frustrations of the Arab youth, the economic inequalities, the demands for better representation extend across the entire region. A single voice is emerging in search of a single value: Freedom."
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Mar 7, 2011 7:25 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Colleene1024: Well, I didn't know about the languages. You know how I love to learn new things. Once my internet gets turned off I will be living at the library! LOL
Are you losing it for a while????sigh

grin cheers
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Mar 7, 2011 7:37 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
patmac: Are you losing it for a while????



Yea I had to make a list of priorities and it was last on my list. I won't have it back till next month.crying
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Mar 7, 2011 7:52 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Colleene1024: Yea I had to make a list of priorities and it was last on my list. I won't have it back till next month.


Just made up and your going?conversing
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Mar 7, 2011 8:02 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Colleene1024
Colleene1024Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA10 Threads 1,225 Posts
Paldi5: Just made up and your going?



rolling on the floor laughing made up! I guess that's as good as it's ever gonna get! I still think your an a**hole hug tongue
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Mar 7, 2011 8:13 PM CST THE TRUE NATURE OF POLITICS (reality version)
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Colleene1024: made up! I guess that's as good as it's ever gonna get! I still think your an a**hole


Something we have in common. Though yours is larger in OD.grin
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