Egypt reopens Rafah Border crossing (204)
Albertaghost: So what?
You make it so so easy though!
Sure you're working. You post on an internet forum as a job?
So says you.
When in doubt, insult!
Looks like he is trying to go out with a Bang,just like his Mentor!You make it so so easy though!
Sure you're working. You post on an internet forum as a job?
So says you.
When in doubt, insult!
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sharmini: http://www.amnestyusa.org/pdf/gazareport2011.pdf
"Dashed hopes"
"Dashed hopes"
Got no further than the first mistake. How can a blockade be illegal when the country being blockaded is at war with the one blockading it?
Blockades are a common part of warfare as seen by recent history in Iraq, Germany and japan during WWII. Hamas has declared war on Israel and still attacks her vowing to destroy her so, why would anyone feel they should be exempted from a normal defense measure such as a blockade?
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pity you didnt read on to page 4....in answer to your question...the International red Cross have confirmed that the blockade constitutes a collective punishment of the entire civilian population of gaza and is in clear violation of international humanitarian law....
" The closure is having a devastating impact on the 1.5 million people living in Gaza " , said Béatrice Mégevand-Roggo, the ICRC's head of operations for the Middle East. " That is why we are urging Israel to put an end to this closure and call upon all those who have an influence on the situation, including Hamas, to do their utmost to help Gaza's civilian population. Israel's right to deal with its legitimate security concerns must be balanced against the Palestinians'right to live normal, dignified lives. "
The international community has to do its part to ensure that repeated appeals by States and international organizations to lift the closure are finally heeded.
Under interna tional humanitarian law, Israel must ensure that the basic needs of Gazans, including adequate health care, are met. The Palestinian authorities, for their part, must do everything within their power to provide proper health care, supply electricity and maintain infrastructure for Gaza's people.
Furthermore, all States have an obligation to allow and facilitate rapid and unimpeded passage of all relief consignments, equipment and personnel.
" The closure is having a devastating impact on the 1.5 million people living in Gaza " , said Béatrice Mégevand-Roggo, the ICRC's head of operations for the Middle East. " That is why we are urging Israel to put an end to this closure and call upon all those who have an influence on the situation, including Hamas, to do their utmost to help Gaza's civilian population. Israel's right to deal with its legitimate security concerns must be balanced against the Palestinians'right to live normal, dignified lives. "
The international community has to do its part to ensure that repeated appeals by States and international organizations to lift the closure are finally heeded.
Under interna tional humanitarian law, Israel must ensure that the basic needs of Gazans, including adequate health care, are met. The Palestinian authorities, for their part, must do everything within their power to provide proper health care, supply electricity and maintain infrastructure for Gaza's people.
Furthermore, all States have an obligation to allow and facilitate rapid and unimpeded passage of all relief consignments, equipment and personnel.
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Wow_Factor: Here is your One-Stae solution Paldi!
for patmac:
modern version:
"many a true word is spoken in jest"
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sharmini: pity you didnt read on to page 4....in answer to your question...
"the International red Cross have confirmed that the blockade constitutes a collective punishment of the entire civilian population of gaza and is in clear violation of international humanitarian law...."
The International red Cross is not a legal court. Pity that they can determine nothing and, in this case, state their opinion rather than make determinations of legal consequence.
if the rest of your article is similar in mistaken hyperbole as this initial statement then it is crap.
Nations at war are permitted to defend themselves be it by violence or blockade.
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sharmini:
Under interna tional humanitarian law, Israel must ensure that the basic needs of Gazans, including adequate health care, are met. The Palestinian authorities, for their part, must do everything within their power to provide proper health care, supply electricity and maintain infrastructure for Gaza's people.
Furthermore, all States have an obligation to allow and facilitate rapid and unimpeded passage of all relief consignments, equipment and personnel.
Under interna tional humanitarian law, Israel must ensure that the basic needs of Gazans, including adequate health care, are met. The Palestinian authorities, for their part, must do everything within their power to provide proper health care, supply electricity and maintain infrastructure for Gaza's people.
Furthermore, all States have an obligation to allow and facilitate rapid and unimpeded passage of all relief consignments, equipment and personnel.
Whatever. The population increase in the territories far outstrips those in most western states with a life expectancy pretty much on par with same so this humanitarian argument is as false as the legal one above.
A foot note is that if more supplies were to be permitted with unrestrained borders the life expectancy would actually go down as well as a population decrease simply because Israel would be forced to unrestrain their military to stop the obvious attacks that would certainly occur with the use of modern and more effective weapons.
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Albertaghost:
Strange how they gave back land when a peace treaty was signed with Egypt isn't it. No amount of evidence would satisfy you.
And you were wrong again, and, as usual.
Strange how they gave back land when a peace treaty was signed with Egypt isn't it. No amount of evidence would satisfy you.
And you were wrong again, and, as usual.
Ya think? Look a little deeper and you'll find the US forced Israel to givew back the Siani in exchange for the massive resupply of amunition they needed to defeat the Egyptians.
Talk about revisionist history. You guys take the cake.
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Albertaghost: Whatever. The population increase in the territories far outstrips those in most western states with a life expectancy pretty much on par with same so this humanitarian argument is as false as the legal one above.
A foot note is that if more supplies were to be permitted with unrestrained borders the life expectancy would actually go down as well as a population decrease simply because Israel would be forced to unrestrain their military to stop the obvious attacks that would certainly occur with the use of modern and more effective weapons.
A foot note is that if more supplies were to be permitted with unrestrained borders the life expectancy would actually go down as well as a population decrease simply because Israel would be forced to unrestrain their military to stop the obvious attacks that would certainly occur with the use of modern and more effective weapons.
You wish.
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Paldi5: Ya think? Look a little deeper and you'll find the US forced Israel to givew back the Siani in exchange for the massive resupply of amunition they needed to defeat the Egyptians.
Actually I was at the first meeting between Egyptian and Israeli military leaders at El Tasa to discuss how they would carve up the Sinai to ensure a orderly retreat and that was 1979 six years after the 'massive resupply of amunition they needed to defeat the Egyptians' occurred.
Paldi5: Talk about revisionist history. You guys take the cake.
No offense but Paldi, you need help in more ways than just inability to post anything factual or historical research.
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Paldi5: You wish.
Yes, I do wish you had an argument so things would be a two way learning phase here on these forums when you are around.
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According to the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, 12 June 1994, a blockade is a legal method of warfare at sea, but is governed by rules.
The blockading nation must publish a list of contraband. The manual describes what can never be contraband. Outside this list, the blockading nation is free to select anything as contraband.
The blockading nation typically establish a blockaded area of water, but any ship can be inspected as soon as it is established that it is attempting to break the blockade.
This inspection can occur inside the blockaded area or in international waters, but never inside the territorial waters of a neutral nation.
A neutral ship must obey a request to stop for inspection from the blockading nation. If the situation so demands, the blockading nation can request that the ship divert to a known place or harbour for inspection. If the ship does not stop, then the ship is subject to capture. If people aboard the ship are resisting capture, they can be attacked. It is still not allowed to sink the ship, unless provision is made for rescueing the crew.
Leaving the crew in liferafts / lifeboats does not constitue rescue. If a neutral ship is captured, any member of the crew, resisting capture can be treated as prisoners-of-war, while the remainder of the crew should be released. A neutral nation may choose to send a convoy accompanied by warships. The warship can provide guarantees that the convoy does not contain contraband. in which case, the blockading nation does not have any right of inspection.
The blockading nation must publish a list of contraband. The manual describes what can never be contraband. Outside this list, the blockading nation is free to select anything as contraband.
The blockading nation typically establish a blockaded area of water, but any ship can be inspected as soon as it is established that it is attempting to break the blockade.
This inspection can occur inside the blockaded area or in international waters, but never inside the territorial waters of a neutral nation.
A neutral ship must obey a request to stop for inspection from the blockading nation. If the situation so demands, the blockading nation can request that the ship divert to a known place or harbour for inspection. If the ship does not stop, then the ship is subject to capture. If people aboard the ship are resisting capture, they can be attacked. It is still not allowed to sink the ship, unless provision is made for rescueing the crew.
Leaving the crew in liferafts / lifeboats does not constitue rescue. If a neutral ship is captured, any member of the crew, resisting capture can be treated as prisoners-of-war, while the remainder of the crew should be released. A neutral nation may choose to send a convoy accompanied by warships. The warship can provide guarantees that the convoy does not contain contraband. in which case, the blockading nation does not have any right of inspection.
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Conrad73: According to the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, 12 June 1994, a blockade is a legal method of warfare at sea, but is governed by rules.
The blockading nation must publish a list of contraband. The manual describes what can never be contraband. Outside this list, the blockading nation is free to select anything as contraband.
The blockading nation typically establish a blockaded area of water, but any ship can be inspected as soon as it is established that it is attempting to break the blockade.
This inspection can occur inside the blockaded area or in international waters, but never inside the territorial waters of a neutral nation.
A neutral ship must obey a request to stop for inspection from the blockading nation. If the situation so demands, the blockading nation can request that the ship divert to a known place or harbour for inspection. If the ship does not stop, then the ship is subject to capture. If people aboard the ship are resisting capture, they can be attacked. It is still not allowed to sink the ship, unless provision is made for rescueing the crew.
Leaving the crew in liferafts / lifeboats does not constitue rescue. If a neutral ship is captured, any member of the crew, resisting capture can be treated as prisoners-of-war, while the remainder of the crew should be released. A neutral nation may choose to send a convoy accompanied by warships. The warship can provide guarantees that the convoy does not contain contraband. in which case, the blockading nation does not have any right of inspection.
The blockading nation must publish a list of contraband. The manual describes what can never be contraband. Outside this list, the blockading nation is free to select anything as contraband.
The blockading nation typically establish a blockaded area of water, but any ship can be inspected as soon as it is established that it is attempting to break the blockade.
This inspection can occur inside the blockaded area or in international waters, but never inside the territorial waters of a neutral nation.
A neutral ship must obey a request to stop for inspection from the blockading nation. If the situation so demands, the blockading nation can request that the ship divert to a known place or harbour for inspection. If the ship does not stop, then the ship is subject to capture. If people aboard the ship are resisting capture, they can be attacked. It is still not allowed to sink the ship, unless provision is made for rescueing the crew.
Leaving the crew in liferafts / lifeboats does not constitue rescue. If a neutral ship is captured, any member of the crew, resisting capture can be treated as prisoners-of-war, while the remainder of the crew should be released. A neutral nation may choose to send a convoy accompanied by warships. The warship can provide guarantees that the convoy does not contain contraband. in which case, the blockading nation does not have any right of inspection.
Gaza–Jericho Agreement (Annex I, Article XI) which vests Israel with the responsibility for security along the coastline and the Sea of Gaza. The agreement stipulates that Israel may take any measures necessary against vessels suspected of being used for terrorist activities or for smuggling arms, ammunition, drugs, goods, or for any other illegal activity.
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Paldi5: Ya think? Look a little deeper and you'll find the US forced Israel to givew back the Siani in exchange for the massive resupply of amunition they needed to defeat the Egyptians.
Talk about revisionist history. You guys take the cake.
Hijacked another Thread,Paldi?Talk about revisionist history. You guys take the cake.
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Conrad73: Gaza–Jericho Agreement (Annex I, Article XI) which vests Israel with the responsibility for security along the coastline and the Sea of Gaza. The agreement stipulates that Israel may take any measures necessary against vessels suspected of being used for terrorist activities or for smuggling arms, ammunition, drugs, goods, or for any other illegal activity.
Sure... you "suspect" everything and it's all illegal. Your "methods" include murdering fishermen, sinking their tiny little boats because they stray past your arbitrary 2 mile limit, etc.
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Conrad73: Hijacked another Thread,Paldi?
Since when is responding to a question considered a hijack?
Pathetic. Why do I even bother talking to you idiots.
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Albertaghost: Yes, I do wish you had an argument so things would be a two way learning phase here on these forums when you are around.
That's OK dear, go back to talking to yourself. I don't have any desire to learn the crap propaganda you and your friends dredge up from Israel's oft-provided politically drafted rejoinder points. They don't work.
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sharmini: pity you didnt read on to page 4....in answer to your question...the International red Cross have confirmed that the blockade constitutes a collective punishment of the entire civilian population of gaza and is in clear violation of international humanitarian law....http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/update/palestine-update-140610.htm" The closure is having a devastating impact on the 1.5 million people living in Gaza " , said Béatrice Mégevand-Roggo, the ICRC's head of operations for the Middle East. " That is why we are urging Israel to put an end to this closure and call upon all those who have an influence on the situation, including Hamas, to do their utmost to help Gaza's civilian population. Israel's right to deal with its legitimate security concerns must be balanced against the Palestinians'right to live normal, dignified lives. "
The international community has to do its part to ensure that repeated appeals by States and international organizations to lift the closure are finally heeded.
Under interna tional humanitarian law, Israel must ensure that the basic needs of Gazans, including adequate health care, are met. The Palestinian authorities, for their part, must do everything within their power to provide proper health care, supply electricity and maintain infrastructure for Gaza's people.
Furthermore, all States have an obligation to allow and facilitate rapid and unimpeded passage of all relief consignments, equipment and personnel.
The international community has to do its part to ensure that repeated appeals by States and international organizations to lift the closure are finally heeded.
Under interna tional humanitarian law, Israel must ensure that the basic needs of Gazans, including adequate health care, are met. The Palestinian authorities, for their part, must do everything within their power to provide proper health care, supply electricity and maintain infrastructure for Gaza's people.
Furthermore, all States have an obligation to allow and facilitate rapid and unimpeded passage of all relief consignments, equipment and personnel.
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Albertaghost: Actually I was at the first meeting between Egyptian and Israeli military leaders at El Tasa to discuss how they would carve up the Sinai to ensure a orderly retreat and that was 1979 six years after the 'massive resupply of amunition they needed to defeat the Egyptians' occurred.
No offense but Paldi, you need help in more ways than just inability to post anything factual or historical research.
No offense but Paldi, you need help in more ways than just inability to post anything factual or historical research.
Everybody needs help. The whole world numerically speaking doesn't care. Good for you.
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So what?
You make it so so easy though!
Sure you're working. You post on an internet forum as a job?
So says you.
When in doubt, insult!