Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again! (69)

May 5, 2011 12:25 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
Envy51: I do not believe the the covert attack by Obama was staged. I believe the attack did take place. What i have doubts about is the way the attack was carried out, the press releases from the White House has changed too many times for my liking and there is more to this story than we are being told. I believe the reason that he will not sanction the release of pictures of the attack is because of the way the attack was carried out. It was an assassination and no different to the mass assassination of Tsar Nicholas11 and his family in 1918. Obama acted as judge and jury in the taking out of OBL but he did not do this without the help and support of senior goverment officals whom i doubt very much would all have gone along with the fairytale cooked up by Obama to boost his ratings ............... if they did all i can say is "God help America"

I think there is a bit of a difference in putting a bullet in Bin Ladens head which he fully deserved and shooting a woman and her kids dead which is what the Bolsheviks did to the Russian Royal Family.
May 5, 2011 12:50 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
jbomf
jbomfjbomf,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carlow Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 805 Posts
im not one for all these conspiracy theories, the only thing i don't understand is how he wasn't armed, it doesn't make any sense, which would make me wonder was he possibly unable to use a gun as he was sick
May 5, 2011 1:03 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
jbomf: im not one for all these conspiracy theories, the only thing i don't understand is how he wasn't armed, it doesn't make any sense, which would make me wonder was he possibly unable to use a gun as he was sick

His kidneys wernt working for years so id say he wasnt in great shape, i wondered myself why they shot him when he wasnt armed, only thing i can think of is maybe they thought he had a device attached. Plus when the Seals are called in they usually take out their target, most special forces do, dont recall the SAS taking many prisoners...
May 5, 2011 1:11 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
jbomf
jbomfjbomf,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carlow Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 805 Posts
GalwayGuy35: His kidneys wernt working for years so id say he wasnt in great shape, i wondered myself why they shot him when he wasnt armed, only thing i can think of is maybe they thought he had a device attached. Plus when the Seals are called in they usually take out their target, most special forces do, dont recall the SAS taking many prisoners...
yeah i kind of thought that myself, like you would imagine if he had been well he would have got off a shot or two
May 5, 2011 1:12 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
GalwayGuy35: His kidneys wernt working for years so id say he wasnt in great shape, i wondered myself why they shot him when he wasnt armed, only thing i can think of is maybe they thought he had a device attached. Plus when the Seals are called in they usually take out their target, most special forces do, dont recall the SAS taking many prisoners...



Your right Galway SAS don't take prisoners i think there a few years ago they gunned down three IRA terrorist I'm not sure exactly but i think it of been in Malta or Gibraltar i know there was massive trouble over it.
May 5, 2011 1:25 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
biggles90000: Your right Galway SAS don't take prisoners i think there a few years ago they gunned down three IRA terrorist I'm not sure exactly but i think it of been in Malta or Gibraltar i know there was massive trouble over it.



Yeah, Gibralter.
May 5, 2011 2:07 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
GalwayGuy35: I think there is a bit of a difference in putting a bullet in Bin Ladens head which he fully deserved and shooting a woman and her kids dead which is what the Bolsheviks did to the Russian Royal Family.


My reference to the killing of the Romanov family was the way the killing of OBL was carried out, not the reason for it !!!!!!!!!! OBL was bedridden and not armed as was first reported and for this reason the video evidence will never be shown to the world, it was an assassination of an unarmed man !!!!!!!!! I think that after a 10 year wait America could have taken OBL alive but Obama wanted instant glory.......!!!!!!! IMO....,OBL should have been taken alive and if he lived long enough, made to pay for his crimes............... but Obama acted as judge and jury.
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May 5, 2011 2:14 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Envy51: My reference to the killing of the Romanov family was the way the killing of OBL was carried out, not the reason for it !!!!!!!!!! OBL was bedridden and not armed as was first reported and for this reason the video evidence will never be shown to the world, it was an assassination of an unarmed man !!!!!!!!! I think that after a 10 year wait America could have taken OBL alive but Obama wanted instant glory.......!!!!!!! IMO....,OBL should have been taken alive and if he lived long enough, made to pay for his crimes............... but Obama acted as judge and jury.


I like your style N...cheers wave
May 5, 2011 2:30 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
May 5, 2011 2:30 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
sharmini: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egemc9c9w5A&feature=related

??wtf?



Pieczenik's pedigree: Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik is a former US Navy Captain who served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and a man who hunted terrorists for the US government all over the world.

Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT. Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world. Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.
May 5, 2011 2:56 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
biggles90000: Your right Galway SAS don't take prisoners i think there a few years ago they gunned down three IRA terrorist I'm not sure exactly but i think it of been in Malta or Gibraltar i know there was massive trouble over it.


That was 1988. It was Gibraltar. Mairead Farrell, Sean Savage and Dan McCann were the 3 Provos killed. At their funerals, Michael Stone went on a rampage. 2 Plain Clothes Brit soldiers were then beaten and killed during the resulting funeral. So yes massive trouble is one way of putting it.
May 5, 2011 2:57 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
scriobhneoir: That was 1988. It was Gibraltar. Mairead Farrell, Sean Savage and Dan McCann were the 3 Provos killed. At their funerals, Michael Stone went on a rampage. 2 Plain Clothes Brit soldiers were then beaten and killed during the resulting funeral. So yes massive trouble is one way of putting it.


I can rember watching that on the telly as a young lad.
May 5, 2011 3:00 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
scriobhneoir: That was 1988. It was Gibraltar. Mairead Farrell, Sean Savage and Dan McCann were the 3 Provos killed. At their funerals, Michael Stone went on a rampage. 2 Plain Clothes Brit soldiers were then beaten and killed during the resulting funeral. So yes massive trouble is one way of putting it.

Yeah i remember that funeral when it happened and they killed the soldiers. It was shown on the news the mourners trying to get at them in the car.
May 5, 2011 3:00 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
scriobhneoir: That was 1988. It was Gibraltar. Mairead Farrell, Sean Savage and Dan McCann were the 3 Provos killed. At their funerals, Michael Stone went on a rampage. 2 Plain Clothes Brit soldiers were then beaten and killed during the resulting funeral. So yes massive trouble is one way of putting it.

if ya plan to kill innocent people expect to suffer the wrath of the sasprofessor
May 5, 2011 3:01 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
GalwayGuy35: Yeah i remember that funeral when it happened and they killed the soldiers. It was shown on the news the mourners trying to get at them in the car.

that was one of the crazyest scenes ever
madness
May 5, 2011 3:02 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
GalwayGuy35: Yeah i remember that funeral when it happened and they killed the soldiers. It was shown on the news the mourners trying to get at them in the car.


Yea didnt the soldiers go down the wrong street or something and ran into a protest.
May 5, 2011 3:02 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
Envy51: My reference to the killing of the Romanov family was the way the killing of OBL was carried out, not the reason for it !!!!!!!!!! OBL was bedridden and not armed as was first reported and for this reason the video evidence will never be shown to the world, it was an assassination of an unarmed man !!!!!!!!! I think that after a 10 year wait America could have taken OBL alive but Obama wanted instant glory.......!!!!!!! IMO....,OBL should have been taken alive and if he lived long enough, made to pay for his crimes............... but Obama acted as judge and jury.

Fair pointthumbs up
May 5, 2011 3:04 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
Envy51: My reference to the killing of the Romanov family was the way the killing of OBL was carried out, not the reason for it !!!!!!!!!! OBL was bedridden and not armed as was first reported and for this reason the video evidence will never be shown to the world, it was an assassination of an unarmed man !!!!!!!!! I think that after a 10 year wait America could have taken OBL alive but Obama wanted instant glory.......!!!!!!! IMO....,OBL should have been taken alive and if he lived long enough, made to pay for his crimes............... but Obama acted as judge and jury.

america is at war
ya dont take prisoners in a war
May 5, 2011 3:06 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
chancer_mcgancer
chancer_mcgancerchancer_mcgancerdublin, Dublin Ireland168 Threads 27 Polls 4,219 Posts
america are the most scared nation in the world

ya cant live yer life in fear i tell yaidea
May 5, 2011 3:26 PM CST Osama Bin Laden Is Dead -Again!
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
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