Anti American and Anti west ..2 (527)
SCatlyn: Had to google that French-lol "Such is life".
"What can we do?" I could speculate, but politics isn't really my thing/interest(though I'll sometimes argue over something I don't agree with.) I Never want to be a politician, even though I have a few small ideas that might have a little worth.
Thanks for your reply, though.
"What can we do?" I could speculate, but politics isn't really my thing/interest(though I'll sometimes argue over something I don't agree with.) I Never want to be a politician, even though I have a few small ideas that might have a little worth.
Thanks for your reply, though.
LOL...Yea the French to have a few sayings I rather like....or at least it sounds prettier in French...
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SCatlyn: It would depend on your location, as far as peoples' opinion around you is concerned. And who your friends were/are loyal to as far as their opinion. Near Baghdad & a few other places, you'd find a lot of loyalty to Saddam. Also, lots of misunderstanding in Baghdad after the bombs were dropped. People living there didn't realize part of the reason they suffered without electricity & water for so many days, had a lot more to do with the terrible shape S. left the infrastructure in. It took far more time to get things back up & running b/c of that. But the people had no way of knowing that - therefore they could only come to the conclusion it was "the invaders" fault.
Saddam ignored the citizens, infrastructure, etc., robbing his own country to invest in the interests closest to his heart - luxuries - such as multiple palaces, power - obtained by .... (won't go into it - I don't have time to reply back to all the rebuttals I'm sure would come up on that one), etc.
The above re: location, as well as misunderstandings, is a very small sample of what you'd find in many locations inside both Iraq & Afghanistan.
I'm not a fan of CNN, don't get BBC, in fact, haven't had cable television for several yrs. (I don't know where BBC articles are located, though I may have read some.)
Btw- there are quite a few Iraqi people here- esp. in Chicago, where there's also a large Bulgarian population.
I don't know about Afghan. populations, but it makes sense many would be in India, just as many Mexican people work here. The U.S. is a far greater distance to travel than India.
Saddam ignored the citizens, infrastructure, etc., robbing his own country to invest in the interests closest to his heart - luxuries - such as multiple palaces, power - obtained by .... (won't go into it - I don't have time to reply back to all the rebuttals I'm sure would come up on that one), etc.
The above re: location, as well as misunderstandings, is a very small sample of what you'd find in many locations inside both Iraq & Afghanistan.
I'm not a fan of CNN, don't get BBC, in fact, haven't had cable television for several yrs. (I don't know where BBC articles are located, though I may have read some.)
Btw- there are quite a few Iraqi people here- esp. in Chicago, where there's also a large Bulgarian population.
I don't know about Afghan. populations, but it makes sense many would be in India, just as many Mexican people work here. The U.S. is a far greater distance to travel than India.
Bombing Bagdad on civilian communities can be justified ? . yet they "wrongly blamed" the invaders ? Would you tolerate that act if someone bombs Washigton DC just because they want to catch the rat in the white house ?
What you know about Saddam is partly true and partly false. He had huge palaces and luxuries .so is every leader here . White house is not a hut..Obama is not traveled by 1940 cars . All enjoy luxuries at public expenses. Iraq had a good infrastructure, very secular under Saddam . Iraq had temples, churches and free to practice any religion . He was very kind to foreigners working there . he even gave personal meeting with them. But at the same time he was a strong autocrat . mercilessly oppressed people challenged him He considered them as the agent of western powers trying destabilize the country. But people who eliminated him resorted more crualities on the hapless people in Iraq.
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Colleene1024: Didn't he head al quida?
I have no clue to be honest.
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bollywood: I have no clue to be honest.
Well why not!
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Colleene1024: Well why not! You're supposed to know everything!
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bollywood: I am suppose to ..but I am not....
You know...at first, I used to think you were a jerk....but now, you're not so bad...
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bollywood: The recent invasion to Afghanistan is to chase down Osama Bin laden and topple the Taliban government there as it was a good excuse to be there forever The invaders thought they could buy out local people with their dirty money.
The actual demands of the taliban were;
1. Deliver to the U.S. all of the leaders of Al-Qaeda
2. Release all foreign nationals that have been "unjustly imprisoned"
3. Protect foreign journalists, diplomats, and aid workers
4. Close immediately every terrorist training camp
5. Hand over every terrorist and their supporters to appropriate authorities
6. Give the United States full access to terrorist training camps for inspection
bollywood not worked out .They wanted to change the culture and fabric of a nation over night. Making it more west friendly so that they can extract the advantages effectively. [/quote:
Y9ou have proof of this or is this simply your usual banter?
[quote=bollywoodNow they are looking for a honorable exit from there which is not in sight . The newly formed afghan security forces are just sitting ducks for seasoned rebels . The moment these occupied forces withdraw , they will pounce on them , killing many, killing common citizens .
Y9ou have proof of this or is this simply your usual banter?
[quote=bollywoodNow they are looking for a honorable exit from there which is not in sight . The newly formed afghan security forces are just sitting ducks for seasoned rebels . The moment these occupied forces withdraw , they will pounce on them , killing many, killing common citizens .
You have proof of this or is this just your normal banter?
[quote=bollywood You see that is happening in Iraq . See how many bombs went off recently and how many killed ?.Thats going to happen in Lybia too.
From what I understand iraq is almost ready to go it alone so once again, do you have proof of this or is this just your normal factless banter?
Oh, and perhaps you might tell us all what treasures India is raping Afghanistan over as they were in on it as well.
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bollywood: I worked in Iraq during Saddam and post Saddam . I have a lots of friend from all these countries .I been to Kabul many times as well. There are a lot of Afghanistanis working in India as well. But I dont read CNN and BBC articles on these wars.
I see. You went there to steal money off the Iraqi people.
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bollywood: Humanitarian reason in Afghanistan ? . An average Afghani love Taliban now because you are atrocities are more vicious . Afghanistan is a treasure box of minerals, and the gateway to the central Asian untapped oil reserves . A convenient military base against Iran /Russia/China and India . Humanitarian is the last word
Humanitarian was never the word of anybody save a side benefit. As for the atrocities being more viscous than the Taliban please provide some factual data to back up this falsehood please as you are quite famous for exaggerating and being wrong.
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Albertaghost: I see. You went there to steal money off the Iraqi people.
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Albertaghost: Humanitarian was never the word of anybody save a side benefit. As for the atrocities being more viscous than the Taliban please provide some factual data to back up this falsehood please as you are quite famous for exaggerating and being wrong.
Thanks for enlightening me what I am famous for here .
I pity your personal attakcs on me.. . You are good in digging links and solving the most complex political problems the world is meddling years . Who could be better than you to get "factula data" than you ? 
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bollywood: Bombing Bagdad on civilian communities can be justified ? . yet they "wrongly blamed" the invaders ? Would you tolerate that act if someone bombs Washigton DC just because they want to catch the rat in the white house ?
What you know about Saddam is partly true and partly false. He had huge palaces and luxuries .so is every leader here . White house is not a hut..Obama is not traveled by 1940 cars . All enjoy luxuries at public expenses. Iraq had a good infrastructure, very secular under Saddam . Iraq had temples, churches and free to practice any religion . He was very kind to foreigners working there . he even gave personal meeting with them. But at the same time he was a strong autocrat . mercilessly oppressed people challenged him He considered them as the agent of western powers trying destabilize the country. But people who eliminated him resorted more crualities on the hapless people in Iraq.
No, it absolutely did NOT have good infrastructure. I was an eyewitness to that. What you know about Saddam is partly true and partly false. He had huge palaces and luxuries .so is every leader here . White house is not a hut..Obama is not traveled by 1940 cars . All enjoy luxuries at public expenses. Iraq had a good infrastructure, very secular under Saddam . Iraq had temples, churches and free to practice any religion . He was very kind to foreigners working there . he even gave personal meeting with them. But at the same time he was a strong autocrat . mercilessly oppressed people challenged him He considered them as the agent of western powers trying destabilize the country. But people who eliminated him resorted more crualities on the hapless people in Iraq.
I'm not going to take the time to fully reply, but will tell you that the White House does not several huge palaces make. It's very tempting to blow away just about everything you said in the above quote, but I'll just end with "free to practice any religion" - you can't be serious(or you're seriously delusional). And the most ridiculous statement(imo) award goes to "mercilessly oppressed... considered them... agent of western powers" - the Kurds were agents of western powers???
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bollywood: referring all those and you still post the crap ?
Arre you now going to tell us all that the US demands of the Taliban were not;
1. Deliver to the U.S. all of the leaders of Al-Qaeda
2. Release all foreign nationals that have been "unjustly imprisoned"
3. Protect foreign journalists, diplomats, and aid workers
4. Close immediately every terrorist training camp
5. Hand over every terrorist and their supporters to appropriate authorities
6. Give the United States full access to terrorist training camps for inspection
If so, then what were they?
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Albertaghost: Humanitarian was never the word of anybody save a side benefit. As for the atrocities being more viscous than the Taliban please provide some factual data to back up this falsehood please as you are quite famous for exaggerating and being wrong.
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SCatlyn: No, it absolutely did NOT have good infrastructure. I was an eyewitness to that.
I'm not going to take the time to fully reply, but will tell you that the White House does not several huge palaces make. It's very tempting to blow away just about everything you said in the above quote, but I'll just end with "free to practice any religion" - you can't be serious(or you're seriously delusional). And the most ridiculous statement(imo) award goes to "mercilessly oppressed... considered them... agent of western powers" - the Kurds were agents of western powers???
I'm not going to take the time to fully reply, but will tell you that the White House does not several huge palaces make. It's very tempting to blow away just about everything you said in the above quote, but I'll just end with "free to practice any religion" - you can't be serious(or you're seriously delusional). And the most ridiculous statement(imo) award goes to "mercilessly oppressed... considered them... agent of western powers" - the Kurds were agents of western powers???
I guess instead of spending time to replay my posting .spend time on good reading on Iraq. unbiased. you will be more enlightened. I lived in Iraq and seen them . If I have to deny myself because you did not see with your naked eyes then I am in a dilemma .Saddam always considered all rebellions are prompted by the western forces . and incase you have any awards to give I reccomend Julian Assange for that .......
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bollywood: I guess instead of spending time to replay my posting .spend time on good reading on Iraq. unbiased. you will be more enlightened. I lived in Iraq and seen them . If I have to deny myself because you did not see with your naked eyes then I am in a dilemma .Saddam always considered all rebellions are prompted by the western forces . and incase you have any awards to give I reccomend Julian Assange for that .......
Seems that all you time in Iraq left you frickin' clueless as to what the reasons for the invasion were. You say it was all about oil yet can't seem to supply any proof of this.
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bollywood: I guess instead of spending time to replay my posting .spend time on good reading on Iraq. unbiased. you will be more enlightened. I lived in Iraq and seen them . If I have to deny myself because you did not see with your naked eyes then I am in a dilemma .Saddam always considered all rebellions are prompted by the western forces . and incase you have any awards to give I reccomend Julian Assange for that .......
Seems that all your time in Iraq left you frickin' clueless as to what the reasons for the invasion were as well as other idiocies such as how the re3ason for the US and Indian action against Afghanistan was for oil and to simply hunt for Osama Bin Laden. You say it was all about oil yet can't seem to supply any proof of this.
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Albertaghost: Seems that all you time in Iraq left you frickin' clueless as to what the reasons for the invasion were. You say it was all about oil yet can't seem to supply any proof of this.
I did not have any clue about invasion until I met you here in Connecting singles ....
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"What can we do?" I could speculate, but politics isn't really my thing/interest(though I'll sometimes argue over something I don't agree with.) I Never want to be a politician, even though I have a few small ideas that might have a little worth.
Thanks for your reply, though.