CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!! (57)

Apr 9, 2011 8:22 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
purplesmurf
purplesmurfpurplesmurfCarrick-on-Suir, Tipperary Ireland798 Posts
tallaght_guy: i have to laugh at the work section they assume you work a 9 to 5 job and in same location they dont take account a lot of people work nights or shift work and no fixed location


Where is there any assumption about time? As regards not working in a set location, as a rep or truck driver perhaps, I would presume that people who work in such jobs are not of a huge amount of use in statistical terms. The information which is gathered is to aid planning and can realistically only take patterns into account...
Apr 9, 2011 9:58 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
Envy51: At national level current population statistics are essential for planning the provision of health care, education, employment, etc. Regional figures are critical for determining regional policy and for the operation of regional authorities (e.g. Health Boards and of course the number of people using the #27 Bus). The greatest strength of the census is the provision of detailed population figures at local level. These help to identify likely demand for schools and health care facilities, areas of relatively high unemployment, the best location for new shops, etc. Article 16.2 of the Constitution (Bunreacht na hÉireann) lays down that the total membership of Dáil Eireann depends on the population as measured by the census (i.e. 1 TD per 20,000 to 30,000 persons). Constituency reviews normally take place once the definitive results of the census have been published.

The census is also the only means of accurately measuring the exact extent of migration. By comparing the results of successive censuses, and taking account of the number of births and deaths that have occurred over the same period, we get an accurate measure of net migration (the difference between inward and outward migration).As you say ......each to their own, well this is my country and i will fill it in.



thumbs up Thats very informative N and yes personally the 1911 census gave me information about my ancestors that i didnt no so i was grateful for that hug



vinny1967: Once an Irelander, always an Irelander

How's you A ?

I might make one of your breakfast meets soon


thumbs up Im great Vinny and yes still having breakfast, lunch and sometimes even dinner laugh
Apr 9, 2011 10:54 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
purplesmurf: Where is there any assumption about time? As regards not working in a set location, as a rep or truck driver perhaps, I would presume that people who work in such jobs are not of a huge amount of use in statistical terms. The information which is gathered is to aid planning and can realistically only take patterns into account...


i have to look at it again but as far as i remember it asks what time you leave for work with a multiple choice answer what about if you head to work about 6 pm and finish at 7 am
also asks whay way you travel to work walk bus luas bike car etc
all the above depends where im working and at what time
Apr 9, 2011 11:03 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
Well i think the Cenus is important i know it can be a pain in te hole for most people.I used the Cenus to trace back my family history and found it very helpfully it help me to trace back nearly over 300 hundred year on me mums side of the family starting from 1901.

I also used the English Cenus to find my Dad side of the family tree which gave me over 400 years of family history that i didnt even know about so i do think it important to fill them and hopefully one day maybe 100 years now my son childrn will be usein them to find out about me.
Apr 9, 2011 11:13 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
purplesmurf
purplesmurfpurplesmurfCarrick-on-Suir, Tipperary Ireland798 Posts
tallaght_guy: i have to look at it again but as far as i remember it asks what time you leave for work with a multiple choice answer what about if you head to work about 6 pm and finish at 7 am
also asks whay way you travel to work walk bus luas bike car etc
all the above depends where im working and at what time


As I said the people who work shifts etc, or work in different places like yourself are not much use for planning purposes. The questions are asked about the peak traffic times so that provision of infrastructure and services can be planned....
Apr 9, 2011 11:33 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
purplesmurf: Jaysus another one to report for filling it in early!! My bonus is on the way up!!

BITE MEtongue I decided I'd fill it in while I was sober and of sound mind ....no fit state tomorrwine
Apr 9, 2011 11:37 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
purplesmurf
purplesmurfpurplesmurfCarrick-on-Suir, Tipperary Ireland798 Posts
L1977C: BITE ME I decided I'd fill it in while I was sober and of sound mind ....no fit state tomorr


Oh yeah its party night tonight... I'll let ya away with it so. drinking
Apr 9, 2011 6:02 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
NOBLONDEHERE
NOBLONDEHERENOBLONDEHEREKildare, Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 996 Posts
Envy51: Census are very important to our future.....IMO ...... The census is the key stone to building an infrastructure to support future building of public buildings etc., and to documnent a history of ourselves for archival records for the generations to come. Hi A


doh I musta missed something do u seriously think the census influenced such things frustrated frustrated they havent used it to do anything since the last census

the government doesn't know what infrastructure is 15 yrs ago in Poland a country that is impoverished in many ways as we were 30 yrs ago however you could push a wheelchair on and off buses any where there u cant do that here in a lot of places despite the poverty they had infa-structure
they didnt need a a census to do that they have a more common sense approach



what has changed here confused we built and built and built and built and built oh and did I say built uh oh and the banks took the country to its knees from all the loans it made

was it the last census informed that confused sure wasnt there all sorts of people telling the government etc the bubble would burst and what did they do ........ oh they kept going and going and going and going oh and did I say uh oh going

and the bubble burst now how did that happen

if i thought for one moment that the census would help to improve this country id be knocking on everyones door to do it

it will tell us how many people are in the country NOT we already know some people wont fill them out tell lies disappear til its over

it will tell us how many children are due to start primary school next september
but will we get more teachers , smaller classrooms NOT

SHALL I GO ON
dunno
Apr 9, 2011 6:16 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
NOBLONDEHERE: I musta missed something do u seriously think the census influenced such things they havent used it to do anything since the last census

the government doesn't know what infrastructure is 15 yrs ago in Poland a country that is impoverished in many ways as we were 30 yrs ago however you could push a wheelchair on and off buses any where there u cant do that here in a lot of places despite the poverty they had infa-structure
they didnt need a a census to do that they have a more common sense approach
what has changed here we built and built and built and built and built oh and did I say built and the banks took the country to its knees from all the loans it made

was it the last census informed that sure wasnt there all sorts of people telling the government etc the bubble would burst and what did they do ........ oh they kept going and going and going and going oh and did I say going

and the bubble burst now how did that happen

if i thought for one moment that the census would help to improve this country id be knocking on everyones door to do it

it will tell us how many people are in the country NOT we already know some people wont fill them out tell lies disappear til its over

it will tell us how many children are due to start primary school next september
but will we get more teachers , smaller classrooms NOT

SHALL I GO ON


No................... but while you make a good point about our public transport and older public buildings not being wheelchair accessaible conversing all new buldings are wheelchair accessible. The money is not there to put into schools, hospitals etc., but how would we know how many new schools or teachers were needed without a census.......... dunno
Apr 9, 2011 6:50 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
NOBLONDEHERE
NOBLONDEHERENOBLONDEHEREKildare, Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 996 Posts
eh correct me if im wrong we had a census 10 yrs ago professor


we knew a lot more about the children who were attending and about to attend school and this was in the decade of the celtic tiger

so can you explain why 1 in four children are leaving the primary school system with a reading age of 7 and less

can you explain why when they know the number of disabled children including I might add children in the severe and profound range of disability ( the latter who i might add our wise and wonderful state only decided needed to be educated in the last 15 yrs)have less supports in classroom now and in the celtic tiger yrs were only beginning to redress the balance

this is not about money it is about lack of commitment to the children in our state

over 50% of our young teenager in the lower socio economic group are leaving school with out any educational achievement

and are even less likely to get employment and the cycle perpetuates itself

it doesn't matter if we know the figures it has no bearing on what how this state Acts

in 200 yrs time your great great grandchildren will be able to find u and where u live that is assuming the address is correct because if it is incorrect there is no faciltiy to change it


dunno just an observation

i wish what you were saying was true with all my heart heart wings

and I beg to differ with you about modern buildings being wheelchair accessible barriers to inclusion are still very prevalent nationwide you should sit in a wheelchair for a day and see where you can get in and out of modern or old bldgs alike it is better than it used to be but it has soem way to go to be perfect comfort
Apr 9, 2011 6:55 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
snowlynx
snowlynxsnowlynxgalway, Galway Ireland56 Threads 5,001 Posts
You're in flying form tonight A.!
Apr 9, 2011 7:23 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
wexlady41
wexlady41wexlady41Wexford, Ireland47 Threads 5 Polls 7,935 Posts
I really can't see why people have a problem with filling in a census form. People have done it in nearly ever country in the world for hundreds of years.

Whether it makes a difference to infrastructure, health or eduction is really only a "by the way" kind of thing.

At the end of the day it's a constitutional requirement.... and it's only a bit of form filling.

doh
Apr 10, 2011 5:25 AM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
NOBLONDEHERE: eh correct me if im wrong we had a census 10 yrs ago we knew a lot more about the children who were attending and about to attend school and this was in the decade of the celtic tiger

so can you explain why 1 in four children are leaving the primary school system with a reading age of 7 and less

can you explain why when they know the number of disabled children including I might add children in the severe and profound range of disability ( the latter who i might add our wise and wonderful state only decided needed to be educated in the last 15 yrs)have less supports in classroom now and in the celtic tiger yrs were only beginning to redress the balance

this is not about money it is about lack of commitment to the children in our state

over 50% of our young teenager in the lower socio economic group are leaving school with out any educational achievement

and are even less likely to get employment and the cycle perpetuates itself

it doesn't matter if we know the figures it has no bearing on what how this state Acts

in 200 yrs time your great great grandchildren will be able to find u and where u live that is assuming the address is correct because if it is incorrect there is no faciltiy to change it just an observation

i wish what you were saying was true with all my heart

and I beg to differ with you about modern buildings being wheelchair accessible barriers to inclusion are still very prevalent nationwide you should sit in a wheelchair for a day and see where you can get in and out of modern or old bldgs alike it is better than it used to be but it has soem way to go to be perfect


I hear what you are saying.......... but what relevence does it have to filling out a census form dunno As Wexie said "census are done the world over every ten years". In an ideal world we would be able to take the information that the census provides and act on it, but you can not build a house without bricks and mortar even with the finest set of plans or in the case of Ireland without money thumbs up

The standard of education levels today bears no relevence to the census whatsoever ...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you believe that the cutbacks that are in force across the board have nothing to do with money you are not living in the same Ireland as i am. ireland
The commitment to better the needs of people is there, but the means to do it is sadly not.sad flower
Apr 10, 2011 12:21 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
TwinkleStar_70
TwinkleStar_70TwinkleStar_70Near carloe, Carlow Ireland14 Threads 2 Polls 1,230 Posts
Done mine this morning
Apr 10, 2011 12:29 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
Cugglycorkonian
CugglycorkonianCugglycorkonianCork, Ireland17 Threads 3 Polls 239 Posts
Envy51: http://www.census.ie/_uploads/docume...amp_-_2011.pdf check out the third paragraph on the left hand side !!!!!!!

e=Sativa_Soul]It's mine aswell and I won't be try living within the law of your country then. You have a legal obligation to partake in the census.
If you think you are above the law then.......... no point in this conversation, as another poster said a 25K fine would and could speak louder than any words from the like of me can



Trust me Sativa has access to members who know about the census and how to go about the census in a manner that wont get her slapped with that fine.


Technically there are only four questions that you legally have to answer after that no court can fine you.
Apr 10, 2011 12:30 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
Cugglycorkonian
CugglycorkonianCugglycorkonianCork, Ireland17 Threads 3 Polls 239 Posts
THE CENTRAL STATISTICS OFFICE has criticised as “irresponsible” claims that a company it has contracted to help with the processing of Census 2011 provided interrogation services at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison.

CACI UK was awarded the contract by the CSO “for census printing and data capture services”, services it previously provided for the 2002 and 2006 censuses.

However, an online petition has been posted which urges the CSO to cancel its contract with CACI UK on the basis that its parent company, CACI International, “interrogated people detained without charge at Abu Ghraib”.

Full article:

CSO calls criticism of Census 2011 contractor “irresponsible” · TheJournal
Apr 10, 2011 12:35 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
Our new government want the info for the Final Solution !!!

devil devil



ireland
Apr 10, 2011 12:46 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
Even though I buried my wife in the basement !
Should I still mention her in the Census ??

blushing
Apr 10, 2011 12:48 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
Maybe they meant to call it Senseless Ireland 2011


professor

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 10, 2011 12:49 PM CST CENSUS IRELAND 2011 !!!!
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
Cugglycorkonian: Trust me Sativa has access to members who know about the census and how to go about the census in a manner that wont get her slapped with that fine. Technically there are only four questions that you legally have to answer after that no court can fine you.


She might pop on and enlighten those like herself who does not want to fill out their census forms how to break the law (or is it just a wee bending job she will be doing on it) without being caught !!!!!!!! roll eyes roll eyes
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